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Settlers who raided Hebron house will not be evicted
Efrat Weiss
Published: 20.03.07, 11:32
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1. Dear Mr. Pines-Paz,
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (03.20.07)
You state: "The State of Israel is a state of law, which should apply to everyone," Pines-Paz said. I just want to remind you that long before there ever was a State of Israel, we had the Torah. The Torah, too, is Law. But, it is also Justice, Kindness, Brotherly Love, Honesty, Never Slandering, and A Supreme and Deep Concern For The Welfare of One Jew For His Fellow Jew. The Torah and its morals, too, apply to everyone, including you, Mr. Pines-Paz.
2. photo: troops in civilian clothes, kippas guarding settler!
observer   (03.20.07)
is it permissible to IDF troops to be not in uniform. Maybe because they do not want to incite violence, but why the kippas?!
3. So much for the rule of law in Israel...
Michael Steiner   (03.20.07)
A bunch of racists colonists occupy a house in the middle of a city in which noone wants them there, and the police do jack squat. If a Palestinian who has deeds to a property in Israel tried to do the same, he'd be shot at the first checkpoint. This injustice is gut-wrenching.
4. Hey, Steiner: Show ONE instance where an Arab was shot
David ,   Jerusalem   (03.20.07)
for owning proropery in Israel. Jews are not hot heads like you and the rest of your Arab friends.
5. #1 Reuven: PinesPaz doesn't know what Torah & Moral Laws are
David ,   Jerusalem   (03.20.07)
Teach it to him. Perhaps a spark of his Jewish soul will awaken. These illiterate Jews sitting in the Israeli Knesset and in the Israeli Courts have no knowledge of Torah laws and Jewish moral values. Sad but true.
6. to number 2 -they arent IDF the pic
racist settler   (03.20.07)
those are armed settlers in the photo, not Idf troops.
7. Claim of Ownership
PE Haberman ,   Gan Yavneh, Israel   (03.20.07)
The settlers claim they purchased the property and have a recorded deed and.or bill of sale to support their assertion. Purchasing property in the territories often requires deception as arabs desirious of selling their property do not want to appear selling to Jews. "Straw people" are used to complete the transaction. Perhaps this is what happened here. Instead of making an international incident, why don't the parties produce their proof.
8. Asocials
Jane ,   Czech Republic   (03.20.07)
Yes, in all civilized World are people, who are storming somebody elseĀ“s houses and other possession, named ASOCIALS, THIEFES (especially in the Middle and South Europe). Only in Israel and occupied Palestine is THIEVING, of course only JEWISH and only AGAINST non-Jews, LEGAL!!!!!! When I saw photos of that ziomaniacs, devastating, with arms in the hands, nonjewish house, as if I saw homeless asocials in Prague. Yes, yes, also its clothing is similar - but "our " asocials has no weapons and police trenches against them.
9. THX NR 1 REUVEN BRAUNER
JUDEA ,   DAVID   (03.20.07)
for your words of wisdom. I am surprised it did pass censorship. I hope just like you do that every time you write something like this,you will reach someones soul. Although i do not have much hope for mr steiners teshuva,but one can never give up. I believe that more and more israelis are becoming aware that the laws of this state and its foundation are faltering. Even among the media some of them might wake up and connect to our real roots. There might be light at the end of the tunnel after all.
10. illegal
yosi ,   jerusalem   (03.20.07)
all the state of israel built by the same way its realy strange, occuping a four floors building with police protection, is this legal
11. Swine-er's rule of law in Gaza
marcel ,   florida   (03.20.07)
This detestable moslem never balances his act by commenting on the lwaless conditoin of life in his Gaza or the frequet murder of children by the internecine warfare which rulse the streets of Gaza ,or the kidnappings of foreign journalists there by the lawless thugs and criminal;s and terrorist vultures who prey on everyone ........ But he does have alot to say about peaceful Jews buying a house to live in ! The man Swiner is a snake with venom dripping from his lips.
12. WHAT INCREDIBLE RACISM!
HaDaR ,   Israel   (03.20.07)
It's INCREDIBLE! A Jew buys a house and a whole bunch of people JUMP and demand that they be kicked-out! May be we should start applying the LAW OF THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY AND OF THE STATE OG JORDAN, SYRIA etc., WHERE THERE IS DEATH PENALTY FOR THOSE WHO SELL REAL ESTATE TO JEWS!!!!
13. Well isn't all legal?
Abdullah ,   EuMe   (03.20.07)
Well if they paid for the property, then what is all the fuss about? If money changed hands, then they'rent settlers but residents. In a country of law, people are free to but and sell property to/from whomever they wish. Did they rob or dispossess anyone?
14. They are scum bags - the lot of them
(03.20.07)
15. #4 and Arabs owning propertly in Israel
Rustum ,   London, UK   (03.20.07)
A little closer look at the history of your country would show you, with regard to Arabs owning property in Israel: a) Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians do own property in Israel. Ownership was transferred, illegally, after 1948 by various means including the infamous "ne'edarim nohakhim" ruling whereby their physical presence in their property was not enough to convince the state that they were not absentees! b) You might not have noticed, but ownership of property in Israel is not open to just anyone with enough money to buy. A simple look at the history of Karmiel will show "In January/February 1972 an Israeli Arab entrepreneur offered to invest money in building industry in the town, industry where both Jews and Arabs could work. The offer divided the town, but those who opposed won, and the offer was rejected." c) There have been many, many cases where assets illegally transferred to the Keren Kayemet from their legal owners were only put up for re-sale to Jewish citizens of Israel. d) You have to be completely blind and totally ignorant of history to think that a Palestinian or Israeli Arab can simply walk into an estate agents, slap down the money, and buy a property. e) Michael Steiner is a brave man who is obviously motivated the blatant injustice in his country. The constant stream of "abusive" comments about him and his "Arab friends" simply shows up the racism of his detractors. I'm sure in pre WWI Germany there were many people writing similar comments about "you and the rest of your Jewish friends". f) Do try and remember that the mirror image of your anti-Arab bigotry is plain, old-fashioned anti-Semitism. It is disgusting in both its guises.
16. One sided view
innocent ,   new york   (03.20.07)
I have no idea what the truth in this matter is. BUT how can Ynet only report one side f the story? Do the Israeli citizens who live there (sarcastically called "settlers") have nothing to say? Why isn't their opinion quoted? Why isn't there a listing of all the violence, stabbings, throwing of deadly rocks, etc., that the Arabs do on a daily basis? Why do we still take any Arabs statement as truth - as long as he wears a western suit and tie?Isn't the job of the press to report both sides and investigate?Why don't you report that this building is used as a IDF lookout since soldiers were killed in this area? Or, is it possible that since these soldiers were killed by Arabs, reporting it in this story wouldn't be "fair" to the other Arabs? Would you publish your basis for such one sided reporting? Is it ignorance? Laziness? Or an edtrial policy that "settlers" are always wrong? Please clarify. I need to know if I am reading a balanced newspaper or a political broadsheet.
17. Hypocrite and failure
mike ,   Jerusalem   (03.20.07)
MK Peenis-Paz is washed up has been ad a failure as well as a hypocrite, he says that israel is a land of law, well it seems that the law is on the side of the Jews who liberated a Jewish owned home in hebron. My Peenis should see if the home he lives in is rightfully his after all his dear beloved so called palestinian friends say that where he lives is also occupied territory!
18. micheal steter-you are an arab entity.
susan ,   israel   (03.20.07)
19. They Will Be Evected Ver Soon
1.5 Billion Muslims   (03.20.07)
This is 2007 and Israel still graping Palastinian Houses with the help of IDF : what kind of peace israel looking for , i wonder every step Palastinian take to advanve the peace Israel rejects , The peace isreal will eccept is if all Arabs evacute their land so Graeter Israel will be realize but is that going to happen ? Realirt Check, World
20. TO #19 1.5 BILLIONS ZIROS-OH YEAH THAT WILL HAPPEN. GOD OF
SUSAN ,   ISRAEL   (03.20.07)
ISRAEL IS COMING SOON. WE ALL KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU. IF YOU DONT KNOW YOU CAN READ JERAMAYA 30-32 OR IZIKIEL 38-39. IN THE MEAN TIME YOU CAN SING . . . . DREAMS ARE MY REALITY.
21. To # 19
Marty ,   USA   (03.20.07)
Yes, you might have 1.5 billion muslims (in your dreams), but we have G-D.
22. Headline sounds like
reality Check ,   BaGolan   (03.20.07)
Ynet took it straiight from Al Jazeera
23. Pines-Paz again proves allegience
Reality Check ,   BaGolan   (03.20.07)
And it is not to the State of Israel or to the Rules of Law. The "settlers" claim they purchased the property lawfully for an agreed upon price. If that is true, a paper trail will exist and the authorities have an obligation to examine those papers. let's be real, this wouldn't be the first time Arabs have claimed that we "stole" property from them even after we after we provided indesputible proof that the properties were LEGALLY attained.
24. #3 Michael Steiner
Ely Greenhut ,   Israel   (03.20.07)
Would you give up your house for Plastinians if asked to??
25. What?????
Jane ,   Czech Republic   (03.20.07)
In Israel medias is banned word "G.y.p.s.y."? Why?????
26. Pinus is really what his name says he is
oritush   (03.20.07)
a shmuk and a hypocrite. What about 170,000--yes 170,000 ILLEGAL houses build by the arabs(including beduins in negev and north)? Nobody is evicting them...just yesterday the courts STOPED removal of 2illegal buildings of beduins in the negev and i dont see Mr.Dick screaming about it or the Arab propogandist Steiner(that guy is the scumiest talkbacker on here--i doubt he is a jew). This article is such a one sided propoganda that its worthy of Ha'Aretz...but then i think Ynet is striving to be bought out by them:):):)
27. #6 armed settlers!, but there were not armed Palestinians
observer   (03.20.07)
28. Jews paid $700,000 for this house
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (03.20.07)
It is a crime punishable by death under "Palestinian" and also Jordanian law to sell any land or buildings to a Jew. The Arab wants to keep the $700,000 he took from the Jews and he wants to stay alive to enjoy it.
29. #13
(03.20.07)
palestinians are not allowed by their leaders to sell property to jews. unfair as it seems, the palestinians are afraid that if they sell to jews, they'll be killed.
30. I Admit, Arabs Are Violent, Jews Have Taken A Beating!
Yonatan Koss ,   Chi Town, OR. USA   (03.20.07)
What is not mentioned is that most of the houses that have been purchased back by Jews were homes that were stolen in the mass Jew killings of 1929! Come on, this is a totally one sided argument ignoring the long standing facts of Jewish oppression. Not even one comment or note of Arab violence against Jews who have lived in Hebron for well over a thousand years! Peace now should be called Death to Israel now. It is a Tort attack on Jewish rights by condescending left wingers. This article is totally devoid of any truth or reasonable argument.
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