Opinion  Sever Plocker
'Second Holocaust' averted
Sever Plocker
Published: 05.06.07, 19:55
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1. No One Is Ashamed Of Victory.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (06.05.07)
Nor need we apologize for our survival. Only a few foolish leftist intellectuals, lost in utopian fantasies little connected to reality, wallow in self-guilt & a sick self-righteous conviction that winning is somehow "not fair," that victors are always the guilty party in any conflict, & that alone among the peoples of the earth, only Jews have no right to self-defense. The majority of Israelis & I'm sure the majority of Jews world-wide do not share these sentiments. There are two lessons from the Six Day War. One, is that just as in WWII, no one came to our aid - all were prepared to watch us be anihilated by invading Arab armies. and Two, that preemption is a better strategy than sitting waiting to be attacked. Our current political elite, politicians, journalists, & many academics have accepted a defeatist world-view but hopefully, the pendulum is swinging in the other direction.
2. Seams the writer forgot
(06.05.07)
That the six days war caused the Yom Kippur's war too and Israel lost about 2500 men and women in this war or you don't care about them ?? the six days war created much more enemies than you had before and put you forever in high alert and this costed you or costed America a hell of money , Nasser said Ahlan Wa Sahlan if you start the war but he didn't start the war , diplomatic ways could take chance if you waited a little bit but you didn't want to wait not because of your ships ... forget it ... but because of your colonial goals which you came with it to this area your big dream was the great Israel from the Nile till El Forat and this was your golden chance as step to the goal but later you found out that it was a dream and can never be true , it's a shame that writer like you insted of calling all sides to make peace you proud of making wars and it you didn't realise that now in wars no one win and if you win today you lose tomorrow ... yes you should feel a shame of this war because till now all of you sleeps with one eye open from beieng afraid from any rocket or bomb or any attack from anywhere , you lost all the international sympathy which you had before even the Holocoast doesn't work anymore and you are getting smaller and smaller and more in danger and you can not enjoy your life ... and all of this because there was people like you liked the game of the wars but they didn't care about the future of anyone .
3. Mr Plocker
Yisraeli   (06.06.07)
on the one hand points out how important the 6 day war was in order to stay off another holocaust, yet he keeps throwing in the so called "occupation". As if this is the cause for the perpetual conflict. How wrong he is. its common knowledge Israel after the war was willing to cede all the territory that it legitimately won in a defensive war for peace. But Israel was rejected yet again. Mr Plocker wants you to believe that if there was no Israeli presense in Judea and Samaria we could have had peace with Paletinian State No.2. He refuses to recognise the mere presense of Israel is the reason for perpetual conflict. Now he as Israel has 2 choices. Withdraw to the Auschwitz lines of '67 and wait for holocaust no.2. Or annex all theterritory and make clear that Israel is here to stay. You cant and wont have it both ways. Alas some people will never learn, just alot of self blame and wishful thinking. Ein chdash tachat h'shemesh.
4. Leftist still apologize for surviving - how despicable!
klaus ,   Jerusalem   (06.06.07)
Jews are proud and true Jews realize that Hashem gave us the victory from the jaws of defeat. There is no need to apologize for surviving. The knowledge that our actions are accountable will continue to encourage us to keep the land by being good Jews. "Tzedek Tzedek Tirdof - LiMa'am Tichyeh ViYarashta et HaAretz asher Hashem Elockecha Notein Lach."
5. #2 full of arab spin
tom ,   toronto, canada   (06.06.07)
either you were not alive in 1967, or you believe your own rhetorical rubbish. israel had more FRIENDS after the six-day war than ever before or since. much the same way the united states had plenty of friends at the fall of baghdad, because the arab world believes that might makes right. the truth is, egypt decided to make peace AFTER losing 2 wars in 6 years, not before. but please don't let the facts spoil your preconceived notions.
6. #2 Admit it - you hate Israel and wanted to destroy it
Lemmings Hotline ,   sd usa   (06.06.07)
and thats why you wont sign your name. This kind of one sided rhetoric is so characteristic of Israel's enemies. Its all part of the propaganda war. And it is really war.
7. to 5 Enjoy it
(06.06.07)
Kippur War went down in Israel's history as a qualified failure.The surprise rankled; and the cost was heavy: 2,688 soldiers fell. http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/Modern%20History/Centenary%20of%20Zionism/The%20Arab-Israeli%20Wars
8. Poor Sever, he has no idea what pride is
BigE - proud Israeli ,   Israel   (06.06.07)
The Arab and Muslim states and entities would always be in conflict with Israel and the non-Muslim world because bigotry, hegemony and "apartheid" mentality is built into their culture (even on the roads of Saudia). They actually believe the trash propaganda they're fed on a daily basis. Why else would "Mein Kampf" and the "Protocols" forgery be bestsellers in the Muslim world? We Israelis have the right to feel proud at having foiled a "Second Holocaust" in 1967. I am sure that we will foil the nefarious plans of the chinless ophthamologist and the little monkey-man, despite the nay-saying leftists and our brain-dead government. We, the people of Israel, have the right to refuse insanely dangerous agreements that compromise our physical security. We were bluffed by the Olso misadventure (I was a leftist then). We are not so naive today. We understand what appeasement and the treacherous "Peace in our time" mentality can bring.
9. #2
Ram ,   London   (06.06.07)
Just keep on hoping of winning the next time. Forget about nation building and the proper bringing up of children for a better future. You people are sad. "Live and let live" is a policy you refuse to adopt. Until you do you shall live in misery, as you have done for so long.
10. no. 2
gm ,   south africa   (06.06.07)
It seams you forgot ... you say Israel wants to create a country from "the Nile till El Forat". I don't know where El Forat is, but if YOU recall, Israel returned the Sinai to Egypt, Israel gave Gaza to the "palestinians" and Israel still exists today after the Six-Day war, the Yom Kippur war and the Lebanese war. So crawl back into bed and keep dreaming your propoganda.
11. to 5 the dreamer
(06.06.07)
I am older than 1967 but it seams you still lives in the old zionism dreams , get real boy and look around you how many boycott against Israel and how much the hate is growing up to the Jews because of Israel and how many countries still have sympathy for Israel ... if you don't see it then or you are blind or it's too much for you and you don't want to believe it ... Israel is passing by it's worst time even political and militirial .... look in a clean mirrior to see the truth ... i know it's hard but it is the truth .
12. #7, ah another arab "victory"
Danny   (06.06.07)
Syrian army annihilated, Egyptian Second army completely cut off and Egyptian third army saved by nuclear threats from USSR. Israel in possesion of more land than before the war. Not quite "throwing the Jews into the sea" is it?
13. from articles and talkbacks
huda ,   rafah   (06.06.07)
the israili say ///// palastinians is a fact // ocupation is another fact // but israil is the doute // so israil need more and more power for its existence // simply becouse israil was initiated by the power // and the rights of the palastinians are still losted by the israil power // or am i wrong
14. #13 - can't tell if you're right or wrong....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (06.06.07)
because you can't express yourself in English.
15. Jewish left has a powerful death wish
Chaim   (06.08.07)
It is impossible to rationally explain the attitudes and behavior of many Jewish leftists. They are ashamed of wining the Six Day War, although it's loss would have meant another Holocaust. They push Israel for more retreats, when every Israeli retreat has been a disaster. Israeli retreats have brought only rockets on our cities, more terror, maimed and murdered civilians. They demonstrate a strong lust for destroying Jewish homes. A lust which would have done Goering proud. They embrace genocidal terrorists and pretend they are friends! Just this week, Arabs stoned Peace Now activists demonstrating in Hebron for Israeli retreat. The only explanation for the Jewish left is that it has a very powerful death wish. Leftist rule in Israel must be ended immediately.
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