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Filmed raid raises questions on military practices
Associated Press
Published: 04.03.07, 12:03
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1. Does It Save Our Soldier's Lives?
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (03.04.07)
If it does, then there's nothing wrong with it. Our only concern should be in protecting our soldiers. Nothing else matters.
2. The only important thing is IDF soldiers stay alive
(03.04.07)
3. #1. Sure it will save soldiers lives,
RAGUSA   (03.04.07)
and so would the use of death squads, retalliation executions, torture, poison gas etc. A lot of things can save the lives of soldiers or even police officers, but for a country claiming to have "the most moral army in the world" and claiming to be under the Rule of Law, these solutions are off limits, as the Supreme Court has already ruled. I know, It's tough trying to be a member of the democratic world. One day you may make it.
4. #2: No, that's not the only important thing
Michael Steiner   (03.04.07)
You wouldn't like it if the police had you knock on the door of a potential serial murderer, would you? So, why should any other human being (and yes, the Palestinians ARE human beings, much of a surprise as that may come to you). The practice is not "moral and logical" but one totally contrary to all natural, moral and legal laws. Thankfully, our Supreme Court identified it as such and it is unacceptable for any institution below the Supreme Court (and that, in Israel, means EVERY institution, including TYzaha"l) to gainsay or violate its ruling. Our Army is the Israeli DEFENSE Force; raiding households outside Israeli borders can hardly constitute defense.
5. THE BRAVE SOLDIERS OF IDF !
(03.04.07)
MY ASS . LOL
6. Morality is that our soldiers are worth more than they are
Aaron ,   Jerusalem   (03.04.07)
Any of them.
7. Filmed Raid
Robin ,   Sydney   (03.04.07)
This is a typical example of Jewish moral hypocrisy. What a disgusting act.
8. IDF Learned from the British Army
Joseph Agius ,   Malta   (03.04.07)
If anyone has a problem with this, he or she should compare with what the British did n Jenin. Nothing compared with this. Human groups should protest against all those who are athreat to Jews who are trying to live their life in peace. Keep it up IDF!!
9. Also ALL "FIGHTERS"anywhere in World must wear UNIFORMS
Alan ,   SA   (03.04.07)
10. Also they MUST carry any Weapons OPENLY(not strapped to body
(03.04.07)
11. COWARDS !
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12. #2
eugene ,   israel   (03.04.07)
our army is called IDF but it's not a defensive army, the "defense" part comes from the "haganah" the underground resistance group which was the largest before the formation of IDF , IDF is always on the offense.
13. only those who support arab terror don' t agree with # 2
Albert ,   France, Nice   (03.04.07)
14. terrorists bravely shoot from houses
klaus ,   Jerusalem   (03.04.07)
of collaborating "innocent families". The result is simply payback. You reap what you sow. When you actively support the enemy, don't be surprised when you are not considered friendly. Or did you think you could help kill Jews and not pay any price? Sorry, honey.
15. Never hear about the "law" when Israeli civilians killed
Cynic ,   USA   (03.04.07)
16. LAWS ARE ONLY FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE.ARABS CAN VIOLATE ANYTHING
..............DACON9   (03.04.07)
17. #4 When Arabs Adopt Humane Tactics The IDF Will
Yonatan Koss ,   Chi Town, OR. USA   (03.04.07)
You fight fire with fire. It is not just a war of guns and bombs. The Arabs have promised at every turn to give up violence and it has only escalated. Your silly compassion for Arabs and not Jews is the product of years of sensitivity training foisted on you by other leftists. You are a product of your surroundings and are not capable of reasoning or independent thoughts. This war is a war of demoralization and propaganda. The Arabs spread fear and propaganda that creates loathing for the military. You fall right into step because you can not use intellect and free moral choice, you are blinded by your liberal values. All military’s are wrong and all so called freedom fighters are right in your grossly oversimplified model. The truth is the IDF is using the same tactics but you liberals can’t let the IDF do that, that is unfair, why? Because it does not fit your model of the world. It is OK for your Arab friends to use any ploy or tactic to kill Jews but the reverse is not good for the Arab monsters you protect. Arabs are using you and you have no idea, you have even forsaken you blood brothers and tribal allegiance to help support a terror group who is intermingled into the very existence of every Arab inside the borders of Eretz Israel. Your sick ideology of protecting the monster by casting aspersions upon a military trying to protect Jewish women and babies from horrible mortal wounds is very misguided and morally wrong. You cannot and will not see the pervasive hate in your friends the Arabs. You are not enlightened you are under a self made black bag of deceit.
18. Is it so hard to spot a camera?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (03.04.07)
Then jam it into the eye of the photographer. They are the enemy also!
19. JEWS accuse others of WHAT THEY DO
American ,   USA   (03.04.07)
why is it, you always hear jews Whining about human shields etc. or throwing rocks- and then... you see the YOUTUBE REAL GUERILLA UN EDITTED footage- and its the JEWS ALL ALONG committing these crimes- I hope TO GOD the world wakes up and sees what is really going on .
20. Jewsih Bllod IS Cheap
Rick ,   USA   (03.04.07)
The world and all the "human rights" groups could care less if Jews are killed. The only thing more sickening than condemnation from rights groups is the IDF and the Israeli electorate following their dictates. When will Jews stand up? SHEEP!!
21. Israel: simply change the law.
Tracy W   (03.04.07)
Do whatever you must to save Jewish lives and to save Israel. Those who criticize you have no moral grounds to do so.
22. #17 Yonatan - Excellent comment
Jake T ,   Alaska   (03.04.07)
23. OK #19; we know you are really Jimmy Carter
Cynic ,   USA   (03.04.07)
24. HEY #3 - READ #17 - THERE'S YOUR ANSWER
Scott ,   LONDONISTAN-UK   (03.04.07)
25. HEY #19 - YOU TUBE is 'EVIDENCE' LOL!
Scott ,   LONDONISTAN-UK   (03.04.07)
Dont make me laugh . Stick with downloading porn.
26. #24- You're right, I take it back.....
RAGUSA   (03.07.07)
Israel is probably never going to make it into a democratic state under the rule of law if you look at the talkbacks above
27. interesting...
Abe ,   Los Angeles, CA   (03.09.07)
I'd just like to thank the AP and YNet for providing this information and the talkback system. What ever one thinks about these tactics, it's clear that human shields are being used on both sides. Also, it's pretty clear from these talk backs that the hatred and irrationality is probably equal/mutual on both sides. I hope this talk back system helps you all to vent a little and maybe reflect on what's going on. To me it seems that both sides are blameworthy. You may disagree about the degree of blameworthyness, but you can agree that 1) this news shows that both sides have used human shields which may have negative moral implications and 2) there is a significant amount of anger and emotionally influenced arguments that people seem to have in these talk backs (and I assume the same is true of the Palestinian side). Does anyone know of a Palestinian analogue of Ynet news? I'd be curious to check out what people are posting there...
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