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Palestinians disavow 'right of return'
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 18.04.07, 13:27
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61. 54 Ann,U.K..Tom's piece,long and rambling
Adrian U.K.   (04.18.07)
is short on facts.ROR was practised recently in the 1990s when the Estonian president offered expelled Baltic Germans(Soviet Nazi Pact)right of return.Thousands of Crimean Tartars expelled in 1944,returned in the 90s to their villages,although now taken over by others.ROR is U.N.Res.194.Further, Israel was admitted to the U.N.conditional to accepting ROR.Makes no difference if all Ps do not return.It is their right.
62. Aparthedi in Saudi Arabia; Go back to Arabia!
Palestiniansareamyth ,   USA   (04.18.07)
Stop occupying American land!
63. The only right of return these Arabs have is to Arabia!
Palestiniansareamyth ,   USA   (04.18.07)
Israel is Jewish and has been for thousands of years!
64. # 53
(04.18.07)
Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean it isn't so, nor will it put a stop to the promise to Issac from taking place. All that means is that your'e going to keep being one pissed off dude because the Jews will keep on prospering and the pals and the rest of the muslim world won't. If you continue to read the Torah, you will find that Hashem promised Abraham that in Issac and his seed would the promise of the covenant be passed down to. So Issac got all that Abraham had, and to Ishmael he gave gifts and SENT HIM AWAY FROM ISSAC. So if you think that all of this is crazy zionist crap, than I suggest you take it up with Hashem and before him you can display your ignorance!!!!
65. #52
(04.18.07)
permit me to enlighten you. you are totally uninformed/uneducated. ISRAEL WITHSREW FROM GAZA A LONG TIME AGO AND PALESTINIANS GOVERN IT THEMSELVES. look what happened when they finally got their hands on free gaza! terrorism and intifadas, kassams and suicide bombings. this is why israel finds it a very legal to enter "gaza space" to hunt down these terrorists and suicide planners who constantly aim and shoot kassams into sderot and ashkelon and various other jewish farms and villages outside of gaza...in sovereign israel. would the usa permit any neighboring country to constantly send missils and bombs to your home? i guess not! israel has the same legal right to fight the palestinian terrorists even in gaza since the bombs and kassams are amde there and shot our way. try living in israel for a week. you'd wish you were never there because of the palestinians. so, quit criticising from a safe home in the usa or canada and face reality. we'll be here for eternity just like yourself. we have the right to our legal country recognized by the entire world in 1948 and please do us all a favor and read your history. israel left gaza some time ago. where have you been?
66. No Peace?
Joe ,   USA   (04.18.07)
No peace? Well that cuts both ways buddy. No peace for Israel, then no peace for you either. And you can continue to live like the dogs you are in abject poverty. You arab bums have never had claim to any Israeli land and never will have claim to it. You are land thieves having stolen it from Christians in the 9th century.
67. now might be a good time to print the talbacks I sent about
Apartheid ,   Boston USA   (04.19.07)
the population of Palestine in 1881 and the uses of archaeology. Now that people are begining babble about how the Palestinians never existed.
68. Oh Great! Now we're stuck with them.
Matt ,   UK   (04.19.07)
69. to 40, 54 and 53
Palestinian refugee   (04.19.07)
as 40 stated it "no where in the world is the refugee status is inherited". If the case so. why then did the Jews, as they claim, came back to Palestine after thousand of years. We are Palestinians whether refugees or not we are Palestinians and will return to our land not after thousand of years but very soon. It is really funny how Israelis are trying to find excuses to take this right from us. You can not deny our right even if we get the citizenship of any country in the world we will remain Palestinian refugee until the time comes where we are allowed to return home. Your arguments are against humanity. You cannot expel population from a land because god promised it to you.
70. #66: Dogs?? is that what they taught you at home?
Salameh ,   Gaza, Palestine   (04.19.07)
Shame on you for using such low language ! It reflects who you are and how low your upbringing was. As for land thieves, you people are the masters, you live in a country that is stolen from its original people from A to Z, every stone in the land speaks of its true Arab Palestinian owners, so who is the thief ya thief?
71. 65 israel withdrew from Gaza but
sara   (04.19.07)
controlled air space,exit points,port.Gaza became an open air prison.Israel did a targeted killing of one their leaders,after which they captured Shalit.Israel went in and destroyed their water systems and most of the infrastructure.This, in addition to all of Israel's crimes against the Palestinians is what makes Israel a 'paria' state in the international community.
72. 64 just because you believe that Zionist
Adrian U.K.   (04.19.07)
crap the Palestinians ain't going to go away.
73. 9your zionist intolerance is not surprising
lakshmi   (04.19.07)
St.Paul said:"In Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile." Islam has as its core:the world community or ummah.Both religions therefore believe in love and community.This is a universal ideal.In Judaism on the other hand there is concern only for Jews.This is a particularism.This explains the hateful way you talk about your semitic brother.
74. Who's land?
Francine ,   PA USA   (04.19.07)
To Aparteid, Well, in that case not many in most parts of the world should be living where they do because history has shown one group of people has conquered and moved in and settled what was once inhabited by another group. So find where your ancestors came from and get out of Boston, which orginally was occupied by the Native American Indians if that's your view of injustice. And by the way the Israelites didn't STEAL the land, it was GIVEN to them by a land grabbing big shot called "The Almighty"!
75. No Jews in Israel?
Francine ,   PA USA   (04.19.07)
Rashid, Please take the time to read OTHER history books instead of relying on what you have been taught in school. The Romans attacked Israel in 70 A.D. and the Jews fled to other countries.mostly around the Medierranian and Turkey. Poland and Russia didn't even exist at the time. What does your prophet have to say about Jesus' birthplace? Was he not born in Bethlehem and was he not a Jew living in Israel? How is it then that you feel the Jews never lived there for many, many years?
76. #49 - Palestinian - Multiculturalism
Jake T ,   Alaska   (04.19.07)
Where in the Arab world do Muslims live "democratically" with their Jewish neighbors, with equal rights, equal laws for all? Where in Asia do Muslim minorities accept to live under "multicultural" conditions without resorting to violence? Not in India or Thailand, to name just two. And even when Muslims live in a country as a majority, they do not live peacefully with each other (Turkey, Egypt, Iraq). So your argument does not hold.
77. to #20, The Canaanites were invaders
R'fael Moshe   (04.19.07)
If youknow your Torah, the Canaanites were invaders not too long before the Israelites. They displaced the Hurrians etc. The only current aboriginal inhabitants of that land are Jews.
78. Its the "Law of return"
R'fael Moshe   (04.19.07)
Israel passed the "Law of return" which allows Jews persecuted arround the world, a safe haven in Israel. Thats quite distinct from an inheritable "right of return" which has no basis in international law at all. It is also distinct from asserting ownership of a piece of property which DOES NOT convey political soveriegnty. I rather suspect that if any of these folks had actual title to any of this, as they assert, they would already have an Israeli attorney and a case in court. I suspect that many Palestinians have purchased an old key at a flea market and then told tall tales to their children about "life before the Jews came".
79. 66 Joe The Palestinians are the Christians from the 9th cent
Apartheid ,   Boston USA   (04.19.07)
century. The Arabs conquered the Christian area in the 7th century then moved on leaving garrisons and a government. The Christian people remained paying taxes. Most of them gradually converted to Islam over the next thousand years.
80. To all Zionists,here are the facts of history
sara   (04.19.07)
Since the jews were defeated by the Romans in the 2nd century A.D. the Jews dispersed into various parts of the region and elsewhere.Since 688 A.D. when the Dome of the Rock was built,Islamic dominance spread both in Jerusalem and the region of historic Palestine and beyond for the next 1000 years.
81. WHY ARE YOU READING THIS? ROR WILL NOT HAPPEN
Scott   (04.19.07)
Talk all you like. Right of return is 100% BS Any "return" will be by force of arms.
82. # 80 Sara No, here are the facts
THE GREAT USA.   (04.19.07)
The Jews being defeated by the Romans has nothing to do with the promise of Hashem to Abraham and Issac and Jacob about the Land. That certainly pre-dates the defeat by the Romans, and yes even the Koran. The palestinians are fighting a war they will never win, and are living in a land which will never be theirs. Whether you believe in Hashem or not has nothing to do with the fact that it is what it is. When Hashem started hissing for the Jews to return in the Dispora, that should have been a sign to the pals that this thing was won by the Jews game, set, and match. Who cares what the rest of the muslim world thinks. If they are greater, stronger, bolder, or holier that Hashem than let them stand before him and declare that to him. Only a fool would do that, but then .....well, you know the rest.
83. speaking as an Indian,the Muslims of
lakshmi   (04.19.07)
India lived side by side with their Hindu brethren for centuries.During the freedom struggle they stood shoulder to shoulder with the Hindus.The partition was created both by British policies of divide and rule and by ambitious politicians who fanned the flames of hatred.Today, the Muslim community live peacefully and make their contribution to national life.Our President is a Muslim and a distinguishe scientist.The Mughal emperors with one exception were enlightened rulers.Akbar the Great is still revered by Hindus.They made contributions to IndoIslamic art and architecture(TM)True, some miscreants have caused problems and both communities are dealing with these issues.A Muslim cleric wrote a song for Muslim schoolchildren:India, our country,the best country in the world!
84. 82 you can believe in hashem,the
sara   (04.19.07)
rest of the world goes by historical facts and that goes like this:after 688 A.D.(when the Dome of the Rock) was built Islamic dominance continued for the next 1000 years in the region and beyond.
85. #83 Lakshmi - Read this ASAP!
Tosefta ,   Tveria, Israel   (04.19.07)
So, Lakshmi, do we still have a deal? Will your country accept the 3-4 million Palestinians? They will do well in your lands, but not in ours. You can have them, and we'll cover the shipping costs. May we begin sending them to you? Thanks!
86. #80 Sara still unbelievably ignorant
Daniel ,   Columbia, USA   (04.19.07)
Sara, I commend you on your stubborness, but continuing to egg on the Palestinians to their destruction could lead to trouble. They won't appreciate being living Bullets against Israel by the likes of you. I hope the Holiday to celebrate this latest defeat will not depress you too much. Perhaps if you choose the name for this holiday, it won't be so bad for you...
87. 78 Right of Return,see 51 concerning
vijaya   (04.19.07)
U.N. Resolution 194.Also the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights,affirms the repatriation of refugees.
88. To 51, 87: FACTS ON UN RES 194 - for Jewish refugees too
NL ,   Israel   (04.19.07)
Your statement that Israeli independence was conditional on acceptance of Arab right of return is a flagrant falsehood: The resolution granting Israeli independence was approved OVER A YEAR before resolution 194 was proposed or approved (Nov 1947, Dec 1948, respectively). Additionally, Resolution 194 calls for a solution to the refugee issue, referencing repatriation OR reparation (aka, not physical return at all costs) More importantly, the repatriation/reparations refer to BOTH arab refugees from the mandate area (now Israel) AND Jewish refugees - over 100,000 - fleeing Arab persecution at the same time. In other words, the repatriation/reparation issue was BIDIRECTIONAL. Thus, right of return/repatriation is not merely an Arab issue.
89. rashid...you're wrong.
maria   (04.19.07)
it's in the prophecy that the muslim world will be destroyed.jerusalem is not even mentioned in your quran. read the five books of moses and joshua.the arab world stole a lot of land from israel.God will judge nations who will part His land,it's in the book of joel.
90. rashid....
maria   (04.19.07)
israel(jacob) belongs to the jewish people.edom(esau) belongs to the arabs.
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