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Justice Ministry uncovers rabbinical ordination fraud
Aviram Zino
Published: 18.07.07, 13:33
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1. Rabbi Ordination Fraud
Marlene ,   Israel   (07.18.07)
Is there any department/office in this country where there is no fraud. This is a disgrace and they should all be prosecuted and jailed. Our rabbi's have so much to say and preach about others, they need to be punished to the fullest extent.
2. the problem extends beyond the robbonus
Troglodyte   (07.18.07)
of israel. emissaries of the lubavicher rebbe, are still being produced in record speed with minimal studies. going to "serve" communities with minimal knowledge. (though the zeal is there-- for the movement, parnosseh etc...).
3. oh pious ones...not!
Sharon ,   Tel Aviv   (07.18.07)
Who forced me into a mikveh, which was during my menses for convenience (serves them right) , treated my conservative rabbi like dirt at my wedding, who tells me my parents ketubah wasn't enough proof of jewishness, who dodge the army and avoid work and make me change my seat on planes. Yes these parasites have pulled another scam (with others) and once again I grieve that I am stuck in this country which prohibits religious freedom and allows us to be ruled by mullah-style religious councils. God help this country.
4. Religion and religious leaders are all frauds!
naro ,   nyc   (07.18.07)
What do you expect from people who promote religious fantasies!
5. #3 Amen to THAT Shaz!
Talula ,   Israel   (07.18.07)
They are a filthy bunch of thieves and liars that steal and commit fraud to fill their pockets. Stick them in jail, the lot of them and throw away the key. They make me cringe, I HATE THEM. Feh! Oh! and after they have done a stint in jail, make them do their compulsory military service.
6. rabbis, crooks, religion
joe   (07.18.07)
Our learned friends are being taught how to steal from JEWS. the content of their books must be quite fascinating. And they are the one preaching morality and accusing Hamas & fatah stealing billions from the poor. They must attend the same classes. Unless of a coverup, it's only the tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, the only adjectif going thru my mind is ' SLIME'
7. what a surprise: our croo... I mean, rabbis...
mordechai ,   Israel   (07.18.07)
8. Now, Now Assimilationists lets not jump to conclusions
Lev Ben Aryeh ,   US   (07.18.07)
Just because people in Israel have been "working the System" has little to do pietey. So calling all Haredim crooks is way over doing it. There are bad apples in every group and the biggest enemy of the Jewish people is actually the Secular Self Hating Assimilationists that are killing "US" faster than the Goyim did! So relax and learn a little before you judge.
9. Amnon Levy program-police and gov workers-same fraud
Tevye ,   Chelm   (07.18.07)
Nothing new, it happens everywhere. See Amnon Levy Show last night (17/07 tuesday), showing government and police and army officials, following studies and receiving a graduation certificate, and the courses where all nothing, they were - in the best case, only attending while no course was given, or didnt show up at all. In this specific case it was in Rishon Lezion. Everyone is doing it, why not, the government echelon are a fraud by themselves. Why are you documenting this case as if its something special? Sure, since they're clergy men they should behave (and know) better than doing this stuff. Israel ; a banana republic!
10. Every day icomes a new scandal.
(07.18.07)
I am so disappointed. What happened to "ohr la'goyim|"
11. to #3
miri   (07.18.07)
I couldn't say it any better. Thanks for your words. Too bad they'll fall on deaf ears but you are oh-so right.
12. EMES
Nossen TZvi ,   Jerusalem   (07.18.07)
#2 troglo..... my sons and I spent this last weekend with a Chabad rabbi in Canada.The rabbi learns , teaches and preaches with knowledge and dignity. His synagogue is in better shape than his home. My thankful donation was given by the rabbi to community works- summer day camp ,nursery school , shul etc. Why are we so quick to talk evil about good Jews and even better rabbis. Emes - truth is the basis of all good.
13. all religious people=evil??
ash ,   gush etzion   (07.18.07)
it is ridiculous and self-serving to equate all rabbis and religious people iwth the actions of a few. should all religious people think that all non-religious people are evil because of a result of a few.....of course not. there are stupid and bad people in every grouping. i ahve heard too many times that religious people are fanatics and the cause of all wars, violence,etc. actually if u look at the 20 century those avidly against religion killed more people than religion did in centuries, ie stalin, hitler, pol pot,etc
14. One free English lesson for # 6
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (07.18.07)
Slime, thief, liar, robbery, filth, disgust, sob and cheater are nouns. Slimy, disgusting, thieving, filthy and lying are adjectives. :-)
15. DO NOT JUDGE G'D' AND RELIGION BY THE PEOPLE
ALWAYS IS A SATAN ,   THOSE PEOPLE FELL   (07.18.07)
YOU JEW HATERS YOU ARE THE SATAN YOURSELF LOOK IN THE MIRROR SEE YOU EVIL HARED THAT YOU CALL OTHERS LOOK AT YOUR XTIANS AND ISLAMS KILLING THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY **WE ARE ALL HUMAN THAT CAN FALL*** LOOK IN YOUR MIRROR SEE YOUR FACE THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO REPENT THANK YOU DACON9
16. YOU CONDEM G'D BECAUSE OF A SCAM???
I CONDEMN WOMAN ,   FROM YOUR INSULT   (07.18.07)
NO LOGIC NO REASONING TO MY WORDS AND THEN NOT TO YOUR CONDEMNATION EITHER RIGHT? THE FAKERS FELL TO THIS MATERIEL WORLD WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE? WHAT EVER IT IS YOU FELL....... BUT THE 'ONE G'D OF ISRAEL SAID WE CAN REPENT
17. They are needed to perform conversions
(07.18.07)
More fake rabbis=more fake conversions
18. Yet Another Confirmation Why Logic Must Trump Rabbis (3rd)
Paqid 16 Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (07.18.07)
Certainly, this khilul ha-Sheim doesn't reflect most Orthodox rabbis. Nevertheless, it is yet another confirmation that while the logical interpretation of Torah is always true, right and reliable, the men who presume authority to interpret it are frail and error-prone. We need the Orthodox Rabbis and Batei Din to preclude the heresy of assimilation (secular Eisau-ism and non-Orthodox imitations), but we live in an era that the Orthodox laity are now literate, educated and, therefore, obligated to hold the Rabbis and Batei Din responsible and accountable to logical implications of Torah in contrast to convoluted arguments to justify what they wish to do. Logic applied to Torah exposes and discredits the sanctimonious and confirms the true. PS: the most popular Israeli Jewish newspaper not publishing candlelighting times on Yom Shishi in its on-line counterpart is a disservice to Jewish readers and a disgrace to Israel. Even ha-Aretz publishes candlelighting times on Yom Shishi. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
19. PAQID, THIS IS NT YOUR AFFAIR, YOU ARE NOT A JEW TO COMMENT.
PAQID ANOTHER FAKER ,   ..............DACON9   (07.18.07)
20. This may not be directly related, but
Debbie ,   Seattle   (07.18.07)
I always felt suspicious of "Rabbis for Human Rights". How legitimate are they? Who are they, really? Who ordained them?
21. At least nobody died
(07.18.07)
Read the comptroller's report.
22. Paqid ! messianic [ non ] jew
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.18.07)
Go back to you church , you are not a jew .
23. Dacon , we can repent ?
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.18.07)
In the mean time , lets take some money from the hard working seculars [ said by those "religious" ] After Yom Kippour it will be OK , and we can begin again [ same "people" ]
24. Charles Anonymous Eisau & Brooklyn Anonymous Child (2nd)
Paqid 16 Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (07.18.07)
You're both slanderers out of the same pod, clueless about Israeli Orthodox Judaism. No one appointed either one of you any kind of authority to contradict the rulings of the Orthodox rabbis. I don't know that either one of you anonymous twits is even a Jew. Charles freely admits he's outside of Orthodox Judaism and neither of you act like a Jew. You both are in the same pod with the 2-3 gentile Christians and the anonymous London slanderer (whatever happened to the Beit Din threat??? You found out that former Chief Rabbi Mardechai Eliyahu wrote a letter to me extending his blessings and it's in one of my books???) who chime in with you when it comes to slandering, ignorance of the Orthodox rulings, lying and misrepresenting. Come out from under your rock and identify yourself if you think you can defend yourself in court. You can't deal with the content of the message so you slander, monger hate, lie and misrepresent. You're both liars and cowards and I doubt anyone outside of your 4-5 supporters pays any attention to your repetitious ad hominems. PS: the most popular Israeli Jewish newspaper not publishing candlelighting times on Yom Shishi in its on-line counterpart is a disservice to Jewish readers and a disgrace to Israel. Even ha-Aretz publishes candlelighting times on Yom Shishi. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
25. Turo College
phillip ,   NYC USA   (07.18.07)
I wonder if any of the Rbbis obtain their degree from Turo College here in NY. There is a developing story about students buying degrees.
26. Let's all become outraged at the religious!
Take the heat ,   off Olmert   (07.18.07)
YNet gives the masses a boogeyman to hate so that Olmert's crimes will be ignored.
27. Clerk Jeremy Ranaana
Gil ,   KS   (07.18.07)
Stop reading ynet. Simple. Bye . Like the other hypocrite who's an expert on breasts and womens clothing. Read ONLY newspapers that tell you what time Shabbat comes in. Ynet certainly don't need YOU, but you seem to desparately need Ynet, to feed your fragile ego by seeing your meaningless voodoo signature in print.
28. Paqid , the messianic guy
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.18.07)
Your allegedly "orthodox" "synagogue" is not to find in Raanana's list of orthodox Synagogues . It's listed as a messianic "prayer" place .
29. Dacon 9 , my # 23
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.18.07)
Is not directed at all the religious of course , only at those "religious" who are accused . You know , there are many people who distord writings , and here they could do it
30. to the Troglodite
Ezra   (07.18.07)
You are so right ! Shame on these Lubavichers who give cheap jewish education to 60.000 kids, opened 3.000 jewish centers dedicated to torah education and assist every jew everywhere. Shame on them for acting when people like you are just talking, talking and talking.
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