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Gays celebrate 'victory' in Jerusalem
Aviram Zino
Published: 22.06.07, 00:26
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1. Feeling so sick from this disgusting parade.
AB ,   TheRock   (06.22.07)
2. IT WAS A GAY OCCASION FOR ALL !!!
RCA ,   USA   (06.22.07)
3. GIVALD GIVALD .....
your all sick ,   you all need help   (06.22.07)
4. OLMERT's chicanery....
ben ,   singapore   (06.22.07)
Gay Parade SuCCess ? Well you see HAMAS PARADE is comimg soon. This is the CURSE you invited, we will all suffer.Olmert be it know this Hamas PARADE is knocking the BRONZE GATE. ENOUGH of brummagen talks. NOT a burrito parade party but Hamas PARADE.Be a GOOD Chieftain NOW enough being chiffchaff OMERT, ENOUGH ! ben singapore.
5. Is Israel cursed or to be cursed
Josh   (06.22.07)
Choose a blessing or choose a curse. "...and they will be promoted higher as you sink lower." Stop the rabbinic magic and return to the pashoot of Torah. Evil roams the streets.
6. THIS IS THE REAL STORY HERE
Mike ,   Vancouver, Canada   (06.22.07)
The same people who said "Why stay in Gush Katif and protect 2,000 settlers with 6,000 IDF soldiers" are now the ones who have 7,000 IDF soldiers protecting them. The purpose of this was to piss off the religious right wing and force their way of life down our throughts.
7. Congratulations Satat, Netanel and.....
AJ ,   Washington, DC   (06.22.07)
all of my gay Jewish brothers and sisters in Israel who did a marvelous job! You are strong and proud and make all of us strong and proud. I wish our straight Jewish brothers and sisters understood us better, or even tried to appreciate us for who we are. But until that day comes, please don't give up the fight for freedom and tolerance in the capital city of the Jewish people, our beloved Jerusalem.
8. Glad No One Got Hurt
Darnell Clayton ,   USA   (06.22.07)
Although I am really happy that this parade took place, I am glad that no one (from both sides) got hurt during this event. I think (to be fair) the Orthodox Jews, Christians and Muslims should have a parade of their own (I'm assuming they have not, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
9. Victory are you sure ?
secular Cordier   (06.22.07)
Victory are you sure ? tens of haredim wounded, a lot of hate, ten millions of dollars spend by the police to protect gays "rights" of shocking religious and desacralizing jerusalem... the next "victory" the "right" to be naked in front of the kotel... With a lot of victories like that the backlash will be hard... Don t forget an haredim familly has six or seven children a gay familly ???? Listen to the shas mk ; to be in rehabilitations centers will be the future of the gay community in israel sooner or later at best (at least an hamas victory in a palisrael and no more gay alive...).
10. disgusting
moti ,   rbs   (06.22.07)
jerusalem is the holiest city in the world. a city that is holy to the biggest religions all which say homosexuality is a sin. Horrible,disgust are the only words that come to mind.. this is not politically correct to say 0 but god puts AIDS out as a punishment for homosexuality...
11. good for you :)
michelle ,   center, israel   (06.22.07)
12. I am disgusted.
(06.22.07)
Disgusted by the intolerance and total trash spewed by people who oppose equal rights for all. How can you demean your neighbors, family, and friends because they love people of the same sex. Are they not human? Do they not suffer and bleed? Of course they do and it is people who are " sickend" by a Parade that make them bleed. The Parade was a quiet peaceful event. The most outrageous costumes were men wearing pink cowboy hats and suits. There wasn't even any music. Yet just because a group of gay people walked from one corner to another some horribly limited people feel the urge to say they are sickend. Perhaps psychological help for them is in order. They need to asses why they are sickend by the very existence of gay people walking through a city.
13. Fascist tyranny of minority...
Marya ,   sacramento,USA   (06.22.07)
Where is all the compassion and understanding from the left for ANYTHING religious? What a fraud! We have to not just tolerate but embrace and have our noses rubbed in your deviance. What hypocrisy. When has the Left wing EVER been tolerant of ANYTHING RELIGIOUS? YOU HAVE HATED US FROM THE BEGINING -- YOU AND YOUR PEACE NOW, MACHSOM WATCH - YOU AND YOUR HATRED FOR SETTLERS AND CHAREIDI. HYPOCRITES, ALL OF YOU!
14. Sodom
Jerry ,   United States   (06.22.07)
Rev. 11:8 And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Is anybody listening over there?
15. It's all...
Robert ,   Los Angeles   (06.22.07)
social engineering and demagoguery. Considering that they're "Celebrating a Victory", I REALLY don't think this group has a iota of sincerity, courtesy, or respect for the general populace. Their so-called "march" is an provocative EXPRESSION OF HATE AND CONTEMPT against the People of the City (whom, like most places, host a STRAIGHT majority) and all Religious groups who regard the City as sanctified ground - especially to the State Religion of Judaism. On the other hand - IIRC - The city's VOTING CITIZENS voted in the mayor and city council. Your call.
16. gay-day
Tom D ,   Woodbridge, VA   (06.22.07)
homosexuality IS an abomination sayth the Lord.
17. god_said-man_said
Tom D ,   Woodbridge, VA   (06.22.07)
sodom & Gomorrah burned for THIS! God will NOT be mocked!
18. Gay achievement?
Baruch ,   Boston, USA   (06.22.07)
The only "achievement" here for the GLBT crowd was that they successfully used the legal system to impose themselves on people who view them as perverse. They haven't gained any level of acceptance. They've simply just had a parade. Other freaks like them, of any screwed up sexual orientation, and some bleeding heart liberals, will of course come out and support them. People who believe in normal families and dislike what they do simply will never support them. It really hasn't changed anything other than to allow them to put on a public display of their mental illness. The fact that only a couple of thousand turned out to parade is significant, since the police had planned a force of 7000 a couple of days ago. It's like the small crowd that actually showed up in the stadium last year after all the conflict. In the end, the only society that will last in Israel is the one that fears God. The religious, not just the Haredim, will be the majority in a couple of decades. The freaks who do what the paraders do will expose themselves progressively more and more as the social misfits that they are and those normal people who support them today out of some sense of sympathy or tolerance will get sick of their behavior.
19. I may have to rain on this parade ...
sk ,   USA   (06.22.07)
According to Israel National News, Noa Satat said that the reason why there was no march in any Arab part of town was to avoid offending Muslim sensibilities. This is unacceptable. I don't mind offending clown suited ones, but Muslims are more anti-gay than the Haredim (if possible), and they are therefore even more in need of being offended. I plan on contacting Satat and someone else who might have the inside scoop. The point of this march is not to single out Judaism, but to reject homohatred and the closet generally.
20. sk, for once I agree with you...
Phantom 85   (06.22.07)
would you please personally lead the gay rights march in Gaza City? Thanks.
21. Symptom of social pathology...
Salomon S Mizrahi ,   Sao Carlos/SP/Brazil   (06.22.07)
...Not of the gays, but of the Israeli society. The gays constitute a minority (5-10 % of the population), they have their sexual preference, and nowadays its OK for everybody, almost nobody bothers. But why should they want to parade? For exhibiting what? Other minorities do not parade; because there is no any real motive to parade... The answer is that gays do parade for the aim of provocation...That’s why Jerusalem was chosen. Moreover, it was not only a simple gay-parade, this parade is the symbol of anti-Jewishness, a resistance against Jewish culture and Jewish traditions...That’s why it was allowed by the secular Israelis, that is way the Israeli nomenklatura can provoke and spit on Judaism, a concept they abhor. That’s the way Israelis behave…In these last years I understood that being Israeli has nothing to do with being a Jew.
22. Not in JERUSALEM!
Din Tzadika ,   Tel Aviv   (06.22.07)
I am a full supporter of personal freedoms. To each his or her own based upon the harm principle - but there is one major exception: JERUSALEM. How can you justify this in-your-face exhibition of homosexuality in this most holy city? Why do you have to parade HERE? Jerusalem is not the correct place for a reasonable person to hold a public porkroast - nor is it the place for homosexuals to flaunt their inherent right to free speech and action. Hatred against homosexuals is wrong, homosexuals parading through the streets of a city that is held sancrosact by 3 billion people is also wrong. There are Hundreds of thousands of OTHER cities - you did NOT have to do this here in Jerusalem, you knew it would disgust the population, you did it anyway, and you should be ashamed - NOT fr being gay, not for having pride, but for offending YOUR neighbours in a parade that you KNEW would issue this response in the ONE city where any idiot should be able to understand that local and international seniments would be gravely offended. This parade was in bad taste and I am sorry it was permitted. I look forward to the Meccan Pride Parade. Do not flaunt "sin" in the city of G-d. It does not matter if you believe in our G-d, hkbh, it matters that we do! Just as we respect your rights to love one another in the manner you deem appropriate - please respect our holy places and refrain from urinating on the kotel, having a porkroast in the streets of the old city, and having an open march in support of sodomy there too. Hopefully you will be married legally one day - in Tel Aviv. Keep this shit private please. Thank you.
23. Ynet's Pro-Homosexual Promotion & Censorship
Paqid 16 Netzarim ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (06.22.07)
In addition to Ynet's pro-homosexual PR campaign consisting of relentless articles for weeks in advance of a homosexual event, often several at a time, which in itself promotes homosexual "awareness" and desensitization, the following has come to my attention: **Ynet posted Pro-sodomite talkbacks:** "Three kinds of scientific evidence point to the proportion of homosexual molestation: 1) survey reports of molestation in the general population, 2) surveys of those caught and convicted of molestation, and 3) what homosexuals themselves have reported. These three lines of evidence suggest that the 1%-to-3% of adults who practice homosexuality (3) account for between a fifth and a third of all child molestation." http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html **and, from the same pro-homosexual talkbacker, the following misrepresentation of the cited statistics** "how much is 1 minus 1/3? or 1 minus 1/5? the answer STILL indicates that the MAJORITY or 2/3 and 4/5 of molestation/pedophilia were commited by, anyone? HETEROSEXUALS! yes, i did. and now class, how much is 1 minus 1/3? or 1 minus 1/5? the answer STILL indicates that the MAJORITY or 2/3 and 4/5 of molestation/pedophilia were commited by, anyone? HETEROSEXUALS! " **But their editor(s) refused to post the exposure of the misrepresented statistic with the mathematically correct conclusions:** "...there is a well-documented proven direct correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia when the total cases of pedophilia are looked at. A commonly skewed statistic is that there are more cases of pedophilia in the heterosexual population than in the homosexual. This comes as no surprise since homosexuals make up only about 2% of the population. There is an inordinate occurrence of pedophilia in the homosexual population relative to the heterosexual. In fact, in a special 1990 double issue of the Journal of Homosexuality, it is proudly trumpeted that 'parents should welcome the loving pedophile into their homes,- and where 'adult-child sex' is referred to euphemistically as nothing more than 'intergenerational intimacy.'" (www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a02sDelayDocument.html) Therefore, per 1,000 people in the population: 2 sodomites account for 25 pedophile attacks = 12.5 attacks per sodomite 998 heterosexuals account for 75 pedophile attacks = .075 attacks per heterosexual Per person in the general population, therefore: sodomites account for 167 times more pedophile attacks than heterosexuals It is not the first time that Ynet has exercised censorship based on an agenda-driven consideration rather than its stated policy. Such selective censorship constitutes blatant, agenda-driven manipulation of information that has curtailed free speech. PS: the most popular Israeli Jewish newspaper not publishing candlelighting times on Yom Shishi in its on-line counterpart is a disgrace to Israel and Jewish readers. Even ha-Aretz publishes candlelighting times on Yom Shishi. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
24. Ynet's Pro-Homosexual Promotion & Censorship (updated)
Paqid 16 Netzarim ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (06.22.07)
In addition to Ynet's pro-homosexual PR campaign consisting of relentless articles for weeks in advance of a homosexual event, often several at a time, which in itself promotes homosexual "awareness" and desensitization, the following has come to my attention: **Ynet posted Pro-sodomite talkbacks:** "Three kinds of scientific evidence point to the proportion of homosexual molestation: 1) survey reports of molestation in the general population, 2) surveys of those caught and convicted of molestation, and 3) what homosexuals themselves have reported. These three lines of evidence suggest that the 1%-to-3% of adults who practice homosexuality (3) account for between a fifth and a third of all child molestation." http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html **and, from the same pro-homosexual talkbacker, the following misrepresentation of the cited statistics** "how much is 1 minus 1/3? or 1 minus 1/5? the answer STILL indicates that the MAJORITY or 2/3 and 4/5 of molestation/pedophilia were commited by, anyone? HETEROSEXUALS! yes, i did. and now class, how much is 1 minus 1/3? or 1 minus 1/5? the answer STILL indicates that the MAJORITY or 2/3 and 4/5 of molestation/pedophilia were commited by, anyone? HETEROSEXUALS! " **But their editor(s) refused to post the exposure of the misrepresented statistic with the mathematically correct conclusions:** "...there is a well-documented proven direct correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia when the total cases of pedophilia are looked at. A commonly skewed statistic is that there are more cases of pedophilia in the heterosexual population than in the homosexual. This comes as no surprise since homosexuals make up only about 2% of the population. There is an inordinate occurrence of pedophilia in the homosexual population relative to the heterosexual. In fact, in a special 1990 double issue of the Journal of Homosexuality, it is proudly trumpeted that 'parents should welcome the loving pedophile into their homes,- and where 'adult-child sex' is referred to euphemistically as nothing more than 'intergenerational intimacy.'" (www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a02sDelayDocument.html) Therefore, per 1,000 people in the population: 2 sodomites account for 25 pedophile attacks = 12.5 attacks per sodomite 998 heterosexuals account for 75 pedophile attacks = .075 attacks per heterosexual The ratio of pedophilia attacks in the respective populations, therefore, is 12.5 / .075 = 167 times greater among homosexuals than among heterosexuals. Per person in the general population, therefore: sodomites account for 167 times more pedophile attacks than heterosexuals It is not the first time that Ynet has exercised censorship based on an agenda-driven consideration rather than its stated policy. Such selective censorship constitutes blatant, agenda-driven manipulation of information that has curtailed free speech. PS: the most popular Israeli Jewish newspaper not publishing candlelighting times on Yom Shishi in its on-line counterpart is a disgrace to Israel and Jewish readers. Even ha-Aretz publishes candlelighting times on Yom Shishi. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
25. Solomon, Brazil 100% right
Nora ,   Tel Aviv   (06.22.07)
You`re absolutely right. Add to that the media and the secular leftists that are more dangerous than the gays. According to them, Jewish values in Israel have to be eradicated and secular Israel values should be forced down the throats of "these Zionist Jews".
26. Victory.....
meira ,   Haifa, Israel   (06.22.07)
I don't think so. The fact that this parade took place is a sad commentary on how SELFISH we have become as a people. Everyone has their own agenda. Everyone has their own needs that must be satisfied irrespective of the cost or who it hurts. The fact that one NIS was spent on this parade...the fact that 7000 police had to be used... at a time when so many of our fellow Israelis live under bombardment from qassams and their schools and homes and shelters are not adequately fortified - SICKENS ME. Victory.... NO. This was a sad day for us all.
27. G-d made man,
a0011   (06.22.07)
G-d made woman.. There is no choice any more!! It's the primitive human beings who think they have some kind of a choice here!!
28. Paqid
charles ,   petach tikva   (06.22.07)
probably your made statistics
29. #19 - Freudian slip
AB ,   TheRock   (06.22.07)
You have confirmed what #18 writes. This is all about 'offending'. Not only are you out to offend G-d you want to offend the heart of the world, Yerushalayim, and offend all decent human beings. May you get what you deserve. It is forbidden to have pity on people that have no daat (as a result of their transgressions).
30. #8 No one got hurt? Nonsense!
Miriam ,   Jerusalem   (06.22.07)
First of all, G-d got hurt, and besides Him, hundreds of thousands of religious Jews, Christians and Muslims, got hurt at the intolerance of a sick minority group whose ONLY PURPOSE of this parade was to spit at G-d and His religious children. Shame on YNet for promoting it and shame on these immoral people for this shameful abomination.
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