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Tartman: People commit suicide over these things
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Published: 28.02.07, 14:40
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1. "Things are being distorted"!?
Michael Steiner   (02.28.07)
Does this tart HAVE a Master's and Bachelor's degrees or not? She said she had both of them on several occasions. Where's the distortion?? It's good to see justice getting served. What goes around comes around. Some Russian parvenue wants to strip people born and bred in Israel of their citizenship. Heh, "poetic justice" comes to mind in Esterina's case... *gloat*
2. do u suppose she's his girlfriend so he's defending her?
(02.28.07)
3. Blabber all you like - YOU LIED!! LIVE WITH IT!
(02.28.07)
4. Wake up call.
Colin. ,   Barcelona   (02.28.07)
Lieberman apparently does not feel the same way as so many people in Israel do over the current indignation caused by Tartman's lies. It is a storm in a teacup for him. Such disregard for the truth and for the overwhelming feeling of disbelief and sadness by the Israeli public should be a wake up call to Israelis at the next elections.
5. Did you hear anything else from me?
(02.28.07)
an arrogant ignorant racist adds to his characters foolish extravagance.
6. what for olmert
ali ,   palestine   (02.28.07)
we heared liberman, it is very natural for him, but should olmert accept her for aminster? or shouldent olmert be trialed for many acusations. not the arabs are corrupted also jews. israel is proovin that it is amiddle eastern state, welcome to the arab league.
7. A DEGREE MAKES OUR LEASERS MORE WISE?
HOW ABOUT OLMERT ,   PERETZ,PERES.SMART??   (02.28.07)
8. Nothing so impressive as a strong liar. Sadly...
Shuki   (02.28.07)
... in the current state of the government, you have nothing on the corruption of some of your peers. Sad, sad. Agreed -- the circus is out of proportion. Nonetheless, it's enough to disqualify Tartman from office. SURELY there are others equally if not more qualified out there who don't suffer from her poor credibility.
9. so what?
Rob ,   London UK   (02.28.07)
big deal! why's everyone getting so hysterical over whether Ms Tartman precisely had a masters or not? like this is the biggest issue in Israel at the moment? The ONLY people who are screaming over this inconsequential nonsense are left-wing, Israel-hating, pseudo-Jews, who are more a danger to Israel than Ms Tartman will EVER be! stop whinging, you pathetic enemies within! as for Ms Tartman, good luck to you!
10. MANIPULATION
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (02.28.07)
While the moral fiber is desintegrating here,a good and usefull weapon of our enlightend appeaseniks or hellenistic friends is CHARACTER ASSASINATION. A word they do not want to publish,while that is what they do if you do not fit there fine character and highly evolved values.
11. Of course they are being distorted
Motti ,   Ramat Gan   (02.28.07)
SHE IS DISTORTING THEM!
12. Seeking to Give Jewish Land to Global TERRORISTS is WORSE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (02.28.07)
Shrinking TINY Israel to indefensible borders only 9 miles wide at mid-section enabling a second Holocaust of Jews is a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. Jewish land and assets were seized by Israeli leaders for global jihadists bent on Israel's annihilation. 10,000 Gaza and north Samaria Jews were rendered Jews jobless and homeless and lived in tents for a long period of time - forced into poverty - a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. Olmert gave his terrorist favorite, Abbas - kisses.
13. Just fire the tart!
moses ,   sinai   (02.28.07)
14. Hey Robby #
Nadav ,   Misgav   (02.28.07)
15. distorted?
shilgia ,   israel   (02.28.07)
Excuse me? The point is, that she lied! And someone like this I should trust? Who tells me, that she won't tell more lies in the future? But sadly it seems to be very common to be a dishonest person in this government! What a shame!
16. Tartman
adam ,   Zichron, Israel   (02.28.07)
She's not bad looking
17. This woman still doesnt understand
Peter ,   Toronto Canada   (02.28.07)
Avraham Ofer did not commit suicide because he felt he was under too much scrutiny from the press, he killed himself because of the shame he felt for himself and his family after he got caught embezzling money. He was too much of a coward to deal with the consequences of his actions. Tartman believes somehow she is the voctim here. It is preposterous. I dont believe for a minute that people have a slip of the tongue and give themselves degrees they dont have. I have 2 university degrees. I have never claimed 3 accidentally, nor any that I dont have. Furthermore, I dont believe that Ms. Tartman has never looked at her profile on the knesset website. Its a joke. The Knesset does not simply make things up. The bios are provided to them by the MKs offices. This woman needs to resign ASAP.
18. Trustworthy?
Xaxam ,   Rehovot   (02.28.07)
How can one believe the person who obviously dressed up all her CV? She describes herself as religious, so what if one day we will know about her petits affairs? Thus far her only merit was the loyalty to the Party Boss. But hadn't we seen already Alex Mitsubishi? Right views (tartei mashm'a) do not make liear yet a right person. Of course, all this should have been brought to the daylight much, much earler, but in the election rage who cares about cleanness as soon as you can bring voters! She was already cutely dubbed "Tartarine" - remember the Daudet's hero Tartarin de Tarascon, who was a famous lion hunter. Nothing to add to this!
19. Excuse me, Rob #9, but
JPS ,   Efrat   (02.28.07)
Us right wingers are also fed up with lying, cheating, mafia-loving politicians and cops. Maybe you like it that way in London, but the entire country here, left - right - and center, is getting pretty sick of it. Yes, MKs lie for a living, but they're supposed to be a lot more savvy when they do so. Tartman is a phony. Lieberman is a question mark because he is supporting a phony to be a cabinet minister. A situation like this never would have gone this far in London, by the way, because Tartman the MP would have been forced to resign long ago. (and we're scratching our heads over people like you who seem to think that our elected officials in Israel should be allowed to lie and cheat...)
20. We need honest ministers
Barry ,   Boston, USA   (02.28.07)
A strong Israel requires that a basic level of honesty exist among its leaders. The recent government scandals have only hurt Israel and weaken its soul. Now that we know in advance that Esterina Tartman has no problem lying about her background it is time to nominate a diffierent candidate for tourism minister.
21. SHE'S A VERY GOOD PREVARICATOR!!!
stude ham   (02.28.07)
Just like her Kadima led government leaders! Just dump this whole idiot Olmert-Peretz-Peres led government. Israel cannot survive their leadership.
22. Amazed at the religious right's audacity
Peter ,   Toronto Canada   (02.28.07)
I am always amazed when those on the allegedly moral religious right come to the defence of such a morally bankrupt case as this simply because they support her agenda. Here we have Rob in the UK # 9 who seeks to define who is a Jew and who is a "Pseudo Jew" and accuses those who find MKs who lie about their qualifications as "Israel hating". In face Rob, it is quite the opposite. Nothing speaks to hatred of the Jewish state, than making allowances for the deterioration of the legitimacy of its democratic institutions.This is not a matter of left vs. right. It is a matter of expecting those seeking or holding power to be honest about their qualifications, much as any academic institution does, and any company does about their employees. This goes to the heart of a governments legitimacy. Your failure to see it is evidence enough that you care little for Israel, just for your own agenda within Israel.
23. I would not be surprised if...
Eric ,   Toronto   (02.28.07)
tomorrow we hear that Tartman and Lieberman are having (or had) an affair...Giving the state of political affairs in Israel now nothing is surprising anymore...
24. #12 and lies
Rustum ,   London, UK   (02.28.07)
Does Ms Rivera believe that lying about 2 degrees is dishnourable? What's all the nonsense about "seeking to give Jewish land to global terrorists" got to do with the price of fish? Ms Rivera is always unable to distinguish the finer or even the coarser points which divide truth from lies, propaganda from history, and racism from righteousness. How many false degrees does Ms Rivera claim to have?
25.  Masters Degree is the lowest standard in the diaspora !
bentham ,   singapore   (02.28.07)
Even my maid, is doing the Masters with University of London ! And these polititians of Israel and their academic records a BIG QUESTION ! Shameless !
26. Hope she is still willing to be Tourism Minister
Chrissy K ,   Helsinki   (02.28.07)
Israel will get a brave and wise Tourism Minister if member of parliament Tartman accepts the job.... The howling dogs writing comments against her would best do a self.inventory first. When they declare themselves perfect, then they can start howling again.... Basically we have someone who has the disadvantage of the pain and effects of a spinal injury but overcame everything to get an education and succeed in politics.... She also has understanding and insight..... Those without sin, cast the first stone.
27. So many positions - so little qualifications
malcolm   (02.28.07)
What on earth is going on in Israel? It seems from the surface the entire political, judicial, military and law enforcement systems are being run third world leadership from a banana republic.
28. You're distorted because you think LYING is ok, moron.
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (02.28.07)
29. Not "as advertised"?
new_york_loner ,   Rochester, NY   (02.28.07)
She looked good, in person an on the camera. And she looked good, on paper. But, the truth was rather ugly. Tartman's saga is something of a metaphor for the the "Jewish State in Palestine" concept. Ms. Tartman's resume was based upon wishful thinking, Theodor Herzl's manifesto was similarly based in fantasy and self-delusion. Sadly, the safe oasis, the peaceful sanctuary for the oppressed Jewish Diaspora is not working out , "as advertised". There is a grim irony here, the would-be Minister of Tourism, the promoter-in-chief for Zionism, is also found to be, "not as advertised". Ms. Tartman may be the perfect candidate for the job.
30. college degrees
Arnold Eisen ,   Bucks County, Penna.   (02.28.07)
A minister should be appointed based on ability to do a job, not on college degrees. A degree means nothing when it comes to love of a Homeland or ability to function under pressure. She's a good looking Gal, give her a chance. She certainly can't be any worse than all the rest of the government WITH college Degrees.
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