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Anti-Zionism by 'progressive' Jews
Noa Levanon
Published: 16.07.07, 16:20
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31. #20, 21
Inyaki ,   Bilbao, Basque   (07.17.07)
#20, lies are often subjective, and are open to interpretations, most of the analysis sticks to facts which are re-interpreted in different ways. #21 Jews are very democratic and often have an very active internal debate. Sometimes the enemies of Israel take these debates out of context and bend them to their liking. The early debate between Christianity and Judaism was such an internal debate, the antisemites had a "great" use of it.
32. #31, really?
Danny   (07.17.07)
So it is a "matter of interpretation" or "subjective" that Jabotinsky made a speech 7 years after his death? Or that Herzl went to an opera 36 years after his? Personally, I think the kindest thing you can say about Jacqueline Rose is that she is an extremely poor academic, the question is why Princeton University Press is happy to publish books with such egarious errors...
33. English Guy
Steve ,   USA   (07.17.07)
English guy .. you posted this on the Assad thread : "Let's start a charity to buy suitcases to help all those sad and deluded people who set up their lives on the Golan on other people's properties. They have had their 40 year holiday and now it's time to go -either back to Brooklyn, or Moscow, or Tel Aviv. The world is now seeing that stealing land from your neighbours is no longer a tenable action. Time is ripe to give back what is not yours." Your attitude here about leftwing Jewish anti semites is now understandable. Let me guess, you also believe Israel was the aggressor in 1967 right ?
34. Danny # 32
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.17.07)
Why does Princeton publish this ? Do you think that they can verify the contents of every book they print ? They assume that those "authors" know about what they are writing , and do not write such "errors" . Many extreme writers , Websites , tb'ers , use the same manner of behaving . Lying and distorting writings in order to make them conform to their ideas . And this occurs at both sides of the political spectrum . Maybe also that Princeton University Press is looking for money , and prints controversial books , who makes the cash ringing .
35. #34, they do have editors and fact-checkers
Danny   (07.17.07)
So they should use them. If I wrote a maths textbook with the definition of addition wrong - sorry a contreversal interpretation of addition - you think Princeton would be publishing it? You think I would be taken seriously as a mathematician thereafter?
36. #29 It's worse than that
robbins ,   USA   (07.17.07)
Most anti-Zionists are not only make believe Jews most of them have no children and yet pretend to speak for the future of Jews.
37. #13- all valid points & well-written
Cameron ,   USA   (07.17.07)
38. Going back to the way they were
Caleb ,   USA   (07.17.07)
Up until recently the reform movement was anti-zionist. No surprise that a sector will give in to social pressures and go back to it.
39. ...and the children shall turn an evil eye
Josh   (07.18.07)
against their parents and the woman will grow selfish, etc, etc. Jeshurun grew fat and kicked. Back to the pashoot of Torah
40. Josh- Excellent TB, as usual.
Dave ,   Toronto, Canada   (07.18.07)
Josh, Again an excellent talk back from you. Are you a Karaite? I very much admire the Karaites, and consider them to be my Jewish brothers and sisters. However I have an emotional attachment to rabbinic Judaism, plus I like to put on tefileen when I can, even though its not in the Torah. You Karaites should start an outreach movement to non-Jews, since we rabbinic Jews are too messed up to bother with.
41. #5 to english guy
rachel ,   usa   (07.19.07)
you wrote: "You assume that people are so stupid that they cannot discern between rank propaganda and history books published by professors with good credentials" YES! AND YOU PROVE YOUR OWN POINT!!!!!!haahahahahahahah
42. Danny # 35
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.19.07)
But even those correctors and fact checkers A ] do'nt check everything B ] can't know everything and C ] can also make mistakes .
43. Everyone who disagrees with Israel is anti-semitic???
Arthur Dent ,   Canada   (07.21.07)
So if you oppose Israel's war crimes, it makes you anti-semitic? Israel is a country. Judaism is a religion. That the author of this article makes no distinction between the two is the basis of his flawed reasoning.
44. #42, I am sorry but..
Danny   (07.21.07)
If you are writing a book about Zionism should be aware of when Herzl was alive.
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