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2 children killed by IDF fire, Palestinians say
Ali Waked
Published: 01.06.07, 16:13
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31. #20. Same tactics by arabs?
hahaha   (06.01.07)
Arabs say : two children killed. Ynet : "Arabs say two children killed" What do you want, moron?
32. it's frustrating...
Greg ,   New York City   (06.01.07)
to fight against an enemy that puts children on the front lines and straps bombs on to them. and then those children are killed and of course the world sees this and their hatred for all things Jewish and Israel is VALIDATED...where as before, they hated us for no reason. and now they use the whole "i'm not anti-semite, i'm anti-zionist" argument to cloack their anti-semitism. anti-zionist=the belief that Jewish people shouldn't have a homeland=you hate Jews. period. end of sentence. end of discussion.
33. Hamas Graduation Ceremony
Darren ,   Tampa, FL USA   (06.01.07)
Check out the video of a Palestinian Hamas KINDERGARTEN graduation ceremony from MemriTV. It is found at: http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1468wmv&ak=null I don’t recall my kindergarten ceremony being like this, we did not have such “cute” military camouflaged outfits with imitation AK-47s and masks over our little faces shouting jihad! Transcript from Video: Following are excerpts from a report on Hamas’ Al-Aqsa TV about a graduation ceremony of kindergartens of the Islamic Association in Gaza. The report was aired on May 31, 2007. Host: We will now take a short break to present the Palestinian childhood, and some scenes from the celebration in the kindergartens of the Islamic Association. We followed this ceremony of the graduation of the 29th class of the Islamic Association's kindergartens. Let's watch the report, and then we'll be back to complete the discussion. Girls’ show [...] Host: All the best. Stay with us to watch this performance by the children of Palestine. Boys’ show Boys: Allah Akbar. Praise be to Allah. Allah Akbar. Praise be to Allah. Allah Akbar. Praise be to Allah. Allah Akbar. Praise be to Allah. Who is your role model? The Prophet. Who is your role model? The Prophet. What is your path? Jihad. What is your path? Jihad. What is your most lofty aspiration? Death for the sake of Allah. What is your most lofty aspiration? Death for the sake of Allah.
34. A double standard. Terrorists are terrorists.
Gary A. MD ,   Boston USA   (06.01.07)
What a double standard! The IDF has nothing to be ashamed of. Arabs do this, for this exact reason, to get it in the press. They send their children out with bombs and guns, and then they complain if they are killed. But what would occur if these kids had killed many IDF soldiers, then the Arab anti-semites would be celebrating!
35. This is Palis. Parenting
Jellybean ,   Chicago   (06.01.07)
Where are the parents??? Why on earth would there be "scrap metal" along a fence where the IDF would be? and If the "Children" saw the IDF there why go there? Yes it is sad that the kids got shot and killed, but they should have not been there and the Parents should have watched them.
36. To # 21
Jellybean ,   Chicago   (06.01.07)
Yes you can! Parents are responsible for their Children. Period! The kids should have not been by that fence! I have a 5 year old daughter, and believe me I am with her when she is outside, when I go in she goes in..its that simple. These parents...were no where to be seen and were proberly at home planning another terrorist attack and to busy to watch their kids!
37. The talkbacks over here ....
Abdel ,   Nablus, Palestine   (06.01.07)
Have officially put the final nails in the coffin of my believe that peace is possible between our people, BRAVO !!, and this is coming from someone who was part of a palestinian-israeli peace group in two different stages of his life,... i stood along side of israelis in front of the kinesset with signs calling for peace, shoulder to shoulder, no difference bewteen arab or jew... Yet today as we see, not a shred of remorse or humanity. ....i hope you become poor, unemployed, stateless, and homeless one day to know what life is all about! instead of passing judgement on kids and their parents trying to sell some trash for a shequil or two... this conflict has took one more step further, yet in the wrong direction ...it was before about the land, arab and jew, lately it become jew vs muslim, and now thanks to blind imprisonmnet of our people by your governmnet, it has also became rich vs poor. a big round of applause for the palestinian and israelis right-wingers who brought us this far, one more round of applause for the merciful christian crusaders on this site and elsewhere...... keep on doing this, it is sure going to pay off.!!!......keep on judging people from a far,,,, that is also helpful !!!!.............the sensor will take out my post if i write what i'm thinking of at this moment.....!!! reading talkbacks on this site and others is like being stabbed in the heart everyday,,, nothing but lies and half-truths, that is what this conflcit has become... a big demonstration of what is ugly in people...with no end in site! logic, understanding, compassion and honesty are dead, and from all sides........ Isragirl, you are the only one with a heart here... thanks,
38. Kyle 29
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (06.01.07)
No Kyle, Im in Canada completing my PhD degree and hailing my honourable army for its brave and honoroubale battle. You on the other hand are an idiot who can't use his brain for half a sec to distinguish between biased and objective reporting. You who resort to name calling are nothing but a loser with nothing constructive to say
39. Stanley 28
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (06.01.07)
you obviously don't know how to read. My sarcasm was directed at the very bias in the article that would prompt a nimwit like you to say "your society does not value human life". You were not there and neither was I. So before you form your opinion pull your head out out of your own a-- for a sec to read other sources
40. This is exactly what Hamas was hoping for
BJL ,   Appleland USA   (06.01.07)
For some children to be where their parents should not let them be, the children get killed, now wait for the outrage. Norway will now give them even more money and boycott Israel. The world will scream about the disporportional use of force blah blah blah and the qassams will keep falling on Sedrot. This is all soooo predictable. Israel.....don't fall for it AGAIN. Stop the Qassams. Whatever it takes.
41. oh ,well...
oded   (06.01.07)
you can't belive everything the """Palis""' say, now can't you??? they also claim that this land is theirs..... i don't belive that ,do you???
42. Dear Abdel
Isragirl   (06.01.07)
Don't lose your faith in peace. People who answer here don't represent everybody. It's the same voices, mostly of hate, time after time after time. This is their scene, their hangout place. But just like everybody else, they are also victims - mostly of pain and common misconceptions. I can tell you one thing - for me the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is as much a political as it is a personal conflict/dilemma. I envy the people who managed to resolve the personal conflict one way or another, and can be determined in taking one side or the other. Every day I check the news and it brings more pain into my life. But I'm not giving up hope yet. And you shouldn't either ... :o) Lina
43. How do we even know "children" were killed?
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (06.01.07)
Other than "Palestinians said so."
44. TO 30: EXCUSE ME MR. GENIUS..............
...*   (06.01.07)
Sderot also has children in every corner and all these f**cking terrorists and their qassams are hitting people's homes and putting families' lives in danger!!!! The difference between us and them is that we care if we hit children or whatever but they don't!!! Things do go wrong and we can't stop it, but these kids weren't suppose to be there anyway! I'm sorry for the loss but the terrorists asked for it and they should stop this s**t!!!!
45. Everyone knows these criminals use children as cannon fodder
Cynic ,   USA   (06.01.07)
46. Arabs killed by ACCIDENT. JEWISH Children Deliberate MURDER
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (06.01.07)
The Palestinian Authority hailed as heroes the savage murderers of 8 months pregnant defenseless Jewish Gaza mother Tali Hatuel and four little daughters. There is NO MERCY for non-Muslim infidels. Islamists hide behind women and children, fire from within densely populated areas and make war on civilian populations. Preferring that children die instead of themselves, these cowards send out children as instruments of murder. Hamas Charter: 'Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims. Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' STOP Inciting Children to Kill ! http://www.teachkidspeace.com/flash.php Flash Video - What the Free World needs to know about jihad: http://www.terrorismawareness.org/know-about-jihad/ Flash Video - The ISLAMIC MEIN KAMPF http://www.terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-kampf/ Palestinian Authority society are taught murdering Jews is the highest goal in life and attains paradise: http://www.pmw.org.il/AFD.html http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse
47. Libneniyyeh's disgrace
Isragirl   (06.01.07)
replies 38 and 39. no, you're not biased, you are as objective as it gets. you hurt for everybody's children and you care for everybody's pain. can you read sarcasm here? What a phony...
48. #37 Addel, nobody is stopping you....
BJL ,   Appleland USA   (06.01.07)
Nobody is stopping the palestinians from prospering except you. Instead of teaching your children to hate and strap bombs to themselves, teach the to build. Teach them how to make things other than bombs. Instead of glorifying the shahids, why not the businessman? Name your streets after sucessful business men instead of suicide murderers. You have a culture of death! Why not start a culture of life! Israel has been gone from Gaza for 2 years. Why fire rockets from there? If you want Israel out of the west bank, stop the missiles from Gaza to show that you can live in peace once the withdrawals occur!
49. Israel's Restraint is Showing
Dave Levy ,   Burank. CA USA   (06.01.07)
To Alex #1: I agree with you totally as an American. We are not talking about the fence separating Mexico from the US here. Your Gaza fence is in a war zone. The PALs typically claim innocent children are killed by aggressive Israeli actions..from rubber bullet throwers to Molotov Cocktail throwers and at the fence. The Arabs are not so stupid that they would permit children in this killing zone, which is what it is. If the PALs want to avoid these problems, they should stop the Kassams and bomb laying terrorists. I would not show them any sympathy, which is what they want. Dont' give one inch, or you will lose the entire body. Israel is too restrained in general, and it shows.
50. What are we talking about?
Jake T ,   Alaska   (06.01.07)
I've noticed over the years that whenever it's a Palestinian youth that gets hurt, the age limit for childhood seems to extend to 19. Those of us in the West are well aware that younger and younger children are committing serious crimes, including murder, so there is increasing pressure to lower the age of responsibility. Even now many 17 year olds are tried as adults. So in Palestinian society, considering everything about it, such as their "educational" system, childhood is a very relative term. When people train toddlers for jihad, they are relinquishing their right to claim their children as "innocent victims".
51. The Old Saying
Dale ,   Spokane USA   (06.01.07)
It is better to believe a lie from a friend, than the truth from an enemy
52. killed by an IDF shell in Beit Lahia
(06.01.07)
the canon may have no scanner for idetifying age of the victims. Israel may have no brain to identify that the area striked is heavily populated where a "shell" is banned by international law. Good excuse for the brainless!
53. #46 it's: Thou shall not kill, NOT Thou shall not murder
(06.01.07)
54. It is amazing how unhuman are israeli comments
Mohamed ,   Ejerusalem Palestine   (06.01.07)
you became worse than any other nation... two children killed and not rumors or call for a stop to this stupid conflict where we all know what the solution is going to be
55. HOW TO STOP ROCKETS ?? the solution here
Palestinian ,   USA   (06.01.07)
Hi,,, I suggest that Isarel government transfer palestinian prisons from Negev and other jails to sderot ... In this case the palestinian rockets will kill the palestinians in that new jails !! So the palestinians will prevent that terrorists from attacking with that fucken rockets ..... thanks,, I hope Israel government look to this suggestion seriously .... bye
56. #52 Pallywood
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (06.01.07)
It is well known by now that the Beit Lahiya incident was completely staged and bogus, like the "Massacre at Jenin," like the "dead martyr" falling off the cot and climbing back on, like "Mohammed Al Dura," like the "Green Helmet Man" driving around with his dead baby collection in the meat wagon.
57. To # 54
Juan ,   Spain   (06.01.07)
Mohamed, When I post here I say I am Juan in Spain, which is true. I could just as easily say I am sahid in Ramallah. Never believe everything you read in the newspapers, or posted in talkback or forums on the Internet. It might be false!
58. #44 U call this care?????????
(06.01.07)
you said "The difference between us and them is that we care if we hit children or whatever but they don't!!! """ Killing childern and then saying that u care??? what kind of stupidity is that??? Mr. know it all. I wonder if u don't care about the childern what the result is gonna be????
59. #54- talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Cameron ,   USA   (06.01.07)
Methinks you & yours are lurching much closer to that 'final solution' than the Israelis. The Israelis are simply paying you back in your own coin.
60. Ynet, please be more responsible
Chaim ,   Canada   (06.01.07)
Headlines like this one serve as raw material for the Anti-Semites of the world. Whatever the Palestinians say is a lie. But since the world continues to report their lies as truths, they continue making them. I can expect this from the BBC but not from an Israeli news site. The IDF is a far more reliable source. The headline should have read " 'Palestinians use children to plant bombs' the IDF says".
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