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Fifth column forever?
Abir Kopty
Published: 07.04.07, 11:11
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31. Wrong #29. The Jews do need the permission
Barry ,   USA   (04.08.07)
of the Arab citizens of Israel. They are the true masters and the Jews are the slaves. The Jews work, produce benefits and defend the Jewish homeland while the Arab citizens procreate, socilaize, don't serve in the IDF and challenge the Jewishness of Israel. Yet, they demand the same benefits the Jews get. So, who has it better in Israel? Obviously, the Arab citizens do.
32. banan et al, number 18
some one ,   los angeles   (04.08.07)
my friend rather than looking at the mirror i like to look at the history you do not know what i am talking? ha, go on the internet and google these subjects, you see what i mean "omar pact", "khybar"," 1400 years history of jews in moslem countries", you know what ,forget about jews, just read what you have done to your own ilks, bahaiis, ahmadiehs, hanafis, ... ha you want i believe because israel had relationship with south africa then it should be subjugated? listen my friend democracy is not confusion, that is true every body can say everything, but you have to do your own thinking and have the option of believing or not, beleive me you have had better time that any jews, any moslem country any time of history,
33. to all of you rightous
banana ,   jerusalem, palestine   (04.08.07)
if the arab dictatores who where crowned by the west, are bad to jews and arabs, this does not justify your own racism. look again in the mirror and try to spell my name right
34. to #19
banana ,   palestine   (04.08.07)
the welfare is not free you idiot, because we pay as much taxes as israelis do, and we dont get half of what they get
35. #20
banana ,   palestine   (04.08.07)
reinforce your ignorance, you can try aljazeera.net and right your BS
36. #22
banana ,   palestine   (04.08.07)
such a religios idiocy, go and read your bible and check, also go and check what isreal is doing to palestinian christians while you are at it. and since you are an amesterdam why dont you smoke a splif for the peace in the holy land
37. #32
banana ,   palestine   (04.08.07)
please go and read your history again and instead of memorizing names read the full page. Omar pact where given to the christians of jerusalem so they would not be harmed, Khaibar the jews broked the convent. their are ahmeidas in islam, and hanafis are an imam who still untill this day muslim suni's follow. as for jes and islam, go and check the spanish inquisition and how muslims protected jews, look at Morroco and see how jews are living. before pretending that you know s**t go and read some history and prefrebly from a book and not google.
38. To banana: What's the matter you were furloughed by Hamas?
Bill ,   USA   (04.08.07)
We know how the Arabs protected the Jews when your prophet Muhammed killed off 800 Jewish men in Medina, Arabia. That was the 1st Holocaust. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem met with Hitler. What do you think they were discussing? How to save the Jews from annihilation? In 1947 1M Jews were expelled from the Arab states, some were killed. Thank you for your protection. Granted, your life would have been a lot easier had the Jews did not defend themselves. As for the taxes you pay into the Israeli coffers, you are not required to live in Israel. Find your place of happiness in one of the 22 Arab that are free of Jews. Let them give you the first rate education, professional opportunities, freedom of the press and world class medical care.
39. The Jews in Swizeland raise the flag with Cross with proud
but Ms ABIR refuses ,   to raise STARofDAVID   (04.08.07)
40. #33 The Arab dictators are the products of the Arab culture
To Banana ,   USA   (04.08.07)
It is not the guilt of the West that the Arab states are so brutal, racist and backward. Moreover, It has nothing to do with the Jews. Please remember, there are very few Jews in all Arab states combined but there are many Arabs in Israel. Why? Obviously, they love the Jewish state. An Israeli residency document is the most sought out commodity in the Middle East. It is the Jewish state of israel the gay Arabs flee to when they are in trouble and need to protect their lives from their Arab brothers.
41. To banana #36. One Of Those Practitioners.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (04.08.07)
You write :".. check what Israel is doing to Arab Christians ..". You mean to say : what the Muslim Arabs of Israel ARE doing to the Christian Arabs of Israel. The Israeli Muslim Arabs are TERRORIZING the Christian Arabs of Israel. DUE to those obnoxious activities of them, i.e. Muslim Arabs, the Christian Arabs are fleeing Israel. Your mentality reveals you ARE one of those practitioners of the 'so-called religion of peace named Islam'. SHAMELESS people you are !!!
42. Author is correct, we want to destroy Izrail and exbect Jews
Jalal ,   Gaza Kassam Rebublic   (04.08.07)
to be habby about it.
43. No. 27
Faraz ,   Meldreth, UK   (04.08.07)
Your're absolutely right - and I have never supported that either!
44. No. 28 and history
Faraz ,   Meldreth, UK   (04.08.07)
I think you will find that there are few who would endy the dates you have given, but At the same time it is necessary to examine history in its context. An expulsion during the reign of Vespasian or Titus by no means suggests that a nation can establish itself almost 2000 years later on the backs of the current inhabitants. So this idea of "there is no question " that the land belongs to them is simply irrelevent. By your hypoethesis there should be substantial land takeovers going on all over the world on a daily basis. Once again, international law must remain a basis for negotiation.
45. Abir Kopty founded a group calling for unconditional release
Chanan ,   USA   (04.08.07)
..............of all Arab terrorists from Israeli prisons. This gives her a lot of (unbiased?) credibility on this topic.
46. Abir Kopty - ignore the criticism and keep working
JPS ,   Efrat   (04.10.07)
As Churchill said, democracy is a lousy form of government, but it's the best we have to work with. The minorities in Israel have to keep working through the tools of democracy: the Knesset, the press and the public. Yes, I'm a "settler" and I know that you have a lot of work to do to get your equality and stop discrimination. The laws of the land are in many cases offensive and discriminatory, but that means that we all have to work together to strengthen them. Yes, lots of Jews are fearful of true democracy. A simple example is that everybody should be allowed immediate access to a lawyer when arrested. They are not. Arabs and Jews could and should sieze on this commonality to fight for better rights for all of us. And yes, eventually the national anthem will have to be changed, the country needs a constitution that is binding upon everybody, and we'll feel strong enough to not be threatened by fully embracing democracy. In the meantime, take to heart that even the USA was an officially racist country for almost its first 200 years, but the minorities eventually used the system to overcome the discrimination and get America to move ahead (not that it's utopia). Speak up for your civil rights and don't take no for an answer. And don't let the racist talkbalkers get you down.
47. to 16
one of the us ,   jerusalem   (04.10.07)
i think you are not one of the us // and you speake by the toung of us // .theoritically you are right // but sure the practical is more diffecult // it is not becouse of us .. but becouse of them / this is the openion of one of the us .. if you like to know the response to your 16 post // we need both us and them practical stepes .. i think the saudi is a first step for the practical solving // it is not the right but the practical one // the palastinian accept it but sure the israili are suspect // as always // so they must to put a practical one if they like // but not to look in empty space
48. Muslims DO want to destroy Israel
Reuven ,   Tel Aviv   (04.10.07)
They are not undergoing a process of alienation. They have alienated themselves from the beginning. Where are the hordes of Israeli Arabs who are standing up to PUBLICALLY support Israel and its right to exist against their "brother" Muslims who call for our destruction. Where are the protests against "radical" Islamic Jihadists and homicide bombers? Where are the marches in support of the state and its policies against the terrorists? Where are the volunteers to fight Israel's enemies? Sadly, these people, as a whole, are a fifth column. They continually do things to prove it, and do nothing to disprove it. What shining examples of Arab Israeli patriotism on a LARGE scale do you have ANY evidence of? Why aren't you out there, visiting Uhm Al Fahm, the Triangle, etc. with volunteers and recruiting all these wonderful downtrodden masses to show us how this "cooperation" will actually work in the REAL world? What evidence do you have that these people are fighting for a "common future?" When they stop seeing themselves as our enemy and salivating over what they will be able to take from us as booty when they finally overthrow us; when they start being activists for the perpetuation of the state of ISRAEL against their brothers who seek our destruction, I will gladly embrace them. You make me want to wretch because you insist on living in a fantasy world of peace and love that only exists in fairy tales and in the imaginations of those who refuse to see that there is real evil in the world and it can't be eradicated by refusing to see reality.
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