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'Hamas army' established in Gaza, intelligence source says
Ronny Sofer
Published: 10.07.07, 00:06
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1. POLITICIANS AT FAULT: OLMERT. BUSH, RICE, PERES, PERETZ, PEL
PELOSI, MICKEY MOUSE ,   ..............DACON9   (07.10.07)
2. Is it true!!!
Tal ,   USA   (07.10.07)
You guys are talking about Hamas as if they have more weapons than you.The matter of fact that they have a very premitive weapons and most of the Qassam done nothing to Israel.But look how much damage you guys are doing for the Palestinians and most of the them are innocent people. You should stop your brain wash that you contineously exporting to the west.
3. Will Prime Minister Romano Prodi turn a blind eye ....
Psalms 83 ,   Selah washington USA   (07.10.07)
to the evidence
4. "It's impossible to live like this"?? Cut the crap!
Salameh ,   Gaza, Palestine   (07.10.07)
Why don't you come and visit the Palestinians under seige by the occupation Appachis, Cannons, live shooting, seperation walls, checkpoints, exit-entry blockades, olive trees cutting, electricty 2 hours aday and indiscrimate shooting and detention !! Ohh wait a minute, It's possible to live like this, because we are Palestinians and the occupier is your spoiled zionist friend!!! You are all the same. Prodi, shame on you!
5. Did Prodi realise that Italy is not far for aShahab hit from
Alan ,   SA   (07.10.07)
Gaza. Also Suez Canal isnt far for all sorts of hits from Gaza.What about those SUNBURN Rockets..(Same applies to Lebanon) Prodi is starting to get educated.If he doesnt understand strategic matters he must ask an Italian Admiral.
6. wait
abu-alQasam ,   nablus   (07.10.07)
wait ppl you know logic say u will not feel safe as long there is a palestinian child still alive becouse Palestine in our blood and we will get it back every cm it will come back . yah i know you think you are strong but i guess we have something you don't have which is that when we go to fight the goal one from two victory or to die ... you when u go to fight you go with two goals to live and kill more palestinian . so i want to ask you how many guy in ur side ready to die for what you call it israel then compear it with how many guy is ready to die for palestine and you people should put in you accounts all muslims not only Palestinian ..... after that tell me when you will feel safe ???
7. Hamas and the Palestinian Fight for Freedom
Fred Farkelsteinman ,   NY, NY USA   (07.10.07)
It is too bad that Hamas is not provided better weapons to use in ther resistance to the occupation of Palestine by Israel. To properly defend against Israeli agression directed towards the people of Paletine, the Palestinian freedom fighters need modern anti-tank weapons like the ones Hezbollah used so successfully to defend Lebanon recently from another attempted Israeli occupation of their homeland.
8. Good!
Tom ,   bsas,argentina   (07.10.07)
This is good news for Israel and IDF Now the pussys and terrorists of Hamas, now have an ARMY. so they will not be shielded behind civilians, use guerrilla tactics and terrorists suicides bombings. Maybe they will, maybe they won´t. But, Israel now can crush them once and for all. Long Live Israel
9. inconvenient truths
tom ,   toronto, canada   (07.10.07)
perhaps it's more convenient to blame hamas' armaments on smuggling through egypt, but what about the 15,000 or so assault rifles that israel and the united states have already supplied, through the good offices of fatah? and out of those 5,000 qassams, it is the latest 1,500, fired AFTER the israeli withdrawal from gaza, that the "senior intelligence officer" would rather NOT emphasize. what ever happened to speaking the truth?
10. #2 Tal The Truth is
Doc Holliday   (07.10.07)
I disagree with your premise that "most of them are innocent people". In fact most of the Pals are complicit in the terror!!! This is the dirty little secret. When you have brainwashed the last six generations to hate Israel/Jews that is what most people will feel. They willing hide weapons in their houses and allow rockets to be fired from civilian sites. Apparently they willingly or gleefully let their children murder people while killing themselves. This makes the mother proud? No, Tal their are very few innocents among those people, sadly there does not seem tro be an answer.
11. gee Wiz...Somethin NEW
Malcolm   (07.10.07)
Uh ..All of a sudden this is news. Hamas has a 6000 man Iranian trained army. This is three times the size of what Israel had to deal with in Lebanon last summer. They are in the process of incorporating former Fatah soldiers who are Hamas material which should increase that number substantially. What did Livni think would happen after she helped Sharon get the votes to seal the fate of the Jews of Gaza. Each day that she and Olmert are in office increases the Israeli casualty rate to come because at some point the IDF will have to clean out Kadimah's toilet that is Gaza. And this time they will face every ayatollah's dreaman...an army of Islamic suicide machines.. KOL HAKAVOD TZIP!!!
12. Farkelsteinman...
Andrew ,   USA   (07.10.07)
I'm two-thirds NATIVE AMERICAN! Get the hell out of MY COUNTRY!!! F'n idiot!
13. #7 achmed fred
jerome ,   basalt, co   (07.10.07)
there is only occupation by arabs of israeli land in gaza there are no freedon fighters that shoot qassams from the occupided gaza into israel, they are called ignorant terrorist! I hope to meet you in a dark alley to talk about this with you fool!:)
14. #4salaminnieman
jerome ,   basalt, co   (07.10.07)
palistinians chose the seperation fence by there continuied terror againsnt the state of Israel that has tryed peace but has no partner. The Gaza palis also chose there life style evil teaching to there children to hate the Jews! The only occupation is in the hate the radical muslims teach there children!!! if the Palis taught peace and love there would be no helicoter attacks, no entry exit blockades, no shooting, no checkpoints, no cannons, the Jews would help plant olive trees, and so on! And you to could live as you say spoiled instaed of just being jealous.
15. RE: 7. Hamas and the Palestinian Fight for Freedom
Sam the man ,   Every where USA   (07.10.07)
It is time for you to step away from the Tube that has virtualy only liberal news ...(most of which is propaganda handed to them so they don't have to do the footwork it takes to check out the truthfulness of it) Test what you see on the news .... this advice goes to both libs and conservitives
16. "Farkelsteinman" Can't get more Jew hating than that
Malcolm   (07.10.07)
Farkelsteinman. 4 Jew names rolled into one! For an Anarchist anti-globalization Jew/Israel hating Talkback TROLL your doin a good job.
17. #4 You don't even have a clue
Malcolm   (07.10.07)
You don't have even a tiny clue what's in store for you and your family. Someday you will look back on the way you live now as "The good old days". The ayatollahs have only one thing in store for you...Total "Martyrdom". You will all be subject to death and destruction because you CHOSE to follow the Hamas Way. That includes shariah (their version of course) and offering up you children and your entire family as human sacrifices to their god. If you survive you will look back at the so called Israeli "occupation" like a sentimental old man...pretty much the same way the Germans felt right after the ruins of WWII. Of course, like the Germans, at this stage you still think you are going to come out on top. KEEP DREAMIN!!
18. Muslims will never succeed
Gary ,   Los Angeles   (07.10.07)
You cannot build a society by valuing death more than life. Is it any wonder that you are reviled worldwide with this attitude? Your destiny is written in blood. It was your decision to live by the sword while we offered to compromise our dream....you said everything or death. So be it then.
19. Muslim Brotherhood: Knights under the Banner of Persia
Heads Up ,   Perth, Australia   (07.10.07)
Abdul Aziz is the mole of Al-Zawahri inside Pakistan. Left the kiddies inside the Mosque to fight his dirty war, and tried to sneak out with the women. Vitriolic enemy of orthodox Salafism and peaceful Islam, evidently also a conscientious objector to personal participation in violent Jihad, or more likely just a pathetic coward and a hypocrite. Al-Baghdadi is the pawn of Al-Zawahri in Iraq. He brings waves of destruction down upon the Sunni in Iraq, and murders every Kurd that refuses to project terror across the border into Turkey. Brags about a phony war he will start in two months against Iran, before which time his master will betray him and have the next sucker in place. Al-Zawahri is the foremost Crusader for Ajam, chief betrayer of the Ummah, and newly minted Godfather of Hamastan. For his Supreme Leader in Tehran he massacres the Sunni of Iraq. For the idolatrous regime of Alawite Occupied Syria he works tirelessly to usurp power from the Sunni in the Lebanon, and install Nasr Allat and the Nusayri of Damascus as the new King and Queen of Hezbollahstan. Bin Laden is the great patsy of the Muslim Brotherhood, who inhaled too much rubble at Tora Bora. This straw man languishes in a cave somewhere ranting at an army of goats while the traitor Al-Zawahri directs all the resources of Al Qaida towards achieving the plots of Ajam from a luxury apartment in Tehran. Bush Jr. is a greedy idiot and honorary member for life of the Muslim Brotherhood. Destroyed the credibility of the CIA and subverted the American military to pursue a family feud with the Husseins. Had a chance to follow the terrorist trail back to Tehran and Damascus, but decided it wasn’t worth the damage that would be done to big oil on his side of the Persian Gulf. Instead presided over the ethnic cleansing of the Sunni in Iraq, and became patron of the drug barons of Afghanistan. With any luck the Christians and Muslims are right about Hell, and Bush will burn there forever. Haniyeh is a Crusader for Ajam who betrayed his people and religion when he kneeled before Ahmadinejad at Doha. His prize was the throne of Hamastan. As a King he is impotent and oft cuckolded, but remains the fat smiling face of terror. Mashaal is a Crusader for Ajam, who is able to roll over and beg for food. As the Queen of Hamastan, she has her throne on the lap of Bashar. This canine lesbian power couple looks forward to the ingathering of the Infidels at Isfahan, and worship the Dajjaal and other idols with great enthusiasm.
20. Why do the arabs insist on death?
Micha   (07.10.07)
Can't they ever live in peace with anyone? This is Jewish land, just like the blacks took back the land in South Africa. Enough with the arab apartheid. Jews won't have it anymore. We are not interested in being your slaves any longer. Up with the resistance to your arab aggression. UP with the resistance to iranian aggression. UP with the resistance to Syrian aggression. We will resist you as long as it takes and we will destroy you.
21. #19
(07.10.07)
i love the eloquence of your tb. very astute. by the way, that pakistani cleric who tried to escape the mosque in islamabad had done so wearing a women's burkah and a veil. yes, coward that he is. why didn't he stay there till the end and die as a martyre? after all, this is what he suggests his constituents and followers do. using human shield and dresses is their number one specialty.
22.  Re:18. Muslims will never succeed
Psalms 83 ,   Selah Washington USA   (07.10.07)
Quote :"Your destiny is written in blood. It was your decision to live by the sword while we offered to compromise our dream....you said everything or death. So be it then" ================== Well stated .....We can try to do our best to accomadate ,love others.....but if through thier hate they insist its all or nothing (death) then the path they take will more than likely end in death...
23. Will They Bring "FARFUR" Back as they're Mascott
David P. ,   Central Coast, USA   (07.10.07)
24. lol. They just changed their name.
(07.10.07)
25. End Of "Two State" Solution
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (07.10.07)
There is now the "Three State" Illusion. Fact: Hamas controls Gaza. Fact: Fatah controls the Arab West Bank (AWB). Fact: Hamas and Fatah can't get along and should not be expected to. Fact: Gaza and the AWB are evolving into two separate and independent entities. Fact: The American and Israeli Left's dream of a "two-state" solution has just evaporated.
26. "Farkelsteinman",Your Palestinians fighting Freedumb!
KMR ,   Middle East   (07.10.07)
27. GO IN NOW! before it's too late and they conquer sderot
uli ,   jerusalem   (07.10.07)
it will only grow worse and worse the more we wait. olmert said he will learn from the lebanon war??? so here is the lesson: don't let grow your enemys grow on your border knowing they want to destroy you. ACT NOW! Go in now! Take Philadelphi. Comp the whole strip for Shalit!!
28. to no. 4! Stop crying, start working!
uli ,   jerusalem   (07.10.07)
What's your problem? You have an own entity. Make it a state. Start business and economy and education. you have an open border to egypt, take your water, gas and electricty from them, not from israel!!!
29. Spaghetti propaganda
(07.10.07)
He will go home and later he will say how the Palistinians can live like this .... they are all double faces they make only bla bla but their hands is in the cold water ... and the fact is that both sides can not live like this .
30. great-come to fight like amen's.
mark   (07.10.07)
we wil liquidate you. like need to do to murder' s. stop the injury in civilians . and fight like combatant.
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