Bishops equate Israel's actions to Holocaust
Eldad Beck
Published: 06.03.07, 10:24
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Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (03.06.07)
2. Edlad Beck
josua ,   תל אביב   (03.06.07)
...another anti-german article by Mr Beck. Whatever the Bishops said..they should not equate Israeli action to the Holocaust....but as I know Mr Beck, he is exaggerating like always...Worst writer of ynet !
3. They have no shame
BB ,   Karmiel, Israel   (03.06.07)
How big of them to add that Israel has a right to exist. Actually, they probably see Yad V'Shem as a documentation of Germany's achievements. They are just distressed that Jews continue to live. When will Israel tell these people that they aren't welcome?
4. ANOLOGY ????????
ben ,   singapore   (03.06.07)
1. Yeah Right ! Gettos ?? 2. German Bishops and the Catholic Church have very short memory , may they be reminded of the many atrocities they committed against the Jews. Let me put to them one by one: 3. It is under the shadow of the cross that the Jews have suffered their most tragic turns of fate 9 extermination in the Muddle Ages, expulsion from Spain, the genocide of 1939- 1945 ) The Catholic Xtian Roman Churches the culprit who created the “doctrine of Hate” Now they are here again playing the same game in Israel once again ! 4. I charge the Vatican for the hate doctrine to have isolated the Jews and Christians to live together. To date the Jews will never live together with the Xtian. 900 years of Xtian Occupation has only cause the Jews to still feel nervous when Xtian approach the Jews. 5. The Catholics are the culprits who led to the establishment of ghettos , separate neighborhoods or ghettos for the Jews.It was everywhere in Europe. Don’t forget Goa, Kerala, Cochin even Penang Malaysia. 6. It is the catholic who enforced the rule that Jews must wear the distinctive symbol on OUR cloths. But our fathers and mother walked with those symbols to the Holocaust. 7. The Jews were not permitted to own lands. Look in Malaysia the House of Elihu reverted to the state , no explanation give. Most of the shop lots owned by Jews in Penang, Seremban, Malaysia are now owned by Catholics. 8. .In Singapore, at the Sembawang Park, the house of a Jew is now a sea food restaurant. The Land passed form the Jews to the British and the Japanese and now it is a sea food restaurant. 9. .The Jews have existed in few arrears of tolerance offered by the Catholic Church. Banking and Finance,. Tell the Catholic to eat their heart out, the Banking and financial sector turn gold when we touch them. 10. The many expulsion Eng land 1290,france 1394 11. Spain 1492 FROM GERMANY 1350- 1960’s 12. The Catholics perpetrated deadly violence not only through the crusader but via the lower ranks of the clergy, local potentates, The higher authorities of the Vatican played a direct in indirect role to reduce the Jews. They gave th Jews refuge by false-pretense for conversion reasons. The Church developed the theory of ‘the Nation of Witness” in actual sense to humiliate the Jewish heritage of a chosen People. We were only chosen to give the Torah that is all, but out identity was castigated and defamed. 13. 10. Under the Islamic rule the jews enjoyed particularly fortunate times, although now it is not so !When the Xtians conquest came they killed many jews. The Roman Catholic, Capuchins and Jesuits ( later) reduced the Jewish people. Many Jews was forced to baptism and there appeared the Marranos. The live of Jews were placed under threat of violence , life and limb and death. The 1942 expulsion was the Roman Catholic Invasion. And THESE Bishops of the Catholic Church equate Israel's actions to Gettos ???? BS !!! IN FUTURE ,ISRAEL these XIANS should be STAMPED WITH " PERSON NON GRANTA" ! I go now, this is very HURTING ! :(
ben ,   singapore   (03.06.07)
6. The East Germans Did Not Have Guns And Bombs And-
Yonatan Koss ,   Chi Town, OR. USA   (03.06.07)
Where were these white haired men’s parents between 1937 and 1945? Oh how the old blood boils in those German veins, “The Jews are to blame for the ills of this world” it calls out still! The Spirit of Chrystalnacht lives on in the old guard of the churches of Germany!
7. Some Things Never Change.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (03.06.07)
We all know how courageous the church was in standing up to the Nazis in Germany. So, where is their morality when it comes to terrorism? Strange, I didn't hear a word of condemnation. Nor did I hear anything about propagating anti-Semitism by Islamic facists. Thanks for admitting that we have a right to exist. That's really big of you. But defending ourselves is another matter apparently. After all, good Jews would just sit around & wait to be killed. At least they didn't accuse us of using blood to make matzot. Maybe they're saving that one for the Easter sermon.
8. German Cardinals´ insolent remarks!As long as Palestinians
Isaac Haskiya ,   Roskilde - Denmark   (03.06.07)
As long as Palestinians carry arms against Israel they will be restrained. Is this too difficult to understand?
9. Where do you start.................
Adam ,   Manchester   (03.06.07)
10. Miserable scumbags, idol worshippers..
Arthur ,   S Francisco   (03.06.07)
11. idiot
shimon ,   madrid   (03.06.07)
if israel acted like the nazis there would be no palestinian problem after thirty years of occupation. The difference is completely clear. what the hell is Livni and the whole misrad hahutz doing - i listen to this kind of accusations all the time in Spain and all european media and the israelis do not develope a strong propaganda against these idiots
12. Freedom to tell the truth
Lucid   (03.06.07)
I am British and have just read three extremely narrow-minded comments, supposedly made by Isreali citizens. When will the majority realise that is does not matter what nationality the truth comes from? Ok, these men are German, what difference does it make? The Holocaust and all similar practices CAN'T be excused. It is childish and dangerous to try to suggest or convince yourselves that these remarks were obnly made "because they're German". Come on, open your eyes for the sake of peace and justice! The checkpoints DO treat people like animals. the wall IS redundant and horrific. Have any of you three actually experienced what these people have in the OPT?
13. German Bishops Learn from the Arabs
Aharon   (03.06.07)
To say one thing to the Jews, and another to the rest of the world. Considering it was their fathers and grandfathers who perpetuated that crime against humanity, they sure have some nerve to come to Israel and compare the systematic slaughter of 6 million Jews and millions of others to the poor living condiitons of the Palestinians. Although I cannot say that Israel has no hand in creating these conditions, I think it is fair to say that the Palestinian leaders are resposible moreso for retaining their hard-line extremist stance against the existence of Israel.
14. Hasbara is needed
Josef ,   Finland   (03.06.07)
Those German bishops are like blind and deaf - yet very wordy ones. They don't use their brain for thinking and heart for compassion. The problem is what Shimon in number 11 tells: these wordy non-thinkers receive a lot of air and need for hasbara is great. Therefore, I urge each one to do some hasbara always when possible.
15. *shiver*
Bernie ,   Germany   (03.06.07)
This is sick... and it has, with some exceptions, hardly been reported in German media. These bishops, apart from being too lazy to think, consider the christian rule "Love Thy Enemy" to be suitable for Israel. They're wrong, as many Christians are. By the way, Meisner is at the most a "former resident" of eastern Germany, since Cologne lies in the west.
16. Eldad Beck is right
Jonathan S ,   Frankfurt, Germany   (03.06.07)
The anti-Israeli outbursts of the representatives of a church that was silent during the Holocaust and helped many Nazi war criminals to escape justice, is critically commented in the German press. The views of the bishops do represent the thinking and the mood of the German public. Remember that a Jewish Kindergarten was desecrated with Nazi symbols just a week ago and Jewish graveyards are vandalised in Germany on a daily basis. The speech of the Bishops is the language of the German people who want to get rid of their past and try to demonise Jews and delegitimate Israel to have a better conscience.
17. #12, Sitting In England You Can Relate To Israeli Fear?
Yonatan Koss ,   Chi Town, OR. USA   (03.06.07)
Get off of it Englander, you have no concept of what terror really is. Walk a mile in some Israeli shoes then call them narrow minded. The walls are there to stop bombers who walk up to a large crowd of mothers with baby carriages and detonate themselves. If you think Israelis get some type of masochistic thrill from oppressing Arabs your life is entirely too insulated. It is the Arabs who oppress Israeli life. Guards at every crowd for fear of suicide attacks. Rockets falling into southern cities, constantly. Yes you are British and repugnantly so.
18. BBC just completed INT survey of 28000 people. EU+Muslims
Alan ,   SA   (03.06.07)
hated Israel the MOST
19. It's a bit far but they do have a point
Michael Steiner   (03.06.07)
Fact is that even if we are not sending Palestinians to gas chambers, the mental frameset for it is there. The natzim also started with merely wanting to remove us from Germany and stamping red Js in German Jews' passports--exactly what is being done today in the territories. We are keeping them imprisoned under the totally discredited pretext of security. Of course we have no security when we insist on being in their midst as an occupying force!! We must withdraw to our legal pre-1967 borders.
20. My polish grandma used to tell me about german occupation
yesh li ,   savta polaniya   (03.06.07)
... of Warsaw. and the horrible stories are sometimes very close to what's happening to the ppl in the west bank with one difference, the occupation of poland lasted 5 years, and the occupation of the ppl in the west bank lasts for almost 40 years (the longest in modern history). When comparing the occupations no one in comparing the holocaust, and I believe they did mean the occupation, not the holocaust. It's ironic how YadvaShem museum is located nearby the Dir Yassin village, a site of a massacre commited by jewish terrorists, and the crime continues by not allowing the families of dir yassin to come back, while jew descendants are receiving back their nationalities and properties all over europe.
21. Get out, scumbags.
Yair ,   South Africa   (03.06.07)
Anti-Semitic idiots
22. You German Bishops: How many Arabs has Israel GASED?????????
David ,   Jerusalem   (03.06.07)
or even killed. NOT ONE!!!! Those whom Israel killed were terrorists. If anything, it's the Arabs whom you should compare to Nazis. Who are the ones who killed and maimed THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT civilians LIKE THE NAZIS in buses, in cafe houses, on the street, etc.???? You BIshops are a buncha anti-semitic hypocrites if you deny the fact that Arabs act like Nazis. You Germans, like France and the rest of Europe "believe" that by appeasing and not condemning the Arabs, you're doing good for mankind. Just the opposite. If the world would tell these Arabs exactly what they are - a bunch of terrorists and human beasts - and get rid of them from our midst, there will be peace and quiet worldwide. But instead, you make believe (because you're scared of them) you're on their side and fight against the Jews - just like your Nazi forefather's did. So now, who are the real Nazis?
23. Apples
Jayzee ,   World Citizen   (03.06.07)
Ask them what their parents and grandparents did during the war. Then ask yourselves if maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
24. Look at the bright side!-Bishops say IL has right to exist
Their Nazi Murderer fathers said Jews do not have right to exist...So there has been tremendous progress. Thank you Bishops (for nothing!)
25. Lucid - please read
Adam Shapiro ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.06.07)
Your claim that the checkpoints treat people like animals could be somewhat justified - one point though - how come the fact that I have to go through checkpoints every time I want to enter a shopping mall, cinema or even COFFEE SHOP, no-one equates this with animals. Why? Because this is necessary to keep Jew-haters and murderers at bay. By the same token, the IDF checkpoints serve as a means to keep them at bay. You obviously have no idea what "the wall," you talk about even is. It is primarily a fence, with some solid portions to it. Not only that, but firstly, you cannot even see the fence in most parts of Jerusalem. Secondly, it cannot be compared to the Berlin wall which was erected as a means of SEGREGATION. This barrier has been erected as a means of self-defense. Lucid - these people are so obiously anti-semitic it's frightening. To compare the Warsaw ghetto to Ramallah is one of the biggest misconceptions ever. Even more so than your own. What's next? - equating arab terrorists with the heroes and martyrs of the Warsaw ghetto uprisiing? Once a nazi, always a nazi. May their names be blotted out for all eternity.
26. If it's true....
eh-oop ,   UK   (03.06.07)
If this report is true, then what the bishops have done stems from wilful ignorance, and wilful ignorance informing the pronouncements of religious authorities is moral cowardice of the highest order. Why wilful ignorance? Because the facts are there for all to see. There is no equivalence. Where are the extermination camps? There should be none, and there are none. Then look at the significant reduction in terrorist attacks resulting from the separation barrier. Look at the advanced medical care provided by Israelis for Arabs from Gaza, the West Bank and Iraq. Compare it with the hatred for Jews and Israel taught to Palestinian children. Consider the status of minorities in civil life in Israel with the threat of death to Jews in the Hamas charter. The resurgence of anti-semitism in Germany will only be fuelled by Bishop Hanke's (any relative of Himmler's successor as head of the SS?) message to his churches. And, directly to their hosts in Israel, these men said nothing? Being two-faced must ease the pain of turning the other cheek. Wenn das was hier steht wahr ist, dann seid Ihr schamlos feige und ohne Gewissen.
27. Latent European Xtian hatred for Jews alive and well
Yacov ,   Ashkelon   (03.06.07)
The horrors of the Holocaust have forced European Xtians to restrain their hatred for Jews. Though latent, this hatred is alive and well as evidence by these Xtian bishops and their political propaganda. Just as the rationalized actions by the Nazis, they are now rationalizing actions by Arab Muslims, the current storm troopers trying to destroy Israel and her Jews.
28. If so, Suicide bombings,firing Qassams are acts of Angels!!
KMR ,   Middle East   (03.06.07)
29. to 3, They have no shame ??? you have ??????
30. If those Yad Vashem museums are teaching the Israelis nothin
Marwan ,   Amman, Jordan   (03.06.07)
then they better just tear them all down, and use the space for community centers.
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