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Vatican to fight anti-Semitism
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Published: 29.04.07, 08:57
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1. Fighting anti-Semitism?
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (04.29.07)
I thought their priorities were fighting Harry Potter and gay marriange
2. Very Good
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (04.29.07)
"Vatican to fight anti-Semitism" Congratulations to the Vatican for its stand on anti-Semitism. I encourage you to continue your efforts and further develop close relationships between members of our respective faiths. The Catholic Church is to be commended for their valuable attempts to promote peaceful co-existence between all human beings regardless of their beliefs.
3. Wrong #1, their priority has been fighting Jewish control of
AK   (04.29.07)
the Holy Land. The Vatican would sooner see Muslims control the Holy land than the Jews. All this talk of fighting anti-Semitism is nothing more than getting an alibi ready. Catholic theology cannot see Jews free in the Holy Land . Nothing is changed.
4. The Vatican are highly reliable; they mean what they say and
Uzi ,   Haifa   (04.29.07)
say what they mean. What they actually do is something else.
5. bhwa ha ha haaa
ben ,   singapore   (04.29.07)
Vatican fighting anti-semitism ???? Like telling the cat to show care to the fish !
6. To #3
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (04.29.07)
Yeah, and Jews use Christian blood in matzo balls... For crying out loud, give credit when it's due. I'm the product of a "mixed" marriage, and though I'm no longer Christian, I've seen changes in Catholics vis a vis Judaism that, 30 years ago, would have been unthinkable. If, as used to be the case, someone told one of my Catholic grandkids that they'd have to ask for permission from a priest to attend the religious celebrations of one of their non-Catholic and especially Jewish friends, they'd be dumbfounded and laugh at you. Maybe I can put the whole thing into its proper perspective with a little story: At a religious conference, a Rabbi and a Priest were discussing jb benefits and promotion possibilities. Rabbi to priest: Where can you go from here? Priest: Well, I can become Bishop. Rabbi: That's nice, but then what? Priest: Well, after that, if I do well, I can become Arch Bishop. Rabbi: Then what? Priest, slightly irritated: If I work hard, I can become Cardinal. Rabbi: Oh, nice! Then what? Priest, really irritated: Well, if I play my cards and politics just right, I can make it to Pope. Rabbi: Then what? Priest, now shouting: What, in heaven's name, do you suggest? You want me to make it to God? Rabbi, with a gleam in his eye: Well, you guys have been trying to convince the whole world for 2000 years that one of our boys made it.
7. Antisemites say Jews killed Jesus then deny that Jews ever
lived in biblical IL ,   Alan SA   (04.29.07)
8. strange,the very foundation of catholicism
Michael   (04.29.07)
is anti semitic. how are they going to fight their own theology?
9. Objective Minds Prevail
Paqid 16 Netzarim ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (04.29.07)
Reuven is right. While we firmly disagree with Christian doctrines, rebuking the Catholics for a step in the right direction is self-destructive hate-mongering. Church doctrines have always depended upon suppressing inconvenient history. In this age of archeological discoveries correcting ancient deceptions coupled with the power of the internet to seep into every crevice of every community, suppressing history, increasingly, is history. The combined forces of science, logic and history will force both displacement theologies to come to terms with historical reality, and that is something we should encourage, not stamp out with mindless hatred. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
10. The Vatican is pure evil
Michael Ben Raphael ,   Tel Aviv   (04.29.07)
If the Vatican truly wants to become a friend of the jews, it must open all its archives, so we can see how complacement they were in the Holocaust. It is only because the Jewish people have returned to their land and fulfilled prophesy that the Vatican realises we are still G-ds people. We must never forget that the church as represented by the vatican was the mosat unholy, unspiritual, ungodly orginization that has existed.They not only have to repent to the Jews, but to other faiths as well. They are resposible for more deaths in the middle ages than happened in the second world war. They truly have their roots in pure evil and if the Pope is supposed to represent G-d on earth, g-d help us all.
11. having fun ?
Atilla Karagözoğlu   (04.29.07)
off anam off :) that means "ahh mother ahh" of =ah Anam = My mom of =ah why you did bring me into world. everyone is lying.
12. To #10
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (04.29.07)
Why start with the Middle Ages? Let's go back to 1500 BC and make lists of who killed how many of whom, and then we all go after each other. You can't change the past; not yours, not theirs, not anybody's. But since you seem to lay so much blame at somebody else's feet, couldn't it be said that Jews brought all those past miseries on their own heads for not obeying god's laws? Sounds horrible, doesn't it? Well, nobody can have it both ways. Wouldn't it make a whole lot more sense for everybody to look to the future, accept and honor each other's differences and try to leave a better world to our kids??? I think, the god of all of us would be much more pleased with everybody.
13. The Holy Bible is always true
Ralf ,   Germany   (04.29.07)
No one Christian figure can change one word in the Bible to make better relations with the Jewish people. What is written about the responsibility of jews at that time for the crucifiction of Jesus, neither the Vatican nor others can delete, or overwithe this historic fact. We as Evangelists see the jews at our times no more than lost people as other nations who need to believe in Christ an become Christians, God's own people.
14. maybe it is not a need !
Atilla Karagözoğlu ,   Istanbul   (04.29.07)
The Sons of Israel are always DIS-HONEST with THE LIFE. I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT. I HAVENT MET ONE SINGLE HONESTY, YET.
15. The God (G-d) 's bad produtions
Atilla Karagözoğlu ,   Istanbul   (04.29.07)
The devil Jews ??? I said the...THE. not all. 3 types Jews I see , 1. The devil ones (the politicians...) 2. The Poor ones (the religious ones) 3. The Good ones. We cant hear their voice. NOW, GIVE ME AN ANSWER !!! AM I ANTI-SEMITE ?
16. who will protect you ? who will be your friend ?
Atilla Karagözoğlu   (04.29.07)
STOP CALLING ME ANTI-SEMITE.
17. today NO DRINK...lets talk.
(04.29.07)
I know everything. BUT I CANT MAKE YOU HEAR ! I wont leave before I make you hear. I am a very good man. learn from me. than you win. Atilla Karagözoğlu
18. FIRST GIVE THE LIST OF FORCED CONVERSOS AND STOLEN JEW ITEMS
STOP PROSELYTIZING ,   IN ISRAEL FIRST...D9   (04.29.07)
19. # 13 And I say to you...
Norway   (04.29.07)
that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. Matthew 8:11 Crossreferences: Matthew 8:11 + Luke 13:28,29 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you - Christians - see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD and YOURSELVES thrust out... They will come from the east and the west, from the north and the south, and sit down IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD. Luke 13:28,29 But the sons of the kingdom (of heaven) - the Christians will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 8:12 Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go your way AND AS YOU HAS BELIEVED, so let it be done for you." And his servant was healed that same hour. Matthew 8:13 We Jews don't wanna be Xtians! It is you Xtians who are LOST...
20. # 8 WRONG
Marcel Abel ,   France   (04.29.07)
The "very foundation of Catholicism" is Jesus Christ, is following him, a Semite. How could our theology, the Christian theology, be anti-Semitic ? Once again, it must be affirmed that this theology is not a replacement/displacement theology dear to some. Jesus of Nazareth is light-years from a "fabricated" Hellenistic idol whom Christians do not follow. And yet, some still want the false replace the true One. 34 But a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law, who was honored by all the people, stood up in the Sanhedrin and ordered that the men [Apostles] be put outside for a little while. 35 Then he addressed them: "Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men. 36 Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. 37 After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered. 38 Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. 39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God." 40 His speech persuaded them. They called the apostles in and had them flogged. Then they ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. 41 The apostles left the Sanhedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy of suffering disgrace for the Name. 42 Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Christ." (Acts 5, 34-42)
21. #6 HE IS NOT ONE OF US, WE ARE FORBIDDEN TO USE HIS NAME
HE WAS A HERETIC IN ,   ETERNAL HELL......D9   (04.29.07)
22. PAQID IS NOT JEWISH, HE PRAYS TO JEUS.
HE IS NOT ORTHODOX ,   ..............DACON9   (04.29.07)
23. Paqid
leon ,   Grand Rapids USA   (04.29.07)
You don't understand...they still evade the truth and ignore inconvenient facts.
24. M. Hartley : YYou can't change the past
leon ,   Grand Rapids USA   (04.29.07)
You are right, you can't . But you must not deny it or ignore it either, and the Vatican does both.
25. 20: Marcel, read, study and ask your priest
David ,   Rehovot   (04.29.07)
Read "Christian Antisemitism" by William Nicholls. Study the long history of your religion. Ask your priest about Vatican II and it finally declaring that "Jews" aren't responsible for Jesus' death. Replacement theology has been a strong component of Catholicism since the beginning. Until you admit that, you won't move past it.
26. The Antichrist
Brod ,   USA   (04.29.07)
The Holy Bible and History have identified the Antichrist. It is responsible in creating and spawning antisemitism and in inflicting the savagery of the Dark Ages and the Holocaust.
27. Has the Vatican apologized for the German Bishops statements
Glenn ,   BC Canada   (04.29.07)
Not yet?
28. To 20
SAUL ,   AUSTRALIA   (04.29.07)
Well said. I beleive in Jesus. He is the KIng. Who through his death, defeated death. Who despite persecution could establish his universal kingdom. All the Roman emperors & kings died & became part of the history. Only, him, still part of our present & our future. His kingdom will have no end.
29. To #13
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (04.29.07)
Cut out the crap and stop insulting people! I was reared Christian, and one of the first things about the religion that threw me for a loop was commandment #1. "I am the Lord, thy God." It didn't say, "We are the Lord, thy God.' For me, things went downhill from there. As for Jesus, he was a Jew - a bona fide, descendant of a long line of Jews - who, similar to the Essenes, had rather unusual ideas about the way things should be that didn't please much of anybody. Given the political situation of the time, his preaching created problems for the Jews and for the Romans, and both sides were glad to see him go. But if you believe he was god and that he died for your sins and that you'll go to hell, if you don't believe it, be my guest. Since I don't comprehend a god who'd be so vicious as to "invent' hell for the children he created in his own image, knowing full well that they'll screw up, I'll just take my chances using the good sense he so kindly gave me. My god lets me know right from wrong, the consequences of either and then turns me loose to live with the consequences of whatever choice I make. As for the new testament, read the history as to why some of the books were included and why some others were suppressed and what was written in the ones that didn't make it. What, btw, does your god have to say about intolerance, bigotry and arrogance? Are you sure you're Christian?
30. "Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem,
Norway   (04.29.07)
and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and to the scribes; and they will condemn Him to death and deliver Him TO THE GENTILES; and they will mock Him, and scourge Him, and spit on Him, and kill Him. And the third day He will rise again." Mark 10:33-34 WAS Jesus RAISED from DEATH? "If Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins." I Corinthians15:17 The stories told in the NT, and the passion narratives in particular, are so inconsistent, that the resurrection story collapses under careful scrutiny. The conflicting testimonies of the evangelists are so unreliable. In fact, there is virtually not one detail of the crucifixion and resurrection narratives, which all four Gospel authors agree. Yet, it is upon this story that the entire Christian religion falls. Now if Christ is preached... that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up- -if in fact the dead do not rise. For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile you are still in your sins!’ Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable... I Corinthians15:12-19 NKJ You blew it - Xtians :))
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