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Jews against war in Iraq
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Published: 21.05.07, 19:26
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1. left wing nuts
Eli ,   Brooklyn   (05.21.07)
"support of over 250 rabbis, educators and Jewish professionals." im going to guess theyre all either leftwing secular idiots or reform dummies
2. How much is 1000 out of 6 million?
Jew   (05.21.07)
Not much. And why is Ynet giving them free ad space?
3. polls
avi ,   ny   (05.21.07)
Who did they poll? chomsky, shapiro and finklestein? A poll before the 2004 elections stated only17% of Jews consider Israel when voting. Sounds suspiciously similar to th percent of Jews who vote republican or actually observe shavuos. Take a poll of how many american jews take off from work/school on shavuous and you'll notice it equals the support of the war in Iraq.
4. rabbis
avi ,   ny   (05.21.07)
none of the rabbis mentioned in the article possess the qualifications and training for smicha. You'd think that they'd mention a token real rabbi.
5. MEDDLING FOOLS!
BILL HANDEL ,   BROOKLYN, USA   (05.21.07)
"FOOLS RUSH IN, WHERE ANGELS FEAR TO TREAD."--MAKING ENEMIES IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND CONGRESS OF THE U.S.
6. COWARDS.
(05.22.07)
7. some news for these sillies: Judaism not a pacificist relig
dante ,   uk   (05.22.07)
while peace is an important aspiration of the Jewish people, Judaism is hardly a pacifist creed. there are times when one is commanded to fight. the idea that one's devotion to peace extinguishes every other value is alien to Judaism. it is infantile. it is foolish. and, it can, in these times, be suicidal.
8. Jews and the War in Iraq
Renee, NYV   (05.22.07)
The only reason the war was a mistake was because we didn't do it right. We should have followed the Powell Doctrine that basically says if you're going to fight a war, you'd better be prepared to give it all you've got. And people seem to be forgetting that Saddam Hussin was a monstrous sociopath who committed unspeakable crimes against his own people and bank-rolled the families of terrorists who murdered Israeli civilians, so his capture and subsequent execution were positive aspects of the invasion, as were the Iraqi elections. Unfortunately, it's sectarian violence that's ruled the day, but perhaps that says more about Islam than it does about whether our decision to go to war was ill-conceived.
9. Israel has nothing to gain from the Iraq'a fiasco
Glenn ,   Canada   (05.22.07)
On the contrary. Israel is being unfairly blamed for having influenced the US into that war. And now it may have to suffer from the American desperate measures to get out of Iraq. Israel will pay. Some of the results from the Iraq war are thousands of American lives lost for nothing, chaos in Iraq, the strengthening of the Shiite regime in Iran, and one of the greatest terrorism school on the planet. Its graduates will spread all over the Western world and cause mayhem among all of us. And those are only some of the negative results from this unfortunate war. Others include the weakening of the Bush presidency and hundreds of billions of dollars that could have been used to protect America from terror. Can anyone name one single benefit from this war, aside from the zillions made by unscrupulous American contractors and the political benefits reaped by Iran? And regarding Saddam, he was an angel compared with the thugs that will run Iraq in the years to come. And I'm a right winger. Let's face reality, folks.
10. most of the people are with the winner
sayha ,   jerusalem   (05.22.07)
american are not the winner in iraq .. so these 1000 are against the war // but sure it is not becouse of the day of torah desending in sina mount // it is the justice not related to winner
11. The war WAS a mistake. BUT, we can't back out now.
Zvi ,   USA   (05.22.07)
The war, and its aftermath, were ineptly planned and ineptly executed. Washington failed to convince Turkey to allow the northern half of the invasion to happen at all (the war started while the "northern" forces were still on their way down to Kuwait, and the result was that the Baathists had much more time to set up the subsequent looting and chaos and to hide weapons all over the place. Insufficient force was used for an actual occupation. And the aftermath was ineptly planned by rank amateurs. The soldiers, and the Iraqis themselves, deserved better thanthis. BUT - cutting and running now WON'T FIX ANY OF THAT. Instead, it will cause the collapse of Iraq. Our friends will see that we abandoned them to massacre, and our enemies will see that we are ready to quit and give them anything at all if they murder enough Americans. And so they will murder as many Americans as they can, all around the world, knowing that we'll cave in to whatever evil demand they make. Idiots. Withdrawal now would have a MASSIVE price tag.
12. warmonger jews created a self fullfilling prophecy in iraq
rami   (05.22.07)
it's well know that jews are divided in the states over this issue, unfortunately the warmonger group like wolfowitz & others happen to be the ones that have the most power while the more sane reasonable ones did not have as much pull....ironically, i think the war actually HURT israel whatever threatens israel's german shepard (jordan) or "stability dictators" is not good for israel, so what this idiotic group did, thinking they helped israel on the claim iraq threatened it will ultimately hurt it, sooner or later the puppet dominos around israel will fall & all the buffers against the wrath of the fundimentalists will seize to exist around israel...
13. When the Beast is at the door
Norm   (05.22.07)
Who do you think these idiots will blame? Not themselves...because they are so smart, they could not be wrong. I refused to rejoin my reform congregation.
14. Thanks for nothing!!
Rick ,   Open Range, USA   (05.22.07)
This disgusts me! Saddam would have distroyed Israel long ago had the US not interviened! Remember Scud missiles?? Remember the Patriot missile battries inside Israel keeping the Scuds out?? Remember Jordan saying any violation of it's airspace would be an act of war, yet did nothing to Saddam when the Scuds rained down? If the US had not kept Saddam penned in from 1990 to the invasion five years ago, he would have attacked Israel. Remember how he paid USD $25,000 to anyone who would commit suicide/murder of any Israeli citizen??? When I read about this kind of crap, it makes me want to encourage my country to withdrawl alright. Withdrawl all US support from Israel.
15. 77% of American Jews Delusional
Mike Jefferson ,   Washington, D.C.   (05.22.07)
77% of American Jews identify themselves as Reform or Conservative and they are invariably Democratic Kool-Aid drinkers. These limosine liberals just don't get it and are more interested in going to the country club for shrimp cocktail than understanding the threats surrounding them.
16. Jews need to stay out it!
Antonio ,   Haifa   (05.22.07)
Iraq is not our country, and this whole thing isn't our business.
17. 14 - these were American Jews. How is aid to Israel related?
NL ,   Israel   (05.22.07)
These Jews were speaking about the war in the context of Judaism, not in the context of the State of Israel. So what does the opinion of some American Jews have to do with US aid to Israel? Don't conflate all American Jews with the state of Israel. American Jews and Israelis often have differing opinions on security issues (see Lebanon war). If you would have read the article, you would have noticed they only had signatures of 1,000 Jews (a very small percentage of American Jews), suggesting that even American Jews are split on this issue. To suggest that all American Jews are represented by such a small population is ignorant and prejudiced, as is automatic association between the opinions of American Jews with those of Israeli Jews.
18. #17 NL of Israel
Rick ,   Open Range, USA   (05.23.07)
I did read the article, thank you very much. Since the gist of your talkback was mostly to insult me, I will not concede any point you may have made. While I may be very ignorant of Israeli politics, I am keenly aware of American politics and the demographics therein.
19. Gotta love the Hubris
Trevor Brooks ,   Huron Park, Canada   (05.23.07)
On all the talkbacks on YNET and Haaretz all I ever see is people attacking liberals. It is actually pretty funny how those that attack liberals don't try to articulate and defend a position, but rather to just attack liberals and blame liberals and secularists for all the worlds ills. It's hilarious. Gotta love those blinders, "If you don't believe the same right-wing, conservative, ultra-religious doctrine I do you are nothing more than a fool, idiot, moron, dummy, defeatist, traitor". But how can they be blamed, it's a well-known fact that reality has a liberal-bias.
20. How about Jews against "Palistinians" taking over Israel?.
(05.23.07)
21. #19 - Trevor - You've done exactly the same thing
Richard   (05.23.07)
you accuse those who attack liberals of doing. You haven't articulated or defended a position either. You have just attacked them. Sure, some talkbackers are just venting, but, hey, why don't you set the tone and preach through example?
22. i support american soldiers and bush fully.i agree with rick
100%. ,   moran israel   (05.23.07)
23. What happens when Israel needs aid and
jason white ,   afula,israel   (05.23.07)
weapons in the next war? Will the average American remember the filth of jaw? These are the enemies of Israel,the U.S.,the war on terror and democracy.
24. This Jew supports the War in Iraq
Stephen Shayes ,   Washington DC   (05.24.07)
and supports the President. Most American Jews might not like the war, but it is these same Jews are liberal. hence by definition their opinion is irrelevant. Go Fred Thompson for President
25. Steven Shaves (Post No. 24)
Johnny Weintraub ,   Sugar Land, Texas US   (05.25.07)
During the First Persian Gulf War (1991), my cousin lived in Givatayim, near Tel Aviv. He told me that his building suffered damage from a scud missile, and that luckily they were not killed or injured. Apparently the pacifist Rabbis conveniently forgot about the dangers that Saddam Hussein posed for Israel and Israelis.
26. BRAINLESS US JEWS
Michel SLONIMSKI ,   Paris, France   (05.25.07)
70 % of US Jews are either atheists or Conservative and Reform. 70 % are damned, brainless, liberals. This is it.
27. CONSERVATIVE RABBI
Eliot Vernet ,   Montreal, Quebec   (05.25.07)
The American Jewish University is Conservative. So is Prof Aryeh Ziegler and the other "rabbis" mentioned here. Remember : the same nuts who support abortion, gender politics, ordination for gays. Stop that nonsense, please.
28. Jews against the war in Iraq
David Powell ,   Everett, Wa. USA   (05.25.07)
It is unfortunate that there a certain segment of our Jewish countryman in the US does not support their country's effort to destroy a terrorist al-Quaida element in Iraq who's sole purpose is to destable Iraq and whole middle east inorder to destroy Israel and the US. Every one 's lives and survival is dependant on it.
29. Jews against the war
aram ,   NY City   (05.26.07)
The war in Iraq is a tiny but indispensible step in the ultimate crushing of Islamic imperialism. The Jews will be an important part of the West's final victory or hapless casualties along the way.
30. Trevor #19
aram ,   nyc   (05.26.07)
It's not that you're an idiot because your not conservative; you're not conservative because you're an idiot.
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