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PM: I'm Jewish, then Israeli
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 10.07.07, 20:38
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1. They are one in the same - arent they ??
Andrew ,   Miami,FL   (07.10.07)
2. omg rso
(07.10.07)
why have you quoted him for only 5 times? i didnt understand his message, how about you'll quote him one more time and then even one more?
3. The first positive thing
Chaya ,   Bat Yam, Israel   (07.10.07)
This is the first positive thing I have heard Olmert say. But don't forget - the word 'Jew' comes from Judea which - actually - is the same as Israel!
4. A true shame
Antonio ,   Haifa   (07.10.07)
that there is a difference between being Jewish and Israeli. This is the biggest failure of Zionism. The two ought to be one and the same.
5. Haredim weren't invited to the conference about Jews!
Nannette ,   London   (07.10.07)
And that says a lot about Olmert's war against the Jews. Hredim are people too, and they're devout Jews!
6. you're a dumb first and then a danger for israel !
stephane ,   france   (07.10.07)
7. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY JEWISH?
BILL HANDEL ,   BROOKLYN, USA   (07.10.07)
Olmert doesn't observe the Torah commandments in the Code of Je3wish Law. So, what makes him Jewish--eating gefilte fish? He sounds like a "coronary Jew!"
8. Living in American Does Not Make One a Christian
Dave Levy ,   Burbank CA USA   (07.10.07)
One poster thinks that being Israeli and Jewish are the same. Come on, grow up. An Israeli-Arab or Christian is not Jewish. One can be an American Jew, Christian, Catholic, Buddist, Muslim, Hindu, etc. One can be an American of Polish, Russian, Chinese, Korean, Indian, Egyptian heritage or even Israeli. Being Jewish means being a part of a people, having a common culture and history..having Israel as a spiritual homeland..having common holidays, and rituals. But mainly, it's a faith....like Christianity, but we have a different bible, different values, different principles..different attitudes. Living in Israel does not make one per se Jewish. Just as living in the Vatican does not make one Catholic. Living in Egypt, does not make one a Muslim. Living in the US does not make one Protestant or Catholic or a Jehovahs Witness. Am I being understand?
9. #10 What makes you a jew
Mike ,   Israel   (07.10.07)
You wear a kipa and pray sometimes thats a jew to you. Have you ever protected what you are or did you just pray, have you ever stand out in a crowd and say i'm a jew, have you ever protected the state of Israel. NO NO NO NO your one big 0 zero. If thats a jew than i'm Israeli and yes a jew better than youll ever be. ZEVEL
10. Olmert is a liar...
Dave Neil ,   Jerusalem   (07.10.07)
I met an older fellow (late 60s) in Florida last year who was in the Irgun and knew Olmert for many years. He said that Olmert was a liar then and is now. If Olmert says he is Jewish first and then Israeli know that the opposite is true. Dave Neil
11. Don't Believe Him For A Nanosecond
Adina Kutnicki ,   US   (07.10.07)
What a crock of grabage! He certainly does EVERYTHING to negate the zionist Jewish ethos. A true Jewish soul-religious or secular-would never hand over our homeland to anyone. Never. He is mouthing platitudes and saying what he thinks will go down better with the audience. He is a malevolent liar!
12. Olmert's Jew first Israeli second
Paul Jancu ,   New York, USA   (07.10.07)
Interesting parallel to Arabs. When asked, they are moslem first and Egyptian, Saudi etc second!
13. No. 10
NYC Girl   (07.10.07)
I would have to agree because every Israeli I ever knew who wasn't religious, including the one I was married to, always referred to themselves as Israelis, not as Jews. Not only that, but I seem to remember Olmert being the one who suddenly got religion when he was running for Mayor of Jerusalem against Teddy Kollek.
14. #5- They were too busy calling justice officials Nazis!
Bleiberg ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (07.10.07)
The Haredim have better things than being in conferences side to side with female Reformed rabbis discussing the fate of secular Jews, like for instance...studying in yeshivas, their excuses for avoiding army service and taxes. Despicable the way MK Cohen, if I should even call him a Knesset member, called a fellow Jew a Nazi! UTJ and Shas Knesset members act like we are a theocracy in Iran. PLEASE SEPARATE RELIGION AND STATE!
15. funny, he doesn't look jewish
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (07.10.07)
16. You could have fooled me, Omert!
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17. To # 7
TOMAS ,   BSAS,ARGENTINA   (07.11.07)
I don´t read nor follow the Torah. AND I AM JEWISH. My mother´s Jewish, My Father and so my other sisters, grandpa´s and so on. Let me remind you that during Nazism, Jews following the Torah and those who did not, were also in the gas chambers, persecuted, killed, burned, tortured,etc. you know why? Because they were JEWS. Reading the Torah does not make you more Jewish than I am. So knock it off. Long Live Israel
18. Rommel's Lampshades
Dave Levy ,   Burbank. CA USA   (07.11.07)
If anyone doesn't know what a Jew is, then find out. The best place is in a bar, with drunken goyim. Just open your mouth to them, and tell them you are Jewish. Hitler defined what is a Jew. He said: having one grandparent. Hungarian fascists said a Jew has one great grandparent who is a Jew (Jewish blood). Take it or leave it. Let's be honest, when Rommel was headed towards Palestine, he pointed his guns towards every Jew there, secular to ultra-Orthodox. Olmert would have been made into a lampshade...so, yes, he is very much a Jew, perfidy and all. I don't think Hamas is very different, nor did those Katyushas differentiate? Did they?
19. So what are his children ?
Shimmon ,   Tzfat   (07.11.07)
I guess he was an Israeli when he had his children being a born again Jew. But it seems most of his offspring have left Israel for the greener grass so to speak. Can children from a born again Jew with a leftist Israeli wife be Jews ? Are they Israelis or did the become where ever they moved to. Thank G-d the dont live in Iran. Clowns to the left of Jokers in the house. Love ya all Shimmon
20. finally...
Greg ,   New York City   (07.11.07)
...Olmert said something that made sense. cherish this moment folks. it won't happen again lol.
21. Mike, you are not Jewish, so what's your beef
Shiloh   (07.11.07)
You being a Christian in a Jewish land has no say. It's our internal problem that we as Jews will have to deal with.
22. Olmert
Mark ,   westfield usa   (07.11.07)
In the diaspora where Jews are the minority, it is appropriate to say one is Jewish first or American first, but in Israel, which was re-established to be a Jewish nation, Judaism and Israeli nationality should go hand in hand! I am not saying that everyone needs to be Torah observant, as there are many varieties of Judaism. It is really time for Israel to hold elections and get this moron out!
23. Serving Two Masters
Stephen ,   Lowell United States   (07.11.07)
This description reminds us of serving two masters ~ two masters. Often the role results in either heaven or hell being manifested upon this earth right before your very open eyelids or that of your very closed eyelids. This is what it is like in Israel and everywhere else. Except the beloved children of this earth need Israel to be a servant of one master to see their beauty.
24. #8 & #10 - DOES OLMERT KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE A JEW - NO!
SID   (07.11.07)
HE DOES NOT HAVE THE SLIGHTEST IDEA OF HOW TO ACT IN A SYNAGOGUE NOR HOW TO APPEAR APPROPRIATLY DRESSED. HE WOULD NOT GO TO THE US PRESIDENT NOR THE POPE IN THE GARB HE APPEARS IN ON KOL NIDRE IN THE GREAT SYNAGOGUE - HE HAS A TOTAL LACK OF RESPECT FOR JUDAISM AS DO HIS NON SHABBAT OBSERVANT MINISTERS
25. Yaakov Lappin & Mr. Olmert
ben ,   singapore   (07.11.07)
I like this article, All our lives, we are waiting for something to happen... but that something is always connected with this place," BUT I NEVER WAITED I WORKED HARD , and waited in the Lrd G-d of Yisrael. Mr .Olmert is correct , from his heart and soul opn this one .; - )
26. Bright Future Indeed
David   (07.11.07)
With people like Olmert and his gang running Israel we don’t need a conference to tell us how bright our future is going to be. We can see it already.
27. Olmert, it's not working man!
A Watcher ,   Canada   (07.11.07)
they still don't like you...:)
28. I Would like to commend Olmert for getting it straight!!
David ,   NYC NY   (07.11.07)
As a nation, the Jewish people no matter what background or political leaning should all realize that they are Jewish first!! Seeing the world through the lens of a Jew vs. the lens of a citizen of a country called the State of Israel is entirely different.
29. Response
Brian ,   Flint, MI   (07.11.07)
There are nearly a million Muslims living in Israel out of total population of less than seven million. There are minorities of Christians and Turkmen and maybe a few who still think that Venus is the most powerful of all the Gods. Israel is a symbol of the plight of the Jewish people. Israel is the last stand. I am one quarter Jewish and I know nothing of the religion, save lighting the menorah, but if the war begins, my sword will surely be thrust. The man was saying that he is Jewish first because that is his nationality in the eyes of so many men. He was once Soviet and later Chinese, now Israeli. He will always be Jewish, and bigoted men will always hold the flame of difference to our feet. Israel is the stronghold...and if the war begins and America does not join...nearly thirty million people will be on boats and planes ready to be equipped with camo, rifle, canteen and boots.
30. PM: "I'm an idiot first, then a Jew, then an Israeli."
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (07.11.07)
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