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Jewish students attacked by Israeli academic
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 05.04.07, 22:58
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1. Ilan Pappe
Jane   (04.06.07)
Pappe is not about debate. He's about shoving his viewpoint down everyone's throat, much like his friends. He is the kind who calls everyone else fascist when, in fact it is he who insists on dominating our perspective. Rubbish. Perhaps he'll get a reality check in Finsbury Park when he at last realizes that it has nothing (or very little) to do with Israel and everything to do with being a Jew. He may think he is one of those "citizen(s) of the world", but much like the Nazis, Islamofacists don't care how much Jew-denial Pappe is in.
2. Quisling
NS ,   Long Island, NY   (04.06.07)
Ilan Pappe is a quisling. He has brought disgrace upon the University of Haifa particularly the History Department. He is attempting to make a soft landing in Britain by attempting to smear Jewish students there. I urge Jewish students to fight this disgrace with all of your intellectual might.
3. Pappe is accusing others of a conduct he approves of........
Chanan ,   USA   (04.06.07)
................ from the opposite side. The boycott on Israeli unversities he promotes is none other than for the purpose of "quashing open debate on the Middle East" against the participation of Israelis in such debates.
4. jew lobby
USA ,   USA   (04.06.07)
it is becoming SO, so, so obvious that the jews supress free debaes about the Palestinians. just remember jews, you are just creating more people that disdain you. grow up . and quit your lying.
5. Apparently, only Palestinian lobby is allowed in GB...
Jonathan M Boyko ,   Ofrah, Israel   (04.06.07)
6. It's not the likes of Pappe that are denied a forum
Raymond from DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (04.06.07)
Anyone who claims he's being "silenced" by the so-called "Jewish lobby" is automatically granted credibility and a forum for their nonsense. We see this in the US as well. They have no case. There isn't a forum that isn't open to leftist, Arabist, pro-Palestinian, or Islamist rants. But should any group critical of those groups attempt to hold a public gathering challenging their agendas, or be openly pro-Israel, they may well be shut down out of "fear of offending", or for "security" reasons. Nor should Pappe should be considered a legitimate scholar, as he begins with an agenda , constructs his narrative, then selects or fabricates "facts" to make his case. It is his disdain for facts and for the state that gave him succor - not any courage on his part challenging "established orthodoxies" - that led his former colleagues to shun him.
7. Ilan "History need not be based on facts" Pappe
Alexander ,   Ramat Gan, Israel   (04.06.07)
Professor Pappe's Ph.D. likely stands for "Playing with half a deck", if you know what I mean. He is the type who is out to thrust his view down everyone's throats by any means avaliable, including deliberate and shameless academic fraud. Pappe was, as I recall, the professor who supervised the masters thesis by Theodore Katz which claimed that the Israelis committed a massacre of Arabs in the Tantura village in 1948. During the libel trial which eventually proved that Katz's claims were false and that he was faking witness testimonies, Pappe spoke in his defence and uttered his immortal aphorism: historical research, he said, need not be based on facts. One would think this should be enough to discredit him once and for all- but apparently, the British universities are not opposed to letting this fraudster teach...
8. Its obvious liberals are squashing freedom FOR Israel
David ,   Boston, USA   (04.06.07)
Liberal and so called intellectuals are limiting free speech and Pro Israel. They are afraid because they know they are wrong and are afraid of the true enemy, Islamofascists and their appeasers. Eurabia has learned nothing from history. Liberal Intellectuals are starting to rewrite history. End this experiment in creating another Arab Palestinian state. The real debate should be why should we create another Arab Palestinian state and when will we rename Jordan to Jordan Palestine? Its inevitable and the right thing to do. I challenge anyone to disagree.
9. A sad day for history students in the UK
Josh Hantman ,   Oxford University   (04.06.07)
His politically infused history stinks of anti-Israel diatribe. Whilst I am no positivist myself, his one-sided discourse and tendentious presentation of his 'new truth' is typical of his post-modernist agenda, deploring any potential middle ground. One thing that angers me about this openly intellectually dishonest 'intellectual' (who has stated he will use opinion when the facts are missing) is his willingness to use his 'Jewishness' to add legitimacy to his arguments. He certainly does not recognise Jewish nationality or ethnicity, yet he is not a practicing Jew. Thus this self-definition is both baseless and intellectually dishonest. He holds Israel to a higher standard than any other democracy, denies the Jewish nation the basic right of self-determination, whilst writing books about 'ethnic cleansing' failing to mention any massacre of Jews in the last hundred years of the Arab-Israeli conflict. I get the impression that his weak self-definition is purely a political tool; after all "I'm Jewish how can I be an anti-Semite?"
10. Me too...me too!!!
enzo ,   london,uk   (04.06.07)
I'm being silenced by the Jewish lobby tooooo!!!!!!! Can I have a chair of history now??? Please...oooh...please...!!!
11. Ilan's statement that
Joe ,   USA   (04.06.07)
historical research need not be based on facts , seems to fit well into the Palestinian argument to have a palestinian State. Fabricate lies, repeat them often enough, and you'll turn them into "historical facts."
12. to #4 Who asked you?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (04.06.07)
you are probably some sandcrab and not from the U.S.A. unless it is the union of saudi arabia. you would probably like that sicko pappe. He should have been jailed long ago. If the Jews of england had any pride they would beat him.We should have excommunicated pappe and others like him.
13. Bad to have him disseminating his grade D 'research' abroad
NL ,   Israel   (04.06.07)
But I'm still so glad my tax dollars will no longer go towards any part of the sham that he referred to as academic research. In addition to publishing biased and tendentious research papers, (which were often based on only one , very subjective human source) Pappe was also in favor of fun extracurricular activities on Haifa's campus, such as the Islamic Movement Student Group's journal for Arab university students that profiled and praised such 'great leaders' as Osama Bin Laden and Hassan Nasrallah.
14. sandcrabs
Jacob ,   Zion, Africa   (04.06.07)
He might well be american, there are plenty of ultra-right and extreme left meshuginners in the US who hate Jews as much as any Islamofascist!
15. I advice you to read Prof. Pappe's book
Palestinian   (04.06.07)
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine A very important piece of work which shed some light on what the Palestinians have experienced on the hands of zionism. Note that this an excellent version in english which along with other books written in Arabic document the Nakba (Catastrophe) of Palestine.
16. how can this traitor be employed by an israeli university?
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17. They knows you well
(04.06.07)
I told you before you became like an open book for the world and they know how you are thinking and how dangerous you are ..... their job is to study not to creat a political loby ... they deserve the attack ...... you are like worms in the socities can not live normal in peace beside the others ... trouble makers ... and then you ask why the entire world hates you .... poor people ... still you don't know why ??
18. ILAN PAPPE IS NOT A HISTORIAN HE'S ONLY A JEW HATER
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19. Pappe should start boycotting psychiatric institutions
(04.06.07)
why isn't he in one already???????
20. Ilan Pappe's New Facist Left
Israeli Academic   (04.06.07)
This war-monger should be banned from Israeli institutions and certainly not receive any financial support through a university or any other forum paid for by Israeli taxpayers. He is a travesty and a stain on his profession and traitor to his own people. If he is so enthralled with defending Palestinian terror he is invited to convert to Islam where he will most welcome.
21. don't let the door hit you on the way out
Rami ,   San Francisco   (04.06.07)
Enjoy the Jewish community in the uk, they'll accept you when you follow all their cute minhagim and wear the correct coloured attire to shul.
22. C'MON THIS MORON IS NO RELEVANT
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23. HE'S
Batfink   (04.06.07)
24. THE MUSLIMS KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THEIR DISSIDENTS?
Batfink   (04.06.07)
Guys like this are perfectly entitled to their stupid opinions. But I always find it interesting when I hear of how people who speak out against the mainstream are treated in Arab countries. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT , EH?
25. fanfaron
Jerred   (04.06.07)
In England, this fanfaron will certainly learn humbleness. I don't know if he will learn to listen to others, thogh.
26. #4
Jerred   (04.06.07)
You are probably one of those that suckled hatred to the Jew with their mother's milk. Your disease is incurable.
27. #15
Jerred   (04.06.07)
And I advice you to read what arabs did to Jews living in the land of Israel. Read abut the Hebron and Jerusalem massacres, Zefat ,and many others. You see, it is not black and white as you think.
28. #17
Jimmy   (04.06.07)
No, we don't ask why people like you hate the Jew, wWe know it. You know why? Because you suckled hatred to the Jew from your mother's breast! You suffer from an incurable disease my friend!
29. Pappe
Genie ,   UK   (04.06.07)
I am at one of the UK universities that is a hotbed of anti-Israel lobbying. It has definitely become anti-Jewish - these people crossed the line years ago but no-one took much notice. Pappe will now only add to this anti-semitism - it is rife on campus and he will be in his element. He is the usual leftist self-hater, nothing new in this country. We all know this type of person - "forgive me, I'm sorry I'm Jewish, is there anything I can do to destroy my heritage".
30. History of Palistinians is another pretend college course
Rachel ,   Tel Aviv   (04.06.07)
Since the Palestinians have never been a distinct "people" and have only been made so over the last few decades, what kind of history class can this yokel teach? More anti-Israel, anti-semetic crap. I'm (almost) amazed this guy gets paid for this.
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