the time for these statements is certainly not now. pullouts have brought only one thing -- lebanon pullout and gaza pullout -- more war. now the syrians are going to see if they can get israel to 'pull out' from the golan by using hezbollah and gaza style tactics. it just doesnt work! peace can only be made between a winner and a loser, and only if the winner has nothing more to gain and the loser has been beaten so badly that it doesn't want to lose again. (think about japan and america after WW2) one thing is for sure, if israel is the loser, the other side will want more blood and peace will never happen. israel must win first, then negotiate from a position of serious strength. the goal now should not be more 'pullouts'. it should be how to fix the defense situation.

"The goal was to convey a message to the world and the Palestinians that we are serious. At the same time, we wanted to say that we do not wish to control the Palestinians," Kol Hakavod tzipi...you really accomplished your goal. 40,000 lbs of explosives, anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, 1 kidnapped soldier, a terror organization in control of the government, and a Mickey Mouse they spews hatred to toddlers. KOL HAKAVOD tzipi. the world LOVES you .....but we don't.

The more land we give away, the less there is to defend. With less land to defnd, the easier it will be to obliterate Israel.

I will NOT live with Palestinians shooting at my family when ever the hell they want to. Sharon failed us, Olmert failed us. And now Livni, whom I thought maybe for PM - Has sold out! We have NO government strong enough to stand and say - enough is enough. Gaza needs a major military incursion that will deal a major blow to Hamas. However, when we are dictated by the US and other countries, we will never achieve anything.

"Israel made a number of concessions and took some courageous steps, like in our pullout from the Gaza Strip and in the removal of all the settlements. Thus, we conveyed a message to the Palestinians that we mean what we say," Livni said. Idiot. After decades being completely surrounded by evil, have we not learnt anything? Listen carefully, Tzipile; THEY INTERPRET CONCESSIONS AS WEAKNESS! Rightfully so in this case, it would appear.

Sooner or later, Israel, you'll run out of land, and you, still, won't have peace. Why do it so agonizingly slowly in bits and pieces? Just hand 'em the whole frigging country and end thia protracted misery. In a few years, after they've run the place into the ground, you can go back and start the whole process all over. They don't just want land. They want your accomplishments, they want to usurp your history, and above all else, they want you dead. Their definition of "enough:" Always a little bit more.

God was missing for six days. On the seventh day, Michael, the archangel, found him, resting. He inquired of God "Where have you been?" God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction, and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look, Michael. Look what I've made." Archangel Michael looked puzzled, and said, "What is it?" "It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put Life on it in my image. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance." "Balance?" inquired Michael, "I'm confused." God explained, pointing to different parts of earth. "For example, this part will be a place of great opportunity and wealth, while other parts are going to be poor. Over there I've placed a continent of white people, and over there is a continent of black people. Balance in all things," God continued pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot, while this one will be very cold and covered in ice." The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a tiny land area and said, "What's that one?" "Ah," said God, "That's Israel, the most glorious place on earth, reserved for my Special People. My people are going to be courageous, handsome, intelligent, and humorous, and they are going to be found traveling the world. They will be extremely sociable, hardworking, high achieving, and they will be known throughout the world as My Special People. Michael gasped in wonder and admiration, but then asked, "But what about balance, God? You said there would be balance." God smiled, "Well, right over here- look closely now-is their beautiful capital. Wait till you see the idiots I put there."

I am beginning to think in my opinion that somehow people in this goverment are being payed off by the US or Europe somehow. Perhaps a wink and a nod after a massive withdrawal. Makes you wonder and if this is true isn't that treason?

Sad how politicians prostitute themselves in order to become popular with the media clique. Right calling, but wrong currency. Israel isn't for sale.

Does not last very long in office. Livni, look at history and learn. If you think you can give away land you are destined to end up like all the others. For two thousand you cried to get back Eretz Yisrael. Now you try to give it away to your enemies. "Somebody" is trying to tell you not to do that.....

that's why they have less kids

This terrorist gang in the knesset represents no one. The next government better try them all for treason and punish them. We will get back every square centimeter that these cowards give away.

you would ahve a situation where all the trees beutiful homes and industry would be destroyed by arabs and the slums that you live in would turn to paradise. that is what would happen if we switched. I was in Gush Katif many times before we left and one time after. What you people did to the land you inherited is utterly barbaric and discusting. We left you fruit trees, what happened to them? You picked the fruit before it was ripe just so your bretheren couldn't get it. You destroyed MILLIONS of dollars worth of Greenhouses that was bought for you from outside people. What did you do with them? Destroyed them... What makes you think that switching will improve your situation? You would only have a larger hell hole. the problem is with yourselves. You need to switch your attitues, not your homes.

Livni has done us all a big favor by clearly showing what a tragedy she would be if allowed to stay in power. She is taking and pushing the same old deadly drug called "Concession". She wants to bet your children's lives that MAYBE the Arabs won't use more land for terror, missiles and destruction. Is she so drugged or retarded that she is ignorant of her disaster called Gaza? I agree... throw her and the other 2 traitors out of office and force them to live in Sderot right near the border.

No way, what are you crazy?

it's what's inside themselves. They could have all the land in the world, and the results would be the same we see all over Asia and Africa, where they share the same ideology. It's only a matter of time for the PA children indoctrinated with hatred and violence, to turn one day on each other. It's already happening in Gaza, but this is nothing compared with what's coming when this generation grows up.

and an embarrassment before G-D shame on you your mother should slap your face

The hothouses were passed to the Palestinians in a $14 million deal brokered by former World Bank President James Wolfenson and several wealthy Jewish Americans.

You mean they destroyed things for which they had paid $14million and that makes it ok? Am I missing some sort of Pali logic???

To Carolyn and Linda: you are both right and terribly wrong. Look, w/o Egypt, neither Syria, nor hexbollah nor Hamas can defeat Israel, singularly or combined. Damage it, yes. Cause some deaths and injury, yes. Israel to date has defeated combined Arab NATIONS AND THEIR ARMIES. It would be a cake walk, if Israel fought with both hands and two feet. This is all political. The US wants 2 states..but not either one destroyed, so Israel is controlled. Lets admit that it has 200-400 high fusion bombs (plutonium), bunker busters and 5 Dolphin Class subs with cruise missiles. The Arabs also have arms to their eyebrows. So Israel is in a holding pattern..pending some diplomatic solution that's feasible and acceptable. So Livni. She's a good actress, playing Olmert's better (or worse) side. Israel must be flexible, but not too much so. She is a puppet for the P.M., who still has the ultimate power. Sorry if this disturbs you.

To LInda: I admit to being for the disengagement, as I thought Jews had no business in the Strip, where they had not been for decades. The further from Arabs the better in my book. However, a military presence would have sufficed...both to separate the population, and keep an eye on things military. Israel MUST LEARN FROM THIS EXPERIENCE. Thus, I like the Road Map. So far, the Arab side hasn't done one thing for peace, not one iota. Hamas has voided every ageement, and openly declares it's intention. They are playing Abbas off of Israel. Hezbollah doesn't double talk, just lives a delusion. Syria's Damascus would be destroyed, if it attacked with Scuds. But Israel will sometimes have to get tough(er)..and stop being politically correct. Livni is trying to sell Israel as wanting peace., but the Arabs don't. They have timeon their side, as they well know. Israel is playing for time..they will tire. I don't think so.

It wasn't Palestinian money. Just about every penny that comes into the PA is a donation, whether from the West or from the Arabs or Iran. There is no Palestinian economy and the way things are going, there cannot be one. All funds go into somebody's pockets or to purchase guns.

ONLY THEN WILL YOU GET PEACE!

Thanks!

Livni you are a TRAITOR