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Israelis, Palestinians discuss final peace accord – report
Joseph Nasr
Published: 24.04.07, 14:31
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1. Fired Bank Teller Giving Away All The Cash
Yonatan Koss ,   Chiloquin   (04.24.07)
The repugnant Ehud Judenrat is willing to punish the Jewish people for loosing faith in him is what the story should say. He is now a demagogue to the world not the Jewish people, his heart is in France among the Goyim. I pray that Hashem makes him as ineffectual as he made Sharon but before he removes Jews from Judea and Samaria!
2. PERETZ / PERES / OLMERT IS RIGHT
MY TEARS ,   ..............DACON9   (04.24.07)
YES SIR..... PERETZ / PERES / OLMERT IS RIGHT..... IF ISRAEL GIVES AWAY ISRAEL........................... THE ARABS WILL NOT ATTACK...... they gave away gush katif................ arabs do not attack gush katif anymore...... SEE ? thats the proof.............. Next struggle where to move to now? IRELAND? WAIT ! I GOT IT !.... ALL JEWS SHOULD RECLAIM JORDAN ... THE BRITS TOOK THAT AWAY FROM ISRAEL IN 1922... or maybe the jews should move to London? oooops , cant do that because london was given to the arabs...... I dont know??? maybe Israelis should stand to fight the leaders first then transfer all arabs out to syria? MAYBE, Rabbi Meir Kahane was right afterall ok go back to my original opening line... israel give up lay down and die the arabs want that olmert peretz peres want that and some of you israelis want that WHY FIGHT FOR YOUR HOMES.... THATS CRAZY ISNT IT? ESPECIALLY AFTER YOU SAID........ *YOU ARE TIRED OF WINNING* ME ? I WILL NOT GIVE ONE INCH I WILL LOOK AT THE VIDEOS OF ISRAEL 6 DAY WAR AND REMEMBER ... HOW BRAVE AMERICANS AND THE WORLD THOUGHT ISRAEL WAS... I WILL REMEMBER THE RESPECT ISRAEL HAD FROM THE WORLD I WILL REMEMBER AND I WILL CRY BECAUSE OF WHAT ISRAEL BECAME.. A TIRED NATION FILLED WITH PRETTY SPEECHES AND LYING CORRUPT POLITICIANS. AND IMPORTING FALSE JEWS WITH NO PRIDE FOR TORAH ISRAEL AND 'GD' AND PEOPLE WHO REMOVE ITS PEOPLE WHOSE VERY FAMILIES DIED IN BUILDING A ONCE GREAT NATION..... I WILL REMEMBER THIS WHILE YOUR POLITICANS SING HATIKVAH AT THE VERY SPOT WHERE THE 'G'D OF ISRAEL TOLD KING DAVID.... YOUR SON, KING SOLOMON WILL BUILD ME A SANCTUARY AND TODAY AT THE KOTEL MAY BE THE LAST TIME ISRAELIS CAN STAND AND SING TEARS OF HATIKVAH I WILL REMEMBER THIS DAY ADDING ANOTHER PAGE TO MY PESACH SEDER,,, and the days when we left israel and moved to the sea and the egyptians danced and sang over our bodies, we left wth our heads bowed down , like dogs of the earth we left and marched to a new gas chamber which the pharoah build on the fertile earth of GUSH KATIF which the PHAROAHS OLMERT , PERETZ AND PERES gave away. the magic of the dark side has polluted our minds and tore our souls and we walked in silence with tears down our faces until they dried from weakness and amalek the world of esau came to drive us further down in shallow graves. in rejoicing victory over israel that has abandone our ONE 'GD' OF ISRAEL and took on false gods of ishmael and esau from rome. I WILL REMEMBER THIS.... BUT WHERE CAN I REMEMBER THIS? WHO WILL ALLOW ME TO STOP TO CRY? WHO WILL ALLOW ME TO CRY? WHO ? BUT THE 'ONE GD' OF ISRAEL' HE WAS LEFT BEHIND.. BUT I CAN RISE AGAIN I CAN BE STRONG AGAIN I CAN PRAY AGAIN..... HATIKVAH........
3. QUOTES TO REMEMBER
(04.24.07)
It is also interesting to note that 1938 was the year of Kristalnacht in Germany, when Jews were given a blunt reminder of what it meant to remain in Galut. And regarding the period after the return of the children of Israel to their land, at the conclusion of the Ishmaelite merit, the Zohar says, "The sons of Ishmael will cause great wars in the world, and the sons of Edom will be gathered to them and cause war against them." Again, no comment necessary, except to note that, in Jewish commentaries, "Edom" often refers to the Western world - Europe and its cultural spin-offs such as America.
4. #2 CORRECTION>>>PERETZ / PERES / OLMERT IS RIGHT.....
YNET ..PLEASE AMEND ,   MY #2 POSTING   (04.24.07)
YES SIR..... PERETZ / PERES / OLMERT IS RIGHT..... IF ISRAEL GIVES AWAY ISRAEL........................... THE ARABS WILL NOT ATTACK...... they gave away gush katif................ arabs do not attack gush katif anymore...... SEE ? thats the proof.............. Next struggle where to move to now? IRELAND? WAIT ! I GOT IT !.... ALL JEWS SHOULD RECLAIM JORDAN ... THE BRITS TOOK THAT AWAY FROM ISRAEL IN 1922... or maybe the jews should move to London? oooops , cant do that because london was given to the arabs...... I dont know??? maybe Israelis should stand to fight the leaders first then transfer all arabs out to syria? MAYBE, Rabbi Meir Kahane was right afterall ok go back to my original opening line... israel give up lay down and die the arabs want that olmert peretz peres want that and some of you israelis want that WHY FIGHT FOR YOUR HOMES.... THATS CRAZY ISNT IT? ESPECIALLY AFTER YOU SAID........ *YOU ARE TIRED OF WINNING* ME ? I WILL NOT GIVE ONE INCH I WILL LOOK AT THE VIDEOS OF ISRAEL 6 DAY WAR AND REMEMBER ... HOW BRAVE AMERICANS AND THE WORLD THOUGHT ISRAEL WAS... I WILL REMEMBER THE RESPECT ISRAEL HAD FROM THE WORLD I WILL REMEMBER AND I WILL CRY BECAUSE OF WHAT ISRAEL BECAME.. A TIRED NATION FILLED WITH PRETTY SPEECHES AND LYING CORRUPT POLITICIANS. AND IMPORTING FALSE JEWS WITH NO PRIDE FOR TORAH ISRAEL AND 'GD' AND PEOPLE WHO REMOVE ITS PEOPLE WHOSE VERY FAMILIES DIED IN BUILDING A ONCE GREAT NATION..... I WILL REMEMBER THIS WHILE YOUR POLITICANS SING HATIKVAH AT THE VERY SPOT WHERE THE 'G'D OF ISRAEL TOLD KING DAVID.... YOUR SON, KING SOLOMON WILL BUILD ME A SANCTUARY AND TODAY AT THE KOTEL MAY BE THE LAST TIME ISRAELIS CAN STAND AND SING TEARS OF HATIKVAH I WILL REMEMBER THIS DAY ADDING ANOTHER PAGE TO MY PESACH SEDER,,, and the days when we left israel and moved to the sea and the egyptians danced and sang over our bodies, we left wth our heads bowed down , like dogs of the earth we left and marched to a new gas chamber which the pharoah build on the fertile earth of GUSH KATIF which the PHAROAHS OLMERT , PERETZ AND PERES gave away. the magic of the dark side has polluted our minds and tore our souls and we walked in silence with tears down our faces until they dried from weakness and amalek the world of esau came to drive us further down in shallow graves. in rejoicing victory over israel that has abandone our ONE 'GD' OF ISRAEL and took on false gods of ishmael and esau from rome. I WILL REMEMBER THIS.... BUT WHERE CAN I REMEMBER THIS? WHO WILL ALLOW ME TO STOP TO CRY? WHO WILL ALLOW ME TO CRY? WHO ? BUT THE 'ONE GD' OF ISRAEL' HE WAS LEFT BEHIND.. i CAN REFUSE TO GO... I HEAR 'GD' TELLING ME.. "THIS IS THE LAND I GAVE TO YOU MY SPECIAL PEOPLE" I CAN HEAR ECHOES OF 'GD' TELLING ME "WHO ARE YOU TO GIVE MY LAND AWAY" I CAN RISE AGAIN 'GD' IS DEFENDING ME... I CAN BE STRONG AGAIN I CAN PRAY AGAIN..... I WILL TAKE MY LAND FROM THOSE PHAROAHS I WILL BE STRONG AGAIN HATIKVAH........ DACON9
5. Palestinian newspaper al-Quds reports Jews infected melons
(04.24.07)
and that we are building the 3rd temple in secret. There will never be a right of return for arabs to come "back" into Israel. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6. #2 don't panic, your prophecy will not come true untill ..
(04.24.07)
you give up your reserve non-israeli citizenship !
7. Palestinian Refugees in Israel?
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (04.24.07)
What Israel? At the rate this is going, there won't be an Israel. Land for peace, my butt. It only feeds into their delusion that you wouldn't give it back, if you hadn't stolen it. How many more times do you intend to fight and kill yourselves for the same pieces of ground? Face it: There won't be peace until they have all the land. Whatever happened to that passion for Eretz Yisroel of not too many years ago and for which you were so admired??????
8. # 7 there is another way you should consider
Oleg ,   USA   (04.24.07)
they (arabs) will disappear, completely, forever. And this is coming (thnks to Iran)
9. To #8
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (04.24.07)
Except for the radicals, I don't have anything against Arabs per se, but I have no respect for those prideless Pali parasites, who can't seem to function without hand-outs. I've never heard of a group of people blowing so much money on staying down-trodden, self-destructive and uneducated. (Deaf, dumb, blind and refugee camps must be expensive these days.) No wonder their own "brothers" don't want any part of them. They'd descent like locusts on every Arab State and turn them back into deserts.
10. Israel needs to solve this with districts
Steve ,   USA   (04.24.07)
B"H The Jews lived in the Goshen district in Egypt for awhile until they could be free and responsible people. Why cannot the Arabs also have a district? That way it is clear that in terms of military defense, Israel is in control. But in terms of nationality, it is also clear that these Arabs are not of the Israeli nationality. Israel should stop negotiating these things just thinking of itself. It needs to think on a regional basis. The other Arab states also are in a similar predicament, and there needs to be a formality that works for everyone. We should expect the Arab states also to setup districts for the displaced. They are no longer refugees for the most part being born in the areas they now reside, hence the name resident. The key mechanism is to facilitate commerence and the building of responsibility among these districts in individual countries, so that these people can practice responsibility and only from there freedom. Only after this mechanism is in place does it make sense to talk about a state of some sort in some location. The concept of the goal of two states cannot be a uniquely Israeli concept if it is to be realizable long term. It needs to hold across the board in the interim as districting within the nations to prepare these people for a different future and identity. I can see Olmert's motivaiton of getting the second "state" established quickly. It is bound to fail and collapse the way it is currently setup. But how could anyone who actually loves these people as humans propose a state at this time when these people are not ready for it, as well as the government mechanism being so corrupt? I see a tragedy in the making unless this can proceed step by step, and I cannot be responsible for the consequences of possibly another war which would straighten out the situation in a different manner with even more "refugees" of war instead of displaced residents of peace. What a tragedy, but what can I do about it?
11. There is no such thing in Israel as a politcal red line
zionist forever   (04.24.07)
Olmert and the resst of the left have no respect for the idea of a jewish state and have forgoton jewish history sure in public Israel staying jewish is very important and what happened to the jews is terrible but give them a free raign they will abandon everything. Olmert will end up giving away every inchy of jewish land liberated in 1967 giving up any kind of security because of Israel lack of strateoic depth. something that once was unthinkable. He has allready said he thinks it will be in Israels interests to divide Jerusalem and its holy sites dividing Jerusalem as once a red line that no Israeli politician would ever cross. After Olmerts finished the jews will be lucky if they are allowed to keep soverignty over the jewish quarter asnd the kotel everything else will go to the arabs. The refugees even though Olmert is talking tough it has gone from being a red line to a pink one where compromises can be made. Since Oslo there has become no such thing as a red line which will never be crossed everything is up for negotiation has become the attitude of the left. Rabin would be turning in his grave at the kind of concesions Olmert is ready to make today. As usual the jews have tried to fit in with their naighbors so much they are willing to do it at their own expense and as long as Israel continues to try and be like every other western state ( allready you have to be carefull if a restraunt serves kosher food or not when there was a time when you could walk into any restraunt and know your being served kosher today thhats not the case ) Also the politcly correct left are trying to embrace the arabs even if that means allowing them to build illigal on jewish land etc and get away with things jews never would .... there is racism against jews now in Israel in the governments attempt to make the arabs feel like they are welcome and wanted. If this politcly correct left wing jewish desire to try and fit in then eventually there will be no jewish state it will have been eroded. The greatest threatr to Israel is not Iranian nukes its the left wing politicly correct jews who want to fit in and non jews to like them.
12. "Painful Concessions"
Miriam ,   New York, USA   (04.25.07)
So what are the "painful concessions" Olmert is willing to make if refugees are off the table? Jerusalem is off the table too. The large settlements in the West Bank are also unthinkable. SO WHAT, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, ARE THE PAINFUL CONCESSIONS? What's left?
13. Olmert's painful concessions: Vastly Increased Deaths & WAR
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (04.25.07)
for Israel's Jews. Surrender to global jihadist, implacable, barbaric enemies is the irresponsible, depraved response of the left - endangering innocents in Israel and globally. Who is a mere man Olmert or any mere human being to rebel against the Creator - the Most High G-D of the Universe -and attempt to give away, take, or steal even one inch of G-D given Jewish Holy Land? G-D is a G-D to be feared! My flesh trembles for fear of You, and I am afraid of Your judgments. Pslam 119:120
14. Olmert Livni Peretz Peres: Islam's WEAPON Against Jews
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (04.25.07)
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