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Ahava cosmetics signs deal in China
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Published: 04.05.07, 09:20
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1. BAN AHAVA PRODUCTS !!!
Joel ,   Canada   (05.05.07)
Ban Ahava products for their deal with china due to the massive animal abuse and torture that goes on in Cina, Many will not attend the games their eithe for this reason. www.peta.com will explain and prove why not to support animal abuse for shear profit and fun.
2. This is all very nice, but
Jack ,   Milwaukee, USA   (05.05.07)
China is one of the worst countries on earth in terms of human rights. Need I even mention Tibet? Besides, what the Chinese do to animals is unspeakable: every year, the Chinese fur industry skins thousands of animals ALIVE. The fur workers just beat them over the head to immobilize them, and then they flay the still fully conscious animals. Check out this webside: http://www.furisdead.com/feat-dogcatfur.asp
3. You guys don't get it!
Stewart ,   USA   (05.05.07)
Ethical cosmetics reduce the chances that the Chinese will turn to other productts and can be a selling point eventually. Also, if the Chinese women get hooked on Israeli cosmetics, it will be harder for there government to give us a hard time. We will just remind their military and governmental leaders that if we with hold cosmetics, their wives and mistrisses will turn into prunes. Sounds effective. :-)
4. I agree with # 1 & # 2
Lauren ,   Israel   (05.06.07)
China is heartless, but then, faced with the option of starving or putting some food in your kids mouths, by working in the disgusting fur industry, well, I would not like to be faced with such a tragic dilema. Most of us are lucky enough to be able to devote time and thought to supporting the anti fur campaigns, and boycott the various companies, but we should also keep in mind, that while we protest these things, we should also offer sensible solutions for the poor, lower classes in China, who work in the fur industry, because quite simply, they are poor and need to eat. If someone in PETA would, for example, also set up committees for finding other work for the same poor Chinese people employed in the fur industry, then that would be a start. Other than that, I do agree: Chinese corporations have absolutely no qualms and no morals. Apparently, neither do the big Israeli corporations. Money talks, that's about it. If, however, by encouraging business, the poor would have better conditions and decent jobs, then great, but we all know who will profit from these deals. I am certain that Ahava should reconsider this business endeavour, as they also claim that their products are not tested on animals. That would not carry much weight now, if they do big business with China.
5. #1
mark ,   ca   (05.06.07)
Get a life!
6. Banning Businesses that have ties to China?
Robert Tilden ,   Sheridan, WY, USA   (05.06.07)
Are you kidding me? Have you looked at any consumer product in the last ten years? If you are serius about banning Chinese products then you will be extremly limited. Limited to the point of being pathetic. I bet parts of the computer you used to type your silly plea were made in China. Ahava products will be marketed in China, not made in China so your worries for animal rights violations in China are misplaced. Moreover, PETA can go to hell as far as I am concerned. China is not perfect, BUT they have lifted more people out poverty that anyone else in history. Do people don't count any more? Yes, China is behind the west when it comes to freedom, human rights, you name it. But did you know where they came from? Keep your stupid opinions to yourself and practice an ounce of what you preach before you say it. You would have thrown your computer away if you were to be true to your idea.
7. To Laurel
Jack ,   Milwaukee, USA   (05.06.07)
So did those "poor" fur workers also have to laugh and have a great time (as they so abviously had on the videos I saw) while they are skinning those cats and dogs alive? Is that also necessary to "put food into their childrens' mouths"? So spare me your bleeding-heart whining compassion for those who don't deserve any. In one regard you are right, though: Ahava's claim that they don't test on animals. So, just in case Ahava's PR people are reading this: my wife and daughter used to buy your stuff. Of course, that's over now.
8. # 7 - Jack
Lauren ,   Israel   (05.07.07)
Jack, Personally, I consider myself a very concerned and involved person, regarding animal rights, and in my home, you will not find one cosmetic product (including cleaning supplies, etc.), that contains animal by-products or has been tested on animals. I boycott any clothing stores in Israel that sell fur, fur trimmings, and leather too, and I also make it my business to tell the store manager that I will no longer buy their merchandise (for whatever it's worth). I am an active supporter of the Israeli Society Against Vivisection, and other organizations, and have been for many years. I think you misunderstood my words, or maybe I did not make myself clear, judging from your assumptions. I am most certainly not a whining and compassionate person when it comes to evil people. I am just someone who is trying to find a way to live without causing harm and violence in this crazy world, and do my small part to help put an end to people's ignorance and LACK of compassion. I will never, ever justify the murder of animals, for any reason whatsoever, especially fur. It is the most barbaric crime, in this day and age, when people certainly do not need fur to keep warm for survival. It is disgusting, and the companies that engage in this horrible business should be charged with first degree murder Yes, in a perfect world, maybe... However, as much as I admire your passion for the cause, you might do well to research more into the lives of the common Chinese citizen, and not judge them so harshly. You put these people on the level of those who are educated enough and comfortable enough to make choices, that, if you were faced with the same situation, you would not have the liberty or sense to choose. The blame should be on the heads of the big corporations, governments, etc, and not the masses of workers, who are ignorant and will do any job for money. Given the opportunity, they might even sell you their daughter for a nice amount. You expect too much from them, and to them, dogs and cats and other animals are just things. Just as most people do not give one thought to eating lobster. I don't think the fact that the poor things are boiled alive disturbs most people, and the ones licking their lips after eating the lobster, might very well be anti-fur, if you get my drift. In any case, I am also going boycott Ahava, and will no longer buy any of their products. They are now on my black list, along with many others. There are many other good Dead Sea products made by companies in Israel, whose products cost far less, and are superior in quality too. One such company you might look into is "Dead Sea Premier" http://www.premier-deadsea.com/HTMLs/home.aspx Just a thought: Have you taken a look lately at your clothing labels? Almost every piece of clothing nowadays is made in China. At least, here in Israel, most of the textiles are made there. It's scary. Anyway, take care and keep up the good work.
9. To Lauren, again
Jack ,   Milwaukee, USA   (05.08.07)
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. It's just that so many of the "liberals" I know here in America are only liberal, in a sort of romantic, 19th-century way, when it comes to people (yeah, sure, they are all "special", all 7 billion of them), and don't give a damn about animals. It is, however, possible to boycott Chinese products, though they are admittedly hard to detect sometimes. Many clothes are made in South America. Some things are made in China, even if it doesn't say so on the label, but if you avoid the products that do say so, it's already a good start.
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