B"H Just like he forced a kiss, he figures he can force Jews out and get a promotion! Katsav may be down, but that is because Katsav did not follow Ramon's example; it is not that Katsav is relatively innocent, but rather the nature of Ramon's guilt that bothers me here.

HE'S GOING TO BE THE HATCHET MAN FOR OLMERT!

Lebanon was handed back, now rockets are launched over the border. Gaza was handed back, now rockets are launched across the border. Now the new plan is to hand the West Bank back? Take a wild guess as to what will be coming over the border a few months after that happens. The Arabs see realignment as retreat. It only encourages their violently inclined elements.

throwing our land away, just to give them a better position to destroy us (see hisballah and gaza.) Do you hate Israel? Do you want to destroy it?

and leave the land of Israel alone.

Isn't this disgusting? The problem is that Israelis just don't care. Other countries have a real "Orange Revolution," but the Israeli voter just kvetches and yawns. Half a million people preventing ilmert from getting to work and surrounding the Knesset (and "Supreme Court") might send a message. 100% refusal to go to work would as well. Refusal to report for military service. Serious things, these.

lebanon , itnatkout, now realignement...with the help of the haredim they want to destroy israel !

Now that FATAH (Imean the PA),has been sainted as nice new neighbors, lets give them land ,money, arms,recognition...Then of course they'llbe a fine new peace partner. Talk about puting cold cream over the cancer...Just follow the wise policy oPres Bush and Sec Rice.PROVEN IDIOTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE MIDDLE EAST...Well if Israel hasn't learned the "BENIFITS" of leaving South Lebanon and Gaza I imagine leaving Judea and Samaria (I mean "THE WEST BANK") will bring untold greater "benifits" of a similar nature..Then give Jerusalem...After all what need does a Jewish State have for Jerusalem, Hebron, Beit El, and the rest as long as it keeps the holy city of Tel Aviv.

citizens of israel you must rise up and get rid of this criminal traitorous incompotent pathetic governmet,either through a ballot or a bullet,if not all is lost you might as well all pack it in,and close the lights

Israel must not be allowed to create facts on the ground by use of illegal settlements. The full and complete withdrawal from all land it siezed in 1967 is the only way to peace, in compliance with UNSCR 242 and the only option fair to those dispossesed by Israel's campaign of ethnic cleansing. If Israel refuses, then it should be given all of the West Bank as conquerers and those living there should demand full and equal citizenship as Israeli citizens. Israel wants to get away with ethnic cleansing, and that cannot be allowed. Remember that the phrase " Never Again!" did not apply to Jews only.

If the settlers offer to give their daughters to Ramon can they keep their homes.

maybe he finally caught something that affects his common sense.i saw a picture the other day of arafat with his hands in a death grip around abbas cheeks while he was puckering up and also a picture of olmert giving abbas the kiss treatment before giving him 2000 m16s rifles.i think aides does eventually make you lose your mind-if you had 1 to start with.what a great bunch of "leaders"

shmuck.

Hareidim are the ones making a huge demographic contribution to the state. If not for them, situation would have been worse demographically. These are Jewish people committed to their rich Jewish heritage. What do hilonim and masoratim at large do to seriously increase the Jewish population in the land???

B"H Let us face it. We in the United States would face a delayed response from its withdrawal from Iraq versus an immediate response for Israel if it did not secure its territory. One can walk across Israel in a day. Israel cannot afford this talk of giving up the security of the land.

Perhaps ramon and olmert think that by giving away 70% they can prevent Hitlery from demanding they give away 200%

Olmert and his gangsters are destroying not only Israel but also any future it could have had were it not for them.

If he was jailed, then he could cause less damage to Israel. Ramon will be the weapon that olmert will use to surrender to the enemy.

B"H It is the Jews that need to watch out with never again. Why do the Arabs need a state? For funding. No that can be gotten through Israel. For weapons. No that can also be aquired through Israel. To open the boarder to a hord of people when those in Gaza have not been fed, yes. It is complete abandonment of responsibility. Never again would be to not allow for such a state of irresponsibility. Only Israel can enforce responsiblity right now at the state level. Other people may have a valuable contribution, but statehood is not it for Abbas because statehood implies the ability to import hords of immigrants and not feed them, and that is not acceptable. As soon as Abbas gets his state, the other Arab states would force their hordes down his throat and overpopulate it. If you really mean never again does not apply just to the Jews then insist Hamas feed the people in Gaza before Abbas is tasked with importing more and leaving these additional Arabs starving. Only Israel is capable of instilling sanity into the region.

einstein said that the defintion of insanity is repeating the same action twice and expecting different results. doesn't the whole world see what happened after the "disengagment" plan. do we really need more of that??? God save us.

# 21, STEVE , you can "walk across Israel" in 2 hours. I did it many years ago.

He treated settlers fairly??? I suppose it was fair when he threw me and my family out of our home, took away our livelihood, denied us fair compensation, and basically left us to rot with no plan for how we are to rebuild our lives. Maybe he should try going through what we did - and are no where near through this "via dolorosa" that he initiated for us - perhaps then he would rethink his statement that he treated us fairly.

Why is this man the vice-premier? I thought in Israel, if you are convicted of a crime, you can not be a minister for 10 years...e.g. Deri......... Is Olmert getting Ramon to do his dirty work? Didn't the government learn anything from the diaster withdrawal of Gush Katif? THIS GOVERNMENT MUST FALL NOW!

I remember him saying on ABC News Nightline program, when asked about the settlers: "WE WILL CRUSH THEM..." What a farce.