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Peres' remarks infuriate rightists
Amnon Meranda
Published: 15.07.07, 23:55
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31. 2 #6 "Pana Boriqua" you got it right on! Congrats 2 Peres!
sally forth ,   Jerusalem   (07.16.07)
32. tiresome right wing losers go away!
(07.16.07)
33. Hey Shiloh, why don't we just hang ourselves in that case?
Daniel ,   Formerly Israel   (07.16.07)
If all of Israel hangs itself simultaneously Hashem would have to come down pretty quick to save us all, huh? O don't you know that suicide is a sin?
34. #4: The spanish are your enemies, why?
abdulla ,   ashkenaz   (07.16.07)
35. Peres doesn't represent me!
Avraham ,   NETIVOT   (07.16.07)
Shimon Peres, the father of Oslo, will do his best to tear us apart & push his criminal agenda. Thank you Shas for bringing this Peres plague upon us!
36. Smeared Katzav long enough to get pure ha ha Peres in.
air hostess   (07.16.07)
No difference between them, both 'conquerors' of the fair sex, just different manouevres. One much more subtle, that's all.
37. Thank you Peres!
Andre ,   Australia / Israel   (07.16.07)
let's get rid of the territories! Maybe we should try an agreement and send the settlers to live in Palestine also. Since they love so much the LAND, they don't need to be protected by the STATE.
38. PERES WOULD YOU GIVE UP YOUR NICE HOME IN TA FOR PEACE.
MIKE ,   USA   (07.16.07)
IT LOOKES LIKE THAT PERES HAS NO PROBLEM WITH GIVEING PEOPLE LAND AND HOMES FOR A FAKE PEACE.I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THIS SO CALLED PEACE MAKER WOULD GIVE HIS HOME IN TA TO THE ARABS FOR A FAKE PEACE.IT'S EASY TO TAKE AND GIVE AWAY SOMETHING THAT IS NOT YOURS.
39. Shas is Aligned with the Erev Rav
Paul ,   Jerusalem   (07.16.07)
Those who voted for Shas, voted against G-d, and against his Torah. Do you need more proof than the election of this criminal to understand Shas acts without wisdom, but only for financial gain.
40. We need to get rid of the presidency instead.
Ariel ,   Judean Hills   (07.16.07)
It's a huge waste of money. Let Peres pay use his own money for wasteful parties and junkets to all parts yonder.
41. To #4 - No Steve - George Bush 1 is to blame!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (07.16.07)
The whole terrorist problem, whether it is in Israel or anywhere else in the world, was caused by George Bush 1 when he forced Israeli Prime Minister Shamir to attend the Madrid Conference. With all the Likud's and the NRP's "Left Bashing", Shamir went to Madrid and the Likud, under Bibi Netanyahu, gave back Hebron after shaking the hand of Yasser Arafat at Wye Plantation during the Clinton Administration. Shamir had the sense to say "NO!" You don't talk to terrorists and that's that! By the way, Shas is a Haredi (Ultra Orthodox) Party and is not a Zionist Party. However, like the other politicians in this country, it will sell its soul for cash and power. Shas' decisions, as are the decisions of most of the politicians in this country, are not based on what "it can do for the country" but what it can take from the country. On the credit side, Shas does seem to have more of a social conscience when it comes to helping its supporters. However, never forget that like the Ashkenazi Haredim, it is a fanatical religious party which does not tolerate any deviation from its version of Halacha and is totally anti anything secular. Of course, the Halachaic rulings are based on monetary values!
42. #39 Paul: Evil Tongue, you clearly uninformed
abdulla ,   ashkenaz   (07.16.07)
43. Peres the Loser
yehudi ,   nyc, usa   (07.16.07)
Peres: "…I changed my position. I didn't change my beliefs." Now you tell me, does that make any sense?
44. DAVID FROM LOS ANGLES, YOUR IGNORANCE PRECEDES YOU
David ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.16.07)
I, being Sephardi, am ashamed of what R' Yosef did in support of Peres, to begin with. If, in your contention, we must give land to save life. Then I ask you, if we gave land and it causes death, as we see has happened in actuality, should we continue to give land? Your convoluted logic is so frightening and obsurd. The facist left insist on continuing to give land to the arabs despite all experiential and known logic. It is you who have allowed your shameful politics to color your concept of Torah. To #15 facism doesn't allow dissent and does what it wants despite all logic. That describes the left-wing and Olmert in his intolerance of the majority of Israel.
45. #41 dawid: evil tongue about sha"s is ill informed
abdulla ,   ashkenaz   (07.16.07)
46. #25 David 29&37 Andre 39 Paul
Yisraeli   (07.16.07)
You see David who loves your piece this shtick drek Andre a sonei yisrael. Paul I fully agree with you Shas is with the erev rav, theres no doubt about it so are the other drek UTJ. They only worship the almighty dollar and couldnt care less about eretz yisrael. Dont think just because one looks like a frumie and keeps shabbat they cant be part of the erev rav. On the contrary l'hefech many of them are. Go study about the erev rav on thirtysix.org and you will see how many so called rabbeim of ketz hayamim belong to the erev rav and we all see it by their actions in this dor. And to use the argument of giving up admat eretz yisrael l'maan pikuch nefesh is the biggest excuse and shtuss one can ever dream up. why then didnt Shlomo Hamelech or David Hamelech give up land to amalek or others to save 1 life. Such narishkeit only the erev rav can dream up. Go Moshe Feiglin, MF for PM.
47. If President Peres's ideas CAN save lives..
abdulla ,   ashkenaz   (07.16.07)
then it is moral to support him. Clearly, his ideas are at odds with the pseudo-messianic mitnahelim view of the territories or the state of isreal or greater israel. Those who have the pseudo-messianic view actually have a lot of support financial, including from evangelical xtians (over 100 million), and moral from various religious authorities to pursue their right of self-determination, even at the expense of jewish lives and more bloodshed in the land of yisro'el. However, other religious torah authorities who reject this pseudo-messianic view, as traditional judiasm has rejected since the time of the amoraim (talmudic sages). The traditional torah view has been that the true commonwealth of am yisro'el is to be divinely established by the true Jewish messiah but everything possible should be done in the meantime to save jewish lives, pikuach nefesh. The jewish state of israel can serve the role of saving jewish lives, in a sometimes hostile non-jewish world. However, this requires a diplomatic approach and i think that is the approach of the new Israeli President. Haslaha lakhem!!
48. Mr.Peres sure Made a Hit with Jimmy Carter,Rice,& GW.!
Roy c. Hudson ,   Pittsburg, USA   (07.16.07)
After 59+ years and all that have died for the Israel Home land in my time. & now this is the Mentality at the top in Israel. Daniel: 4;17-18 God is showing the world the basest of the leaders in all the Nations. and now we see Mr.Olmert,& Mr. Peres in this Hour. the words, Basest of Men, i take it as the living Dog to lead the Pack.! Look ar the world leaders over the past 2000 years and call them by name, they all made history. The USA is now on the list that God has all made up now, Read the Mind of God in Zechariah; 12;1-10 God said: I will seek away to destroy all Nations,& People that fight against Israel, Jerusalem,my land,my true jews when i put them back in their own land. Mr. Olmert & Mr, Peres are two wedges in the House to wake up the 12 tribes of Jacob. The God of Israel never slumbers or sleeps. He sets up Kings and he moves them out. Daniel 9;27 will be that last one to make the BIG deal to come. Isa:28-14 -23 a Jimmy Carter Mentality in a pair of Jews will do it for Jacobs last trouble on earth. The EU Man with his Global rule of Law is at the Door now. Hey, this is my own personal study, I like you have a stake in the Future, so we still have a say what fools do in our life. I am ashamed of GW Bush & his Rice and the Land for Peace. it is Impossible to give God's Land to the PLO. Take Gods word for it, ! ! Roy c. Hudson USA
49. new president
Ron Amidan ,   New York   (07.16.07)
now is the time for the new president to arise above politics and stay clear away from it. no degridation, no humilation just presidential 'stuff''
50.  Peres Massively INSULTS G-D & G-D's Gift Given to Every Jew
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (07.16.07)
for ALL Eternity - Israel. What G-D has given to every Jew for ALL eternity CANNOT be given away by any man! Despising G-D, Judaism and the Jewish Holy Land, Peres bows low to Islam, wickedly seeking to render a quarter of a million Jews homeless. Peres pleases expansionist global Islam and the US/EU, but displeases G-D. G-D is a G-D to be feared! My flesh trembles for fear of You, and I am afraid of Your judgments. Psalm 119
51. Why not move Israel to the Amazon ? N/C
Stan ,   JHB RSA   (07.16.07)
52. Couple curious issues
bane ,   canada   (07.17.07)
Is this issue about the power of the president to enter political issues? Is a president allowed to voice his concern. And about peace in israel, does the torah say that the land that the israel people live in have to be called ISRAEL? or does it just say its theirs? Is this political issue or religious issue? and about how people say that the land god gave to certain people that no man shall take away. What does it say about land that was given by man? I know for a fact that through out the ages, there have been jewish people that have sold land in israel for money, what does that say about their moral beliefs. Here is a possible solution, Merge all the Israeli land with Gaza and West Bank, have everybody live together under same rules, but have it 2 different name for the countries, and after like 20 years, have a majority vote for the country name, but they can either call it either israel or palestine, or if no agreement reached, then they can call it ANY NAME other than israel or palestine. if 2 sides cant reach a mutual beneficial decision, someone has to sit down the children and mediate something that is livable, instead of continuing killing each other.
53. I only expected this leftnik to complicate matters
jack bauer ,   usa   (07.18.07)
and lo and behold he already has. I think that maybe Israel might graciously concede, for now, the claim upon the territories between the jordan river and the euphrates river. Israel is the land of the Jews, and sorry but Judea/Samaria are part of it
54. President - shmesident!! - END
BB ,   jerusalem   (07.19.07)
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