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Argentine Jewry's dark secret
Rona Kupferboim
Published: 25.05.07, 15:43
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1. great mickey mouse story
uyalbert ,   canada   (05.25.07)
It is unfortunate seeing a writer that has to pay his rent creating a nonsense story and Zap! shocking sensationalist # wow!,, should be a winner, How is this kind of journalism called? Picks a few names here and there and ulala,even they were deported to somewhere as if a Government has the right to deport somebody, and specially to deport this body to somewhere, as in Napoleon times. Pitty writer.
2. The Anti-Semites Thank You
Josh ,   USA   (05.25.07)
Great work Ilan Sheinfeld. This will appear on every anti-semitic web-site in the world shortly. This is in the same league as Professor Toaff's "Bloody Passovers" and Israel Shahak's many anti-Jewish books. I hope you enjoy being on the lecture circuit with David Duke, David Irving, and every other prominant reprobate anti-Semite. I hope it was worth it.
3. Guess what...
Josh Bairey   (05.25.07)
So, eastern eurepeans have at least one reason for their antisemism. Jews traded black slaves as well as slavs (in the early middle ages - hence the world slave - it is derived directly from "slav"). Few centuries later they were still trafficking women and girls from eastern europe - much like criminals do it nowadays - making an offer of legal job (not saying a word about prostitution). And now another etymological puzzle - why a common word in Latin America for a prostitute is 'la polacca'. I'll leave the answer to you, but you should simultaneously ask yourself a one question - are we really (or: were some of us, some time ago) without any guilt for the eastern european antisemitism. I wouldn't like to be percieved as an apologist for that bastards that have participated in Holocaust, rather just to stimulate some cogitation.
4. Argentian Jewry feels so awful about this
Ynet hits again ,   London , UK   (05.25.07)
They outlawed these pimps most harshly-in every possible way: "no" to their money, no entering Shull, not even sharing their cementeries So why is YNET publishing such a "secret"? A couple hundred of criminals in a half million community- does not need to make a bad name for all the other tzdadikim Now Ynet needs to get another group of Jews persecuted thanks to their enlightened journalism
5. A Disgusting Chilul HaShem
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (05.25.07)
And one that should have remained buried. All you do by reporting something like this now is give the anti-Semites more ammunition. Shame on the bastards then and shame on you now.
6. jewish pimps and businessman
kooljew ,   usa   (05.25.07)
this happened. gwet over it! the jewish community is so corrrupted on materialism it is disgusting. how many israeli ministers are in jailor on trial?--- how many people like marc rich, ivan boeskyetc exist in our community and then we accept their money for buildings universities, etc. i for one am disgusted, how about teaching less torah and more business ehtics and tzedukah. btw im very active in the israeli community in los angeles- a disgusted jew
7. #3: Why are you reasoning the anti-Semitism?
Anna ,   Canada   (05.25.07)
The story tells about European Jewish girls and women. There is no word about Slavs. These unfortunate women couldn’t send a letter of protest to their parents in order to stop the treachery. Why the world didn’t create the term like anti-Italianism, antirussism, anti-Arabism, else? The Italian mafia was powerful enough to hold Europeans and Americans for a long time out of breath. Russians are also making a big impulse on the economies of the most developed countries. But yet you are knitting the knots of Antisemitism on bases of this dark page in the history of the Jewish internal historical events. There is no one nation on the earth that doesn’t have an embarrassment and shameful period. But yet you are looking for another excuse.
8. Once upon a time in Argentina
Damir ,   Russia   (05.25.07)
This reminded me of works by Isaac Babel "How it was done in Odessa". Well, Benzion Krik WAS a bandit, wasn't he? Admittedly with a style. Apparently, Jews can excel at crimes too.
9. the story is true
oscar ,   buenos aires - argen   (05.25.07)
I live in Buenos Aires and I can assert that the story is true. The correct organization´s name was ZWI MIGDAL. Goggle it and take a look. The named street is JUNIN and not JONIN, honoring a Simón Bolivar´s battle.
10. I believe that this is a story that needed
Joe ,   Ohio, USa   (05.25.07)
published. Why? Because from all that I have read over the years, the habit of some uncrupoulous Jews to traffic in humans is something that still goes on, in of all places Israel it's self. With the Jewish peoples sad history how can the goverment quietly sit back and allow it to still go on? While I to some degree understand some posters desire to not see this article posted. It needs to be, so the sins of the past are not again repeated. I hope that last phrase rings a bell with some readers here.
Jennifer Blake ,   USA   (05.25.07)
I thought before coming to Israel that the Jews are the chosen people and above it. Not any more. Apparently they are much worse than pretend to be. Poor Russian women even cannot complain: they don't know how, to whom and what to expect. Israely society is very angy, cruel, indifferent. Very timely book. It may help to stop it. Thank you.
12. zwi migdal
Edy Burak ,   aventura U.S   (05.25.07)
13. My great aunt....
shoshana ,   portland, Oregon   (05.25.07)
When my grandmother, of blessed memory, got off the boat at Ellis Island, her sister went on to Argentina. She was never heard from again...... What a dreadful/shameful part of our history....
14. Its always the few in any nation that mess things for
majority ,   Alan SA   (05.25.07)
15. whine away but its all true! so why hide it?
sally forth   (05.25.07)
because it disturbs your little fantasy about Eastern European Jewry! on the contrary sing it from the mountain tops because as we all know better to be honest and show blemishes than try to hide them and be santimonious self-righteous fools!
16. Argentine Jewish History
Daniel ,   New Jersey, USA   (05.25.07)
I think Ilan knows that the truth, no matter how bad or sensitive, should come out. That's the main difference that separates us Jews from our enemies. Well done on a tough choice.
17. Supply and Demand
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (05.25.07)
There are not too many nations, people or religions that don't have some sort of dirt in their past. Welcome to humanity! As for prostitution, well, if it weren't for the demand, the business of supply wouldn't be so lucrative. So, who's worse? Those who demand or those who supply? I do, however, resent the generally accepted idea that prostitution is the oldest profession in the world. Somebody had to beg for it first. The Arts & Entertainment channel had an interesting program with respect to sex throughout history. An amusing segment pertained to the Victorian imports to the New World. It seems that when these proper Victorian ladies were abducted and "had horrible things done to them by the native Indian savages," something didn't go quite as expected. A lot of the women, after they had been rescued by their Victorian husbands and fathers, promptly took off for the Indian wigwams again. Maybe what one Tonto Silverstein told me once is correct: Jews and Indians do make the best lovers. :-)
18. Just one more thing.....
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (05.25.07)
If there were only 4000 working girls in those 2000 houses of ill repute, those establishments must have been some kind of ultra exclusive. If not, where'd they keep the rest of them?
19. Prostitution today - Another story
Otter ,   Canada   (05.25.07)
Joining a global trend, the fundamentalists have added another way to dehumanize women and girls: buying and selling them for prostitution. Exact numbers of victims are impossible to obtain, but according to an official source in Tehran, there has been a 635 percent increase in the number of teenage girls in prostitution. The magnitude of this statistic conveys how rapidly this form of abuse has grown. In Tehran, there are an estimated 84,000 women and girls in prostitution, many of them are on the streets, others are in the 250 brothels that reportedly operate in the city. The trade is also international: thousands of Iranian women and girls have been sold into sexual slavery abroad. The head of Iran’s Interpol bureau believes that the sex slave trade is one of the most profitable activities in Iran today. This criminal trade is not conducted outside the knowledge and participation of the ruling fundamentalists. Government officials themselves are involved in buying, selling, and sexually abusing women and girls. From an article by Dr. Donna M. Hughes , Professor, Carlson Endowed Chair in Women’s Studies at the University of Rhode Island.
20. is a book in argentina that is exactly the same?
beni ,   haifa-israel   (05.25.07)
i read a book named -la polaca- in spanish . the book is exactly the same the writer mirtha shalom she is a journalist. in argentina is plenty of information about this horfull story, books and articles from yeas ago.whar kind ofinvestigation was hirshfeld doing? is hard to anderstand.. .........
21. i was told that some of migdal criminals run away to israel
gabriel ,   tel aaviv,israel   (05.25.07)
y was told that some of migdal criminals ran away to israel and become owners of insurence companys.
22. to #21 That's funny....
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (05.26.07)
23. Zwi Migdal (Rosario's city in Argentina)
ricardo ,   patagonia argentina   (05.26.07)
The story is true
24. Tel Aviv is like Sdom and Amora
Rami ,   NJ   (05.26.07)
I've never seen anything like it in all the world, and I've travelled through much of it
25. "Jewish theater & community balls"
Yisraeli   (05.26.07)
"Jewish theater & community balls" Well that pretty much sums up of who the story is speaking of. No God fearing Jew let alone religeous Jew would be going to Jewish theatres and balls. Bugsy Segal was a Jew right? So did that fact taint the whole Jewish people? No. For the author to have spent 11 yrs researching this drek which ultimately can only be used as fuel for anti semitism, what was he thinking? Unless of course hes one of the above mentioned Jews, which he certainly appears to be, he wouldnt care.
26. The hypocrisy is still here
Vitaliy ,   Brooklyn, NY   (05.26.07)
While on the YNet we get regular notices from the religious how not to sin, many of their number still go to prostitutes and pimps based in Israel. And then, they have the balls to talk to us about G-d and morals. Don't make me laugh! Israel is one of the world's (certainly among democracies) worst human trafficking countries. This is not anti-Semitism, it is objective assessment.
27. Sholem Aleikhem had a story about
Alex ,   NYC,USA   (05.26.07)
a man from Buenos Aires who seems like a very nice person.His profession is implied at the very end. So this was known when it was happening so this was known back when it was going on.And its mentioned in the History of the Jews by Paul Johnson.Its nothing new.
28. More on the Zwi Migdal Society
Dina Tamar ,   Toronto, Canada   (05.26.07)
There's a lot more information on the Zwi Migdal Society on The Awareness Center's web page
29. I read in UK paper that Albanians have 75% of UK brothels
Alan ,   SA   (05.26.07)
Even though mother Theresa was Albanian by birth . Every nation has a special monopoly at a point in time .
30. Dear Daniel
Ilan Sheinfeld   (05.26.07)
Indeed, the theme of my book is not the Jewish prostitution but the Jewish memory. What interests me is the way subjective memory is combined with collective Jewish memory.
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