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Israel must reject Darfur refugees, rabbi says
Neta Sela
Published: 17.05.07, 07:39
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1. yeah right
eyal   (05.17.07)
we should also not accept germans comming here!!! during the WWII they fought against jews!!!! come on... if you dont wanna show your human being side (by accepting these poor people) at least use better arguments than "they fought against us in 48"
2. Morally Bankrupt
Michael Ben Raphael ,   Tel Aviv   (05.17.07)
How can a rabbi say this. These are people that have been terrorised by an Islamic Janjerweed Militia. We must help any people escaping genocide. Does he really believe that G-d would want us to turn them away? We are supposed to be "รค light unto the nations", and not the most cold hearted nation.
3. NO! We have to! they cant be left alone!!!!
Israel   (05.17.07)
4. Never Forget! bring them. its our duty
(05.17.07)
5. Is this rabbi really a Jew?
Lenny ,   Israel   (05.17.07)
6. Kiryat Arba rabbi Dov Lior
ben ,   singapore   (05.17.07)
Are you mad, remember you were once a stranger in a strange land. IF TRERE IS NO PLACE FOR THE DAFUR REFUGEE IN ISAREL THERE SHOULD NOT BE A PLACE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TOO. WARTIME OR NOT, THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO CLOSE THE DOOR OF COMPASSION ON PEOPLE WHO SEEK REFUGEE IN ISRAEL. DOV LIOR YOU ARE NOT JEWISH, DISQUALIFIED BY YOUR OWN SUGGESTION ! I DISAGREE WITH YOU AND YOUR SCHOOL OF THOUGHT !
7. Sad but true
Michelle L ,   San Diego   (05.17.07)
Hasn't Israel learned lessons from the past? Just watch how the Arab citizens of Israel have turned against the state.
8. This guy might be lost any refugees will
freedom ,   canada   (05.17.07)
be christians not muslims. Maybe the rabbi should do some research. How about taking some christian refugees from bethlehem as well?
9. *Sigh*...
Yoni ,   Toronto, Canada   (05.17.07)
Why do we let these dimwits represent us...? Is it *that* hard to find rationally capable religious people...?
10. Dov Lior can stick it where the sun doesn't shine
(05.17.07)
What an a-hole!
11. #8 - Do I need to remind you that Bishara is a Christian?
Richard   (05.17.07)
12. Israel MUST reject rabbi Dov Lior
josef cohen ,   bkk thailand   (05.17.07)
13. I do agree with the rabbi....
trumpeldor ,   eurabia   (05.17.07)
14. RABBI LIOR IS 100% RIGHT ! NO MORE SHTUIOT
(05.17.07)
15. Great Excuse
semsem ,   New York, USA   (05.17.07)
What a great and stupid excuse. Israel cannot accept millions but surely a few hundred.
16. Sudan did not fight in 1948. They were British
Laila ,   Montreal, Canada   (05.17.07)
Sudan did not fight Israel in 1948 because they were still under British rule. However in 1967 all the Sudanese Jews (a few hundred) were expelled and property nationalised. They also lost their nationality.
17. Dumb and naive people! Always listen to a rabbi!
(05.17.07)
The rabbis carry almost 6000 years of experience. They know who the enemies are.
18. what a pervert
joseph ,   chesterfield.u.k.   (05.17.07)
put him in prison with them and let them take care of him as he needs care,lots of it,
19. What does Rabbi Lior have to say...
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (05.17.07)
about the behavior of the local kiddies in Kiryat Arba?
20. Disgusting!!!
Drew ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (05.17.07)
This Rabbi is absolutely disgusting. Guess why not many people took in the Jews during the holocaust? Because they said the same thing about us! This guy is a shame to Judaism.....
21. "You shall love the stranger...."
Rav Reuven Carmel ,   Jerusalem, ISRAEL   (05.17.07)
As God teaches us, we have to love strangers, for we ourselves were strangers in Egypt. Interestingly, Rav Lior's reasoning for why Israel should not accept refugees from Darfur echoes almost exactly the words that the Egyptians used to justify their oppression of Israel in Egypt - that in the case of a war the refugees/minority might rise up and join the enemy.
22. Sick "rabbi"
Refugee   (05.17.07)
He has no compassion for the suffering of others.
23. re: Is this rabbi really a jew?
Lenny is my friend ,   israel   (05.17.07)
More so than you lenny boy, more so than you.
24. want Israel to help them? fine. BUT......
yonatan ,   Israel   (05.17.07)
They shouldn't be allowed to stay in Israel permanetly. This is a Jewish state and we shouldn't forget for whom it was re-esablished. Nor should they recieve free aid. The most Israel should do is help them seek asylum in another country. We have enough trouble in battling those who are trying to wipe us off the map.And are definitely doing a lot more for those refugees, who are from an enemy state, than what any other arab or muslim country has done, which was basically nothing. You can for example read past articles about the egyptians wanted to kill these Sudanese when they crossed into Egypt.
25. Refugees
Glenn ,   Canada   (05.17.07)
Canada has a lot of experience with refugees. We once took the Vietnamese. Today there are drug gangs formed by the offspring of those refugees. Same thing with the Central Americans. They fled the killings in their countries, settled here, and now many of them are running drugs in Canadian cities. And then other Middle Eastern and Asian and African refugees have also turned to crime. I'm not accusing everyone, but it's disappointing. The same people who inspire you with so much pity today may turn on you tomorrow.
26. This is not about what the rabbi says.
Howard ,   NY   (05.17.07)
Lots of other people share his views. I'm a secular and I agree that Israel is a country at war and cannot be taking care of refugees at the moment. Israel has its own: Sderot, Gush Katiff.... What we should be asking is why is Egypt mistreating them and sending them to Israel. That is one of the main issues, not whether we like rabbis or not. Why aren't other countries, including my own, doing their part. Why aren't the usual critics of Israel, such as the Muslim countries, helping out, since they have resources and space to welcome them. And what about the thousands that are still suffering in Darfur. Why aren't we doing anything at all about them. This genocide has been going on for several years. Stop blaming Israel. Stop blaming the rabbi. Israel didn't cause the genocide. A Muslim government did.
27. I agree we must reject them
Dani ,   Tel Aviv   (05.17.07)
Its very sad what is happening but in the end of the day they will identify themselves as muslims and will turn on the State of Israel. They are not Jewish and will not be accepted as such by the communities. Perhaps this generation appreciates what the State of Israel is doing for them however the next generation is a whole different story. We must send them back as soon as the situation allows it!!!
28. When Israel chooses to close its eyes and harden its heart!
Oreet ,   Colorado, USA   (05.17.07)
Perhaps I am over-dramatizing the situation by having titled this post as I have, however, the rabbi's statement is utterly ridiculous. First, whom is he to make such a judgement? But most importantly, particularly the Jews, who have only risen from the ashes of the Shoah, how dare they blind themselves to the plight of those whom are subjugated to evil at the hand of injustice merely under the pretense of ethnic disparities. Doesn't such sound quite familiar?! Hmmm, I wonder why...
29. Last time I checked
Persain CAT   (05.17.07)
Kiryat Arba was an illegal Jewish settlement which means Palestininan land occupied by Jewish fundamentalist terrorists (the Zionista). Therefore this character represents Zionist extremism, terror and racism.
30. Questions
charles ,   petach tikva   (05.17.07)
Rabbi [ ? ] a ] Do you remember the St Louis ? They were also rejected , and for many of them ended at Auschwitz . b ] Are those refugees guilty of what their grandparents did ? How can you issue such a statement ?
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