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Spark from the golden calf
Yitzhak Kakun
Published: 22.05.07, 22:08
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1. To ALL and to All the Journalist at YNet Thank You
ben ,   singapore   (05.23.07)
At Mount Sinai, tradition tells, there was no echo. Torah penetrates and is absorbed by all things, because it is their essence.There is no place where it does not apply, no darkness it does not illuminate,nothing it cannot bring alive. Happy Shavout Atilla of Turkey, Happy Shavout to you my freind :) ben singapore : - )
2. Kol Ha'Kavod to Rabbi Meir Azari !
RCA ,   USA   (05.23.07)
of Tel Aviv's BEIT DANIEL REFORM SYNAGOGUE. All should go, visit, and see for themselves what Modern Reform Judaism is all about. Many will be surprised that it is not at all what they have been misled to believe by detractors. Prepare yourselves for an uplifting modern day Torah experience both educational and exciting! Understand the Torah anew as it was meant to be, for Jews in todays world.
3. TRUTHFUL and INSIGHTFUL articles NEEDED.
RCA ,   USA   (05.23.07)
about Reform Judaism are needed. REFORM JUDAISM is a wonderful and beautiful alternative to orthodoxy for todays modern Jews seeking to lead a communal Jewish spiritual life. The product of the highest contemporary biblical scholarship, it respects the intelligence of the individual Jew, yet it brings deep insight into the oldest traditions, while bringing new meaning, and, presents the newest discoveries in science and knowledge, their relevence, and their moral applications for our time. It is MORAL, SPIRITUAL, HISTORIC, INSPIRING, PRACTICAL, LIVEABLE, and RECEPTIVE. Of course, it doesn't hurt to have a great Rabbi.
4.  TO HELP THE CAUSE
RCA ,   USA   (05.23.07)
of Reform Judaism in Israel, perhaps Rabbi Meir Azari of BEIT DANIEL REFORM SYNAGOGUE in TEL AVIV, might gather, collect, assemble, or write and submit insightful, articles on Reform Judaism that receptive, knowledgeable, and maybe the not so knowledgeable, may contemplate, in the same way that Ynet receives and publishes from that other Rabbi. When there is some proper understanding, people cannot not be positively affected .
5. REFORM JUDAISM BRINGS FREEDOM TO JEWS
RCA ,   USA   (05.23.07)
to believe in ways that are relevent to todays modern Jewish sensibilities. It springs from the past to influence today and encompass the future. A BREATH OF FRESH AIR... IT UNTIES THE FETTERED MIND AND OPENS IT TO THE SPIRITUAL POSSIBILITIES !
6.  IS IT JEWISH ?
RCA ,   USA   (05.23.07)
Of course Reform is Jewish !!! No Orthodox proclamations can negate it's past lineage up to today. REFORM has sprung from Orthodoxy and was shaped and molded by Orthodox minds to transmit TORAH to the ever changing FUTURE. This, also to adapt to the cultures of the world where it may be found.
7. to ben from singapore
bint ,   jerusalem   (05.23.07)
we need to listen to the original sound not the echo .. i think religion is the origin and true its echo must be in the heart and mind // but if there is not heart or mind or it is an empty endless space // no echoes or original sounds will be presented // i think your friend attilla from turkey has another point than yours .. and iam a friend also but i have a different openions than both of you // , i like to listen to people from the same place // as they see better than you faraway in singapore or turkey
8. to bint from Jerusalem
ben ,   singapore   (05.23.07)
The original sound is in my heart and also in my mind. The SPARK of SINAI is received even today .I tie it around my left hand and on my head between my eyes. About my friend Atilla, he is a good man, this I know.Love him more and more .: - ) bint - Your opinion being different, I welcome that, believe me when you see me arguing over two opposing view with another jew, be rest assured there will be a third opinion. Look I am a very stubborn and a stiff head and neck. : - ) - Faraway from Jerusalem ? Never. Jerusalem will alway be near to my soul.I went to Jerusalem many times but I saw the exact opposite of the Ruah and Intention of the Torah.I was disappointed with Jerusalem . But then I know deep inside me ,the whole universe is the the inner dwelling of G-d. The One Who Is says : I will return you to your place. and cause you to dwell securely You shall be Mine and I will be yours. I will give you a single heart and a single path : awe of Me; and in this way will things be well with you and your children - Bint- I lack nothing I am blessed abundantly even in my limitations and disobedience : -) The important thing is to keep the heart and mind clean for inner dwelling. The heart and mind is the place that every jew must live to be ONE in any moment any place. When you close your eyes and listen carefully from the heart. G-d returns you to a place, of inner dwelling. You are not moved from one spot to another place but are suddenly aware that this spot was the very spot for which you have been searching all your life. the Siddur is the essence of the whole communication, once engaged no truning back, I got engaged in fact got married to G-d.The Place is in you not on any physical place with exception to the Holi of Holies. Until such awakening occurs you are STILL part of G-d's People be it you are in Jerusalem or NOT. You see the Jewish Soul is very special connection to the CREATOR : - ) Read the book of Jeremiah, until this awakening occurs, you are not yet part of G-d's people nor G-d truly your G-d. Until this awakening, you continue to worship idol of self, "the gods" of power, name , fame, control and permanence ( the Gods). I have see that and many failed because the rely on " the god's". when their idols fail they see before their very eye, life being crushed beneath the weight of their ignorance,injustice and cruelty, so much that one can see the invalid nature of the idols and they turn to G-d. Even the Jews in Jerusalem must know and turn to G-d but away from "the gods ". Dont follow the spark of the golden calf but take the SPARK OF SINAI - the law, keep it, come this side because the Torah is with us.Cross Over ! bint , awaken to your true self and stay in that awarness, the heart and mind will open and receive, It is beyond Jerusalem as a place. Is here any place there is no G-d. Davis said..' even if I sleep in hell, You are there Lrd .." Today in this world and in Jerusalem there are many "golden calf" SPARK AWAY FROM THE GOLDEN CALF. :) Listen, you have right to your opinion, Sire : - ) About Atilla - Let Atilla speak and let him say his mind, he has the right to his opinion-pro or contra ;- ) bint see ya around : - ) cheers ben blessed Singapore : - )
9. HAPPY SHAVUOT TO ALL JEWS !!!
RCA ,   USA   (05.23.07)
May the goodness and blessings that Torah brings follow you all. WE ARE ONE BIG FAMILY IN THE WORLD Kol Ha' KAVOD ! ONE PEOPLE !
10. O well to all that 82 emails ASKING .....if
ben ,   singapore   (05.23.07)
I am not a REFORM ! I will never be REFORMED I am a stubborn ORTHODOX but not religious. I am a rebel from day one, strange I love the Lrd G-d of Yisrael ALONE ! Now if my rabbis hears this he might consider giving me a Slap on behalf of my mother : - ) Now stop FLOODING my INBOX , STUPIDs : - )
11.  THIS IS A GREAT OCASSION !
RCA ,   USA   (05.23.07)
Thank G-D for Moses ! Thank Moses for G-D ! We do a little Davening ! We read a little from TORAH ! I sip delicious wine from the vine of G-D. HASHEM is happy for me, and I for HE / SHE My wonderful wife and I...We dance ! We are Jews to the world ! To the Jews of the world... MAZEL TOV !!!!!!!!!!!
12. LOVE...IS ALL............THERE IS
RCA ,   USA   (05.23.07)
13. Happy Shavout
Atilla Karagözoğlu ,   Istanbul / Turkey   (05.23.07)
I love the words below from Ben, Singapore; "The SPARK of SINAI " "I will return you to your place. and cause you to dwell securely You shall be Mine and I will be yours ..." *** Ben..Ben...Ben :) I will always love you my (MY) brother. Kiss mom's hands for me. Atilla Karagözoğlu
14. Make your way to the mountain where you can.
John ,   USA   (05.23.07)
It is a city that binds all Israel (world) together in friendship. It is not just a physical city, It is a concept of a heavenly Jerusalem, as was displayed in the 1,000 years, the Holy Temple functioned as the heart of Israel / people during exile. Who takes the Mountain UNDER fear, or who climbs it? The whole world cannot fit in a physcial Jerusalem, but it can as the spiritual center of heaven, of light and inspiration for all of the world. The Jerusalem on this mountain, never forces its weight upon the weak of its family, but gives them strength when and where they need it. Is. 2:2-3; “And it shall come to pass, in the last days, that the mountain of the L-rd’s house shall be established at the top of the all the mountains, and shall be exalted above all the hills; and all of the nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the L-rd, and to the house of the G-d of Jacob, and he will teach us of his ways, and we shall walk in his paths; for out of Zion shall go forth Torah, and the word of G-d from Jerusalem” There is so much bad and evil in the world today. Alcohol / drug addictions, child raping, violence, dirty blood money used to support peoples and religious institutions for some who appear to hold the mountain, and keep out of fear. All this because people still can't get rid of their guilt, fear of being burried under the mountain and never getting to the top.
15. RCA, G-d needs you to preach that Gospel to the Christians
John ,   USA   (05.23.07)
It always wasn't the WAY it is today. G-d can use that type of love. Thats what ___________(fill in the blank) tried to bring to the world, but the kingdom got lost. They still love G-d and want to follow His ways, it just got lost in the translation. Some went back into or held onto magic blood and flesh, and god flesh image(their mountain of burial)...but they are not alone in this (it is removal of animal soul). A remez can be seen in Gen. 15 (I think) where Abram asks "how will I know"? G-d answers in sacrifice in seperation of the animal soul (self) and WE WILL SEE and HE WILL BE SEEN.
16. #15- To John, USA
RCA ,   USA   (05.23.07)
I think most Christians will remain content with their own modes of transmission and expression. Until people, Jews and Christians included, can see beyond the boxes that they are in, that are of their own making, they will continue to get only short fleeting glimpses of THE PRESENCE and /or THE PLAN. Of course, looking beyond our religious structures is no easy thing to do, and these structures often serve us very well, by at least pointing us in the proper direction. Some seem to veer of course here and there though. That is the main reason for looking beyond structure. Though these fleeting glimpses are a good thing. Once there is a glimpse, it is easy to understand why an eyefull is desired, so to say. Hashem is That UNIVERSAL ALL , THE ONE, HE / SHE , PROVIDENCE, and expresses universally in the same way that TORAH has a universal message for humankind. Some listen, some don't. Some get it, some won't. That is the way it is, and it is good. Each comes to the table with a different vessel to be filled, or a different understanding to be REFINED. Though all need enough SPARKS to create a FLAME in order to bring more LIGHT. In this lifetime, some will be in the dimmest of LiGHT, but , that is OK. There may be other lifetimes in which to gather more SPARKS.
17. They care not for truth but vanity
Josh   (05.24.07)
This article is no more than a defense for breaking Torah by pointing at another group and saying they are breaking it. The finger pointing has nothing to do with reality. The reality is "you shall not add a word or take away a word from Torah. Dev 13:1 Dev 4:2 Our "Fathers" (Abraham Iaasac and Jacob) did not do these rabbinic rituals that cause people to break Torah. Our sages is nothing more than saying a generation of wacky Rabbis before this group (chicken's milk, machitzahs, covering womens hair, Christian noblemen atire, kippahs, etc.). We know from the prophets that the San Hedrin were doing majic (70 men of Temple) Why should we believe men who put their faith in the San Hedrin of old-if they missed the fact that the San Hedrin stole Jewish soles (according to the prophets)? Torah b'peh is a sin as it adds to Torah and makes it more costly than it should be to follow the rules. It also opens the door to add to Torah including pagan rituals and majic Babalon customs. This writer probably thinks it ok to say G-d commanded us to light Shabbat candles, yet G-d NEVER said to do any such thing. Pagans pointing at pagans while the children of Israel are mislead into sinning when they do not want to. Read Chapter 13 of Ezekiel. Fact is pouring water on a stranger is the same as raising your hand against them. It is assault and fullfills one of the curses for sinning against Torah. " ..and the children shall turn an evil eye against their parents" One G-d One Love and One face of Torah -the truth. Read the pashoot. We don't need the leadership to add to our sins.
18. walking in integrity
m   (05.24.07)
was reading about Joseph, long before the 'law' was given to moses. A man away from his family, a man alone in a big cruel world. Yet this man had written on his heart a knowledge of wrong and right. And when a foreigners wife tried to entice him into sin. He refused and resisted strongly. Who would have 'seen' what he did? who would have commended him? He actually got into jail for doing right. This man shows us true integrity to God. As does the 'Jew" Jesus Christ who was sold short by his brothers too, and who refused to step back from a path he knew would bring a righteous standing to many.Even at great sacrifice to himself.
19. You be blessed....There is hope for me yet.
John ,   USA   (05.24.07)
There are certain things I suppose that are not made known to some people because "they just can't handle it". For instance, how the pope has recently admitted that he agrees with scholarship now believes Yeshua was most likely from one of the essense or cross essene (pharisee / essene, saducee essene etc. etc.), becaseu he celebrated an essene Passover with the disciples before the now Passover.. But yet he still SEALS the Vatican library to the outside? People do gain strength in numbers (I guess it is human nature), but sometimes (particularly within fundamentalism) I have noticed that people need assurance (by a variety of systems), that what they think is correct, and they go about this by trying to make people (an example would be some Christian recruiting etc.) think just like them. They think; "how can I be wrong, when so many people think and believe just like me?" Or there are at times where a small group (golden calf) can influence the entire nation (or world), and everyone will suffer. The prophets had an internal answer to that tendancy for themselves. The closer they were to G-d, the more they knew they would suffer with the people, so speak what is of G-d.
20. In the spirit of Abraham
john ,   USA   (05.24.07)
I forgot to mention. When we sacrifice, we always open ourseleves up to those who would prefer to carry us away....keep chasing those birds away.
21. Josh, RCA we think alot alike on some things.
John ,   USA   (05.25.07)
There are some of us who are hidden amongst the overgrown and weeds. Sort of like modern day Karaites or Nazarenes, etc. Walking with G-d peoples, don't need another man to give them assurance, they ask G-d. The faith based "systems", sometimes negate WORD for what they call faith. They sometimes overly "literally" use the Holy Scriptures in micro bites, becasue they claim the masses can't understand it. For instance how long can I continue to tell people that it isn't about magical blood and flesh that magically wipes your sin away (assurance system for death to our animal nature)....but yet they are still stuck in god appeasement, and they "cover" this with micro bites of what the Tanach says. G-d requires sacrifice of animals or a God- MAN (so the Roman Church taught) so I won't go to pagan underworld type theology? Magic animals? Magic water? Magic prayer systems? All because they still have their golden calfs (idolatry) to put to death? Fear from guilt, prejudices their minds, and what the pagans taught on firey torment in the underworld. They ask in mind; "will we ever see G-d"? If I put this animal to sacrifice, G-d will come back and dwell amongst my people and give me this assurance? If I take this special bath, G-d will come and stay with me and give me this assurance? It has always been about our GUILT from our animal soul which interferes with the spiritual fellowship with G-d (our assurance). This is LIFE (knowing G-d). The life of the ANIMAL has always been in the flesh and blood (no conscience), but the life of man is in the SPIRIT connection with G-d. People are still waiting to physically die, and have reborn flesh that does not sin....this is what they think LIFE is. As you can see (maybe?), I am not really as people consider Christian, most of the "church" theology was just an attempt to run and hide from G-d, by taking of Israel, by surplanting it, or seperating it (as modern day evangelicals now do).
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