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US developing plan to bomb Iran, report says
Reuters and Ali Waked
Published: 25.02.07, 10:08
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31. IRANIAN..............................#21
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (02.25.07)
I am afraid that while I sumpathise with you as an individual,I very much doubt the attitude of majority of the Iranians.I have seen with my own eyes.It is not possible for the Govt. of Iran to tackle issues beyond their capacity but if they were to cow down at the juncture the USA is trying to put them in, Iran will never achieve progress.USA has been at war with Iran since the Great Revolution in 1979.Iran has had to face the threats to either concede to what the USA wants and becomes its puppet or remain steadfast,vigilant and be prepared to sacrifice.And this sacrifice comes from the masses to which you belong(if you are telling us the truth).Whilst no atempt is being made to endorse all the policies of the present Govt of Iran,if you were to look at it very closely, there is very little choice that Iran remains with.
32. Bomb it, don't bomb it, bomb it, don't bomb it...
Lednah ,   Europe   (02.25.07)
It became a soap opera. Obviously IT WILL BE BOMBED. Only mullahs don't understand it. They think with the help of diplomacy and the russians will succeed to cheat everyone. Wrong (and suicidal) beliefs. Partly due to the support of the russians which as usually are trying to double-cross everyone.
33. Ynet Think Iran will Get Scare
1.5 Billion Muslims   (02.25.07)
if they keep writting all this non sense articles............. OOP I Am Scare I Can't Give Up. Reality Check. World
34. #21 GOOD FOR YOU! POOR OLD MAHMOOD'S HAVING A 'MELTDOWN'!!!
Scott   (02.25.07)
Even if you are not Iranian, I couldnt care less - what you say is spot on. ..and its hilarious to see the reaction you get when you claim to be someone who actually lives under the tyranny that Mahmood and co. so desperately want us to believe is "pious" and full of virtue. HA! Great stuff - please contribute more!
35. #28 LOOMING IRANIAN WAR WILL BE UNPRECEDENTED
Scott   (02.25.07)
Big talk wont save Iran when things get underway. Nor will its "surprises" There just wont be enough of them to make a difference. Iran will be crippled from one end of the country to the other. To hell with civilian casualties and other horrifics. It will be a humanitarian castrophe of enormous dimensions. The encounter will be decisive - Iran will not get back up again. Save Iran's innocents - Oust the Monkey.
36. 30 your opinion is not important,France is the old europe
Mohamed ,   Arabia   (02.25.07)
jajajajajajajajaja america said it.
37. USA is dreaming if they think that Iran do nothing in war
Jack ,   France   (02.25.07)
38. MELTDOWN? YOU ARE CRAZY,SCOTT#34
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (02.25.07)
Dont worry,Scott, he will contribute more for the likes of you.It does not affect me at all.Pious people are protected by the Almight,Scott.
39. SCOTT.....THE DREAMER..........#35
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (02.25.07)
No worries,Scott.I wont go beyond saying that they need few people like you in the frontline,that is if you have heard the sound of a bomb falling.May be, your presence will boost those who have kept options on the table and the option itself is gathering dust.
40. Sy Hersh & His Sources
Brooklyn Steve ,   Brooklyn, NY USA   (02.25.07)
The Kapo Sy Hersh makes his articles out of whole cloth. He trumpets CIA assesments that agree with him while ridiculing previous CIA intelligence that doesn't agree with his blatantly political agenda. This is a man that likes to be invited to all the right cocktail parties and will sell his own people and country down the drain to do so. A sampling of Hersh's "sources": ......citing unnamed current and former US officials........ current senior intelligence officials.......A senior member of the House Appropriations Committee.......The former senior intelligence official.....The Pentagon consultant.....other intelligence professionals.........A senior diplomat in Vienna.......... No one can take anything he writes as journalism, and certainly not as scholarship,
41. #9 Arabian wolf.....
DeAnna ,   USA   (02.25.07)
gimme a break.....you really think irans air capabilities are more advance than Israel.....boy you really are brainwashed.....throw the USA in the equation and all this is a big joke. Even the people in the USA have no idea about some of our own capabilities and trust me the ones we do know of compared to Irans make their air force look like a circus. Best of luck to ya....but i think you are in for a very rude awakening.
42. #12, Iranian - The US and Israel will be
Allan ,   US   (02.25.07)
happy to help you with your struggle to overthrow the mullahtocracy you're suffering under. However, the Iranian people MUST initiate the change from within. If you start a counter-revolution based on democratic values you WILL be supported. Don't look to the US and Israel to do the fighting for you. This is your fight and we will help you win it.
43. #41 DeAnna is Right!
Brooklyn Steve ,   Brooklyn, NY USA   (02.25.07)
For all intents and purposes the Iranian Air Force has ceased to exist as a credible fighting force. From Global Security: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/airforce.htm "20 F-14A Tomcats of the 79 initially delivered were airworthy. Another 30 F-4s, 30 F-5s and 35 F-14s have been cannibalized for spare parts. One report suggested that the IRIAF can get no more than seven F-14s airborne at any one time." Please bear in mind that the F-4 & F-5's are both early 1960's technology. The leadership of Iran's military is slowly being killed off in air crashes and in a move towards self preservation has started to travel about the country in automobiles. The embargo has stopped the flow of spare parts & they do not have the ability to fashion the tools and dies to make their own.
44. On weapons
Damir ,   Russia   (02.25.07)
Those in Pentagon just earn their salary drawing and redrawing plans, schemes and projects. Good for them. First, the F-16 on the photo is in IDF/AF camo and should be called 'Barak' on Israeli YNet. Second. Iran did NOT get S-300. Russia is not stupid (or greedy enough). Instead they got S-125 which IS old, but a serbian officer DID manage brought down an F-117 with it... Well it is up to Iranians what they can achieve with it. Third. Buying F-14 was Shah's eccentric move. No one over the world owns them except USA. Guess where are all the spares to get? Fourth. MiGs might get better treatment. Somewhere there must be a batch of Iraqi's who defected before US invasion. Russia might have nothing to do with it, Ukraine and Byelorussia also do overhauls on MiGs. BTW Israel too produces upgrade kits for european MiGs.
45. I'm Sure There Are Contingency Plans To Bomb Canada
David ,   Marietta USA   (02.25.07)
Which probably wouldn't be a bad thing; we could take over their oil supply (they are America's major supplier, after all), with nary a shot being fired by the pacifists. But be that as it may, the Pentagon draws up plans to invade everyone and everything. That doesn't mean the plans are either carried out, or are overwhelming sucesses when they are (i.e. our stunning victory in Iraq) As for Seymour Hirsh, well, this is the guy who wrote the "Samson Option" about the development of the Israeli nuclear weapon. I don't think anyone believe anything Hirsh writes, except perhaps the New York Times, and maybe Al Gore. This is the guy who says Israel tested the weapon co-developed with South Africa in an open air test (during a thunderstorm, no less) over the Indian Ocean, has a triad defense system composed of aircraft, subs, and nuclear siloes outside of Jerusalem, opened those siloes during the early days of the first Iraq war so the Russians could take a peak inside, launched an airborne nuclear attack against Iraq, which was recalled, and has missiles pointed at Russian targets, the locations of which Jonathan Pollard is supposed to have proved the Israelis and got him a life sentence in an American jail. Personally, I hope all of what Hirsh has written is true. In reality, I take it with a grain of salt. Just as I take the potential threat of an American attack on Iran. The Iranians have the upper hand in this deal, and we have a seditious liberal Congress that is hell bent on preventing these actions. Remember, Purim is coming.
46. #27- Wissam the arab settler from occupied east of Jerusalem
Uzziel   (02.25.07)
You know why your five top reasons doesn´t bother the Israeli people? Because you´re the ones who run away ahead of the IDF. Always. You can fool the rest of the world to safeguard your "honour", but you can´t fool the people in an Israeli talkback... To Ynet: if you publish such talkbacks like wissam´s , don´t censure the answer.
47. #41 "big joke"
joell ,   atlanta usa   (02.25.07)
hizulllah was suppose to be a 'big joke" last summer. iran equals hizbullah times 1000
48. Read my talkback again.....
DeAnna ,   USA   (02.25.07)
I said throw USA in there and it is all a big joke. I am talking about our air force capabilities. And also israels campared to irans.
49. read #17
Josh ,   van canada   (02.25.07)
I wasn't aware that Israel was so involved with the F-35, but I did understand what are development and air capabilities were and are. Dan is correct. Israel's airforce is pound for pound INCREDIBLE and the BEST trained. Old systems will not take them down easily. Further, someone mentioned that Israel had problems with Hizbullah last summer and that we would be fighting several of them. Yeah, maybe Israel had a hard time in public opinion (not even in the actual outcome, they won that). Just see what happens if Israel ever feels that its National security is ever truly at stake. Just see how they attack then. Cause they threw nothing at Hizbuallah last summer.
50. #48
joell ,   atlanta usa   (02.25.07)
you're focusing on the "capabilities" of U,S/Israel; i'm focusing on their results against Afghanistan,Iraq & Hizbullah last summer. "paper tigers"
51. Attacking Iran
Bob The Texan ,   Boonies in Texas   (02.25.07)
It is foolish to think you folks will have a clue if and when the hammer comes down on Iran. And Iran won't know it until the B2's are long gone and the bunker busters are exploding. Iran has a make believe army, no air force and a navy that isn't. All they can do is photo ops.
52. Hizbullah got Wacked, the Experts Agree
Stevie "Two-Shoes" ,   Marlboro,NJ   (02.25.07)
From Mark Helprin: "To the Iranian de facto declaration to Israel, the Arabs, and the West that it possesses a belligerent outpost on the Mediterranean, Israel has weathered world condemnation to reply that the rent for this outpost is high and can be made higher. When Iran spoke to Israel in the language of war, Israel spoke back with absolute clarity even if not with the mythical brilliance attributed to it by friend and foe alike. Which is not to say that it is incapable of fighting the stunning existential battles that once it fought. For it is indeed capable of them, and they are yet to come." -Mark Helprin, who holds degrees from Harvard and Harvard’s Center for Middle Eastern Studies. He is a senior fellow of the Claremont Institute. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/10/the_war_in_lebanon.html From Edward Luttwack: "Hizbullah..... did hold its ground, but its mediocrity is revealed by the casualties it inflicted, which were very few.When an IDF company attacked the mountain town of Bint Jbail, losing 8 men in one night, that number was perceived in Israel - and broadcast around the world - as a disastrous loss.Many a surviving veteran of the 1943-1945 Italian campaign must have been amazed by this reaction. Hizbullah on the whole did not fight as fiercely as the Egyptians in 1973 or the Jordanians in 1967 - as Israeli casualty figures demonstrate." -Edward N. Luttwak is a Senior Fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1154525911992
53. #39 You have fond memories of old Iran
Lina ,   USA   (02.25.07)
When was the last time you visited Iran? The Iranian posting here obviously has more up todate information on present day Iran than you. Your fond memories block the seedy side of the Islamic Regime and the realities of life in Iran. Kidnappings, torture, paranoia, unemployment, poor economy, corruption and a budget that is like an out of control train. That's what the Regime is all about. No doubt the Iranian people will celebrate when the Islamic Regime falls so they can be liberated. By the way, what stops you from returning to your beloved Iran?
54. Then why talkback 2 me #48
DeAnna ,   USA   (02.25.07)
I will be the first to say there definatly was mistakes made in Iraq, and afghanistan. Human rights and being politically correct is the problem. We should have stayed just as strong as we were in the beginning of this mess and seen it through to the end. Maybe if they werent so scared of harming the mosques things wouldnt have turned out the way they are. The terrorist and insurgents or whatever and whoever sure dont seem to mind where they attack.whom they kill and I dont think the USA should be so careful either. It will not be the same in Iran. Cut and dry.take out the nuclear facilities.....problem solved. Defend against retaliation. We are not trying to lead them to live civilized. Not trying to protect them from a civil war.
55. to #1 from Israel
Mladen Andrijasevic ,   Beer Sheva   (02.25.07)
Taken from: Raid on the Sun by Rodger Claire p 239 Like the ambassador before him, Irvy had take up his post in the large corner office of the embassy. Here he had spent much of the past week packing up his personal belongings, including his beloved collection of models of Israeli fighter planes, and various mementos and honors of his ambassadorship. Cherished among these was the framed, enlarged print of a postcard he had hung on his office wall., across from his mahagony desk , where he could se it whenever he looked up. For the general, who had been surprised and stung by the criticism of the Osirak mission hurled at the time by Secretaries Haig and Weinberger and Ambassador Kirkpatrick, the missive had a special meaning. The homemade postcard was actually a blowup of a satellite photograph (ironically, KH-11 spy satellite) of al-Tuwaitha taken from space in the days of the Israeli attack in 1981. Outlined by a huge rectangle of twenty-foot-high concrete walls and barbed wire was, unmistakably, the bombed-out crater of an immense dome, its once-shiny aluminum cupola crumpled, the concrete crumbling. It was all that remained of Osirak after the Israelis were through with it . Handwritten at the bottom of the photograph was a short note, penned a week after the coalition’s successful invasion of Iraq in 1991. It read : “With thanks and appreciation. You made out job easier in Desert Storm.” It was signed: “Dick Cheney.”
56. Uzziel
Menahem ,   paris   (02.25.07)
excellent and true answer to wissam-kol ha kavod
57. #27 Top reason why Israel will attack
Lina ,   USA   (02.25.07)
1. Survival As for you Wissam, better get with the program. Do you really think Ahmadinejad cares about the Palestinians or Israeli Arabs? Iranians get offended when you refer to them as Arabs. Why do you think Arab countries will be opening up their airways for Israel? They recognize the threat posed to the entire ME by Ahmadinejad.
58. No doubt the neo-cons are working overtime.
Persian CAT   (02.25.07)
But there are other reports, such as: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1434540.ece
59. The only experience Israeli pilots have
Persian CAT   (02.25.07)
had lateley is to fly their F-16s to bomb defenseless Palestinians fefugees in their camps located literrally at the end of Isaeli base runwasy, or fly at high altitude over Lebanon, which has not air force. In short the Israeli pilots are in for a rude awakening if they attempt to attack Iran. I am waiting for full-hour show of rows of shotdown and captured Isreali pilots on Iranian TV denouncing their stupid governmnet's actions and beg for mecy. Israel has not fought anyone who has been able to fight back. Oops I almost forgot the recent Israeli "victories" over the Hezb in Lebanon, how forgeful of me!
60. OOPS i meant #50
DeAnna ,   USA   (02.25.07)
geez, sitting here talking back to myself.lol
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