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'Israelites didn't build the pyramids'
Smadar Perry
Published: 27.02.07, 09:32
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31. chinese built it
moshe sapurkar ,   cochin & India   (02.27.07)
When i was there in egypt in my last vacation, i saw a stone etched with "made in china" seal... so i guess like all other things they make, the chinese built it and shipped it to Giza. :D
32. "No archeological evidence" you dont think they would have
Jew ,   Israel   (02.27.07)
destroyed all evidence that Hebrews built or that the Almighty of the Hebrews defeated them and crushed them. You think they will commemorate their defeats or that their slaves should take credit. They would have destroyed all logs and all evidence that Hebrews existed in that land and worked and built their sites. Over time, many cultures have sought and have successfully destroyed logs of certain periods in their history. The Chinese did it as well. Ask yourselves this, who would ever want to give slaves or even worse Hebrews credit for their mammoth sites?
33. # 8 Tarek
Rachel ,   Birmingham   (02.27.07)
We are taken by the Jew thing???? It is you, you idiot and your faild society that is keep talking and getting obsessed with the Jews. How many more programs are you going to produce about the zionist consiracy, who control the world, who control the media etc etc. Just leave us alone to llive our lives in peace anywhere in the world and you live your faild lives acording to your standard. Interesting that the Greeks of today are the decendents of the Greek empire adn so are the Italians and the Roman empire and the Persian and the Jews, each are the living people of the old civilizations, only the Egyptians - according to you - have been killed and disappeard and you, the barbarians took over. Now you start to understand how you become so prevalent throughut the land, you take over a place, kill the original inhabitance, build a mosq and call it your own. No wonder we don't have true Egyptians today.
34. WHAT DOES THIS DO T THE MOVIE 'TEN COMMANDMENTS''?
SO MANY PROBLEMS NOW ,   ..............DACON9   (02.27.07)
THAT GREAT CECIL B. DeMILLE MOVIE WITH CHARLESTON HESTON & YUL BRYNNER. DOES THAT MAKE THE MOVIE A FRAUD? DO WE STOP WATCHING IT? WILL PEACE NOW' OBJECT TO SEEING IT? EVERY PASSOVER THEY SHOW IT ON AMERICAN TV, SHOULD I WATCH IT AGAIN? SHOULD THE REFORM JEWS BE CALLED IN TO REWRITE THE ANCIENT TORAH SCROLLS THAT WAS WRITTEN SHORTLY AFTER LEAVING EGYPT? WERE JEWS EVER IN EGYTP? DO JEWS NOW HAVE TO PAY DOUBLE ADMISSION TO TOUR THE PYRAMIDS? WAS IT REALLLY MOHAMED AT MT. SINAII BURNING THE BUSH HIMSELF FOR THE MOVIE? IS IT TRUE THAT THE ARABS BUILT THE WESTERN WALL KNOW AS THE 'KOTEL' OR 'WAILING' WALL? IS IT TRUE THAT JEWS NEVER EVER EXISTED AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY FROM ANOTHER PLANET? I TRUST EVERYTHING THESE ARABS SAY, THEY ARE A NOBLE AND PEACEFUL PEOPLE. WHEN THEY BLOW THEMSELFS UP FOR A SYMBOLIC ACT OF PROTESTING THEIR FROM THE PEOPLE THAT NEVER EXISTED, SHOULD I APOLOGIZE TO THEIR FAMILY AND GIVE THEM MY HOME AND 100 MILLION DOLLARS? SHOULD OLMERT AND BUSH CALL THE ARABS TO GIVE *MORE WEAPONS TO USE AGAINST A NON EXISTANT PEOPLE KNOWN AS ''JEWS''. IS MADONNA THE REAL MESSIAH?
35. Israelites didnt build the pyramids
Mick ,   Warrington   (02.27.07)
Whoever built them do you think they could have been commisioned to build the new Wembley? It's taken as long!
36. it's better for Israelis to build trust with their neighbors
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37. #34 No, Dana International Is
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38. can you try again, I enjoyed the movie but not the talkback
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39. did ancient Jews invented the whole story,
observer   (02.27.07)
so that they could take tons of Egyptians' gold as exchange for the pyramids, put in "disguise of mortgage", as they claimed the pyramids were theirs !. This was less than 24 hours before they fled away with the gold during the first exodus, in a "unilateral maneuver". So, bring back the gold and take back "only" your lies. Forget to say that the Egyptians discovered that the Jews were only in Egypt about 1000 years after the last pyramid was completely built. Eyewitnesses and "informers" said; they were not built using slave labor at all. Those workers who enthusiastically built the pyramids "as a national project of pride" had dark skin, but we know that some contemporary Jews only have that dark in their hearts.
40. Egyptian antiquities deneying Israelites built pyraminds
VALERIE knowles ,   Sandy Valley NV USA   (02.27.07)
This is how Islam tries to erase Israelite history... they are doing it at the Temple Mount also.... errasing history
41. #40
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http://uktv.co.uk/index.cfm/uktv/History.item/aid/573265 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/pyramid/explore/builders.html http://travel.syl.com/uncoverthemysteriesofbreathtakingpyramidsofegypt.html
42. The Shepard Kings
David Joseph ,   Orlando, FL   (03.01.07)
Isa 19:19-20 "At that time there will be an altar for the LORD in the middle of Egypt and a monument to the LORD at the border of Egypt. 20 This will be a sign and a witness to the LORD All-Powerful in the land of Egypt. When the people cry to the LORD for help, he will send someone to save and defend them. He will rescue them from those who hurt them."
43. Ptom and Ramses
Gordon Shifman ,   Shoham, Israel   (03.01.07)
Anyone who has ever read the Passover Hagaddah properly, knows that the Hebrew slaves built Ptom and Ramses - "granary cities", which were built for tax collection purposes. No mention has ever been made of pyramids.
44. Let's be accurate
Gordon Shifman ,   Shoham, Israel   (03.01.07)
For some reason, my previous posting on same was ignored. Our own sources (as in the Haggadah) state that the Hebrew slaves built Ptom and Ramses, two cities designated for tax collection purposes. No mention of the pyramids!
45. 'Israelites didn't build the pyramids'
Krissy ,   Baltimore, Md   (03.01.07)
I have nothing against Jewish people, but it is a fact that they did not build the pyramids. This should have been put to rest when the graves of the workmen were found right near Giza. The Egyptians believed their pharohs were Gods and so working for them on their tombs would have been a labor of love. I am sure the ancient Egyptians who were a part of the undertaking were full of nothing but pride.
46. Lets clear things up..
some guy ,   some where   (03.02.07)
Archaeologists have found sea shells and other evidence at the top compartment or space in the great Pyramid, so they speculate it was there before the flood. Also the math, wisdom and science beyond the time of the Pharaohs is evident. "The Great Pyramid was God's Absolute that would preserve a great wealth of knowledge for the generations born after the Flood. For instance, the constant pi, which more than a thousand years after the Flood the Egyptians did not know." "None of the later pyramids reveal such perfection of mathematical and architectural skills as The Great Pyramid."-source http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/great.htm Also There is a belief that Enoch directed Angels to build the great Pyramid as an altar to the LORD. Also the early Hebrews that Owned Egypt before they were enslaved were the HYCSOS; some believe these were Abraham and Isaac. What I believe to be true is the LORD built the Great Pyramid as an altar and a sign to his people with Angels of the LORD and maybe Enoch. The Egyptians were formed by nomadic people from Ethiopia and Canaan and took over the great Pyramid and area surrounding. Desecrating the great pyramid and enslaving the people it was made for. So the LORD had Joseph end up there. Then eventually the Egyptians enslaved the Hebrews. They were forced to build replicas of the great pyramid to the Egyptians false deities. The LORD rose up a man named Moses and led the Israelites out of Egypt. The Star of David looks like two pyramids one being upside down; forming a star. Coincidently the Great Pyramid aligns with stars and one could make a safe assumption one of those stars is David’s. Jeremiah 32:20, " You have set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, to this day, and in Israel and among other men; and You have made Yourself a name, as it is this day.."
47. No 46
Gwil Dawe ,   Cardiff, Wales   (03.02.07)
If you believe that christian mythology then you are a fool of the highest order. Slaves were not involved in the building of the pyramids, niether were the jews or your so called god.
48. No 47 Then I'm a fool that fears the LORD.
some guy some where ,   some where   (03.02.07)
49. Antisemitism
Patricius ,   Rome, IT   (03.05.07)
In reply to "22. Egyptian Antisemitism" - this is not an example, nor are the other issues you cited, of anti-semitism. Arabs are a mix of mostly semitic tribes and Muhammod himself was semitic. Anti-semitism is (or at least rationally should mean) discrimination against semites, not Jews. Maybe this is anti-Jewish, but it certainly is not anti-semitic.
50. Ridiculous IN DEED
Krissy ,   Baltimore, Md USA   (03.06.07)
You know, I thought I'd seen it all... But I was wrong... this is insane.. I dont understand where some of you people are coming from.. the Egptians built the pyramids it's just that simple...TOMBS!! that's all they are.. wonderous and glorious a ture mastery of what the human spirit can do.. they are what is left to us of one of the greatest civilizations in the history of mankind. A labor of love to a king whom they believed to be divine.. How much more can you read into it??
51. Pyramids... egyptians/israelis
Marc ,   paris   (12.01.07)
grow up #32..after 60 years in this region u still believe in conspirancy n evidence destroyed... try 2 go over it!!
52. No Jews did not build Pyramids and yes Copts are ancestors
Coptic Egyptian ,   Cairo Egypt   (03.19.08)
Just so we are clear, Jews could not ahve possibly contributed to the earliest pyramids simply bc they were not in Egypt yet!! The first pyramids predate to the 4th dynasty while the Jews or Hebrews or Israilites(however they can be reffered too) did not show up till 12th dynasty. In addition, yes Egypt is full of Muslims who have conquered and taken over Egypt, so no they did not have anything to do with the Pharoahs but the minority of EGypt(Coptic People) are direct decendents of the Pharoahs! These people, who still maintain their culture and traditions until today are the true Egyptians who did Engineer and Build the pyramids. And although Jews did help later on they were the labor inclusive force that helped they did not construct or engineer the pyramids!!
53. The answer is not black or White
rabbirock ,   Fairfield, CT USA   (06.16.08)
Folks: try some of these sites for a more indeth investigation of the subject; as always you will find that the answer is not black or white, nuanced. BTW. LIke Ross Parot said: "All I know is that the Arabs have the money (read oil) and the Jews have the management skills, and if you put them together it equals prosperity for the planet" {a paraphrase of what I remember him saying during Bill Clinton's bid for re-election, back in the days that the Pharoahs roamed the earth. Did anybody ever consider the idea that if the Jews and the Arabs ever formed an EU styled political entity that they'd be the super power.... did anybody ever consider that the peace process is really about the current powers of the world {USA, EU, China, and Russia} making sure this never happens. Hello Jews and Arabs, time to wake up and smell the conspiracy,,, time to more then make Peace, time to go into the business together. Don't think for a minute I am kidding. rabbirock
54. WHY IS EVERYONE SO BUTT-BURNED?
zozo ,   LA, USA   (11.27.08)
I don't see why everyone leaving a comment is so touchy. For all you and I know, we don't know(!!!) for sure who did what. It's basically speculation after speculation, I think personal comments stated as being FACT are vry misleading because so many beleive what they read. Evidence and DNA testings are more reliable than someone saying I think this was the case because I'm a bit prejudice towards this group of people for example. Another thing is that, Islam is a religion not a race! so many people left strange messages about the current Egyptians not being descendents of the ancient ones because they're Muslim now!!! lol that is the funniest thing I've ever heard. IFor one thing have you studied about all the make-up the used to wear? The only thing that is a clue to what they really looked like is their skin color. And why are you so touchy about who the ancient Egyptians really were? Are you trying to claim them or something? Islam is not a race but a religion that at some time period dominated the country and like a certain percentage of the people converted. Arabs aren't of a single race either let alone Muslims!! I'm half Iranian half American and I know for a fact that before Islam spread through the Iran, about 1000 years ago or so that the Iranian or Persian people were still very much persian blood wise, but belonged to all kinds of different religions. Just as today many persians are still persian blood wise and culturally but are Jewish or Christian or Muslim. Why is it so important? Plus I never knew for a fact if the ancient pyramid builders were Jewish or Egyptian and I still don't know, they could have been both, so I'm not going to make any definite assertions. Although I read in a class that there is evidence that Egyptian farmers built the pyramids and got paid in bread and beer for it. I just think it's possible they didn't build i even if they did, being it was a pre-Judaism event, and IF they may have been slaves, then they were forced to. Who's holding anything against them? Who's being disrespectful towards them? I think we're all on the deffensive a bit too much. For all we know they had nothing to do with the pyramids. What's the big fuss? And to that one person who commented on the Palestinians...you shouldn't attack people like that especially when that group of people are oppressed by people as we speak and are in the state everyone knows they are and ignored.
55. It takes Egyptians to do it
Adel ,   Egypt/Sweden   (03.29.09)
Egyptians Built the pyramids. These are the grandparents of most of the muslim population living in Egypt now. However, we are not proud of many of our grandparents such as the pharaoh or his soldiers mentioned in the Quran. When Amr-Ibn-Il-As came to Egypt from Arabia and took over power from the Romans, the indigenous population welcomed him, simply because they were prosecuted and ground down by the Romans. Many of the Egyptians then converted to Islam. It's not like all muslims in Egypt are descendants of the ancient egyptians, but most of them are. Mainly those who have tanned skin, and they constitute the majority of Egyptians. They do look like Pharaohs, just look at the picture of Ramses or King Tut and pay a visit to Egypt! Jews wouldn't have built the pyramids in Giza, it takes egyptians to do it.
56. the real builders
youssef ,   egypt   (05.01.09)
not many of you may believe me but i think that neither the pharoes nor the jews built them ..... various stories about muslims and from a saying from our messenger (prophet) humans existed hundreds of thousands years ago and the first human was about 40 meters tall and 4.2 meters wide (just like the body they found in india) and creation are shrinking gradually after him so i believe some culture at that period had enough man power to build the pyramids and especially the Aad civilisation (it's a civilisation mentioned only in the Qur'an) as they worshipped a group of stars that had the same order of size as the pyramids and if you try to day the pharoes or jews built them then ask yourselves how ?? they didn't have technology or any possible way to build it but the giants i talked about earlier had enough man power to build them and till now two bodies of 12 meters have been found in egypt
57. pyramids
Mustalaf ,   USA   (09.21.09)
The simple fact is that whoever built the Pyramids in what is now Egypt were gone without a trace long before current history was ever written. It's also glaringly obvious that they were anything but tombs. Don't assume that because you don't know their purpose that no one else does either (the sophomore curse.) When technology grows to the point of extracting information from "inanimate" objects (as it will) the truth will come out, and it will almost certainly be something to do with the activation of a certain awesome force now dormant in the human spirit (nothing to do with "religion".)
58. Egyptians are semites, Israelis aren't,we built the pyramids
Hazem Gamal ,   Egypt   (10.22.09)
1st of all we are Semites as u are not more than half of people living in occupied land of Palestine aka (israil) are not original owners, they immigrated mostly from Russia, Poland, Yemen, & northern Africa, so you are not Semites... 2nd Pyramids were built by Egyptians, how would nomads like Israelite or Jews have the knowledge to build such buildings no further discussion
59. We are real Egyptians, & We are great builders
Hazem Gamal ,   Egypt   (10.22.09)
Rachel, When Islamic invaders came to Coptic Egypt, Egypt was still great fully inhabited by Egyptians, all that arab di was just make their own cities in the desert.. Muslim Egypt happened because, Egyptians converted.... On the contrary in Israel, The majority which occupied Palestine in 1948, were more than 70 % from Russia, Poland, Northern Africa, & Yemen.. and read history About the building part Come to Egypt & see Islamic Architecture, in mosques & citadels look up Saladin Citadel, & The Egyptian Engineer Badr Al-Gamaly & look up the High Dam in Aswan, one of the greatest buildings in the 20th century... Read 1st before you write
60. No. 17
Hazem Gamal ,   Egypt   (10.22.09)
Stole not took like we beaten you in world cup :P
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