standing up for Torah and not retreating to a ghetto. Even in your Kansas, stand up for Judaism and Israel -- not yet another anonymous phony -- or stop pretending you're a Jew. That's much more true here in Israel. You assimilated and misojudaic anonymous secular Eisaus do your best to drive the Orthodox into a ghetto and then accuse us of not contributing to the very society that spews venom at us. There's nothing more phony and fake than hiding behind anonymity. PS: the most popular Israeli Jewish newspaper not publishing candlelighting times on Yom Shishi in its on-line counterpart is a disservice to Jewish readers and a disgrace to Israel. Even ha-Aretz publishes candlelighting times on Yom Shishi. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

Suddenly, I don't even think you live in Petakh Tiqveh, much less that you're a Jew. ANY Jew in Israel can easily confirm Moreshet Avot is the largest Teimani Beit K'nesset in Ra'anana, on Shvartz St. Even any Jew in the Diaspora knows how to check with the Rabbinate in Ra'anana to verify an Orthodox Beit K'nesset. You're an anonymous phony and misojudaic like your gentile Christian supporters. Not only do you shame the memory of your claimed ancestors (probably phony as well) who, you claim, passed down a family Bible (Christian?), your whole meaning in life hinges on your belief in the absence of God, which means your whole meaning in life depends on Orthodox Jews being wrong and Judaism being wrong in order for you to be right. To validate your own outlook of life requires invalidating Orthodox Jews and Judaism, fueling your hatred of Orthodox Jews and Judaism -- which is misojudaism. Putting belief in the absence of god before ha-Sheim is no less idolatry than putting belief in a rival god before ha-Sheim. Thus, Charles Anonymous the Eisau and phony is no different than his gentile Christian supporters, and his misojudaism is identical. Atheism is no less another religion than Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam or any other religion. Charles is a meshumad no less than the Jews for J*esus / "messianic Jews" he vilifies -- and for the same reason. Because Charles Anonymous the fake is filled with hate more than Jews for J*esus, and he hates Torah more than Jews for J*esus, he is an inferior to any self-respecting Jews for J*esus. I suspect that some Jews for J*esus will make teshuvah and return to the fold before Charles Anonymous. Despite being meshumadim, they're already better Jews than him. What a maroon!!! PS: the most popular Israeli Jewish newspaper not publishing candlelighting times on Yom Shishi in its on-line counterpart is a disservice to Jewish readers and a disgrace to Israel. Even ha-Aretz publishes candlelighting times on Yom Shishi. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

standing up for Torah and not retreating to a ghetto. Even in your Kansas, Jews should stand up for Judaism and Israel. But you sound like yet another gentile Christian who doesn't like being shown how false Christianity is. Jews standing for Torah is much more important here in Israel. Gentile Christians and assimilated and misojudaic anonymous secular Eisaus do your best to drive the Orthodox into a ghetto and then accuse us of not contributing to the very society that spews venom at us. There's nothing more phony and fake than hiding behind anonymity. PS: the most popular Israeli Jewish newspaper not publishing candlelighting times on Yom Shishi in its on-line counterpart is a disservice to Jewish readers and a disgrace to Israel. Even ha-Aretz publishes candlelighting times on Yom Shishi. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

In mY next life I wanna be Bhuddist...

What a nebbech laughing stock you are that without ynet you can't bring in Shabbat. What a joke.If it helps rid us of your drivel, I hope they never ever print candle lighting times. We receive this information from the Mishpacha paper/magazine every week, moron. Unlike you and jerusalem d(v)ude, we dont use fake reasons for scouring ynet. Its a secular publication, like your rubbish. Sorry ynet, didn't mean that. Just dont print christmas candle time for Jerry can from Ran.Thanks

Come out of your hole in the ground and BUY a paper, you fake nut. We the religious, unlike you, turn off computers way before Shabbat comes in. Anyone religious ( ie.not you) with such a pathetically hysterical need for ynet is not religious. NO RELIGIOUS person needs or seeks out ynet for Shabbat info. But YOU do, which just shows...

...taking the place between man and G-d is fraud. The idea that they can take the place of Levi and Kohen is also a fraud. The added books they teach are chet (you shall not add a word or take away a word) They teach magic canatations against Torahs requirement to give G-d an orginal prayer. They have brought magic into the tants of Jacob, read the prophets who tell the tale of a sinning San Herin. Torah does not mention these men but speaks of judges that administer to the make judgements - not new books and laws. So who cares if their ordination is fraudulent too?

live by and depend on computer info. People who have always been religious use the established methods, newspapers, diaries, calendars, bet knesset/shul notices etc etc. No religious person uses needs or depends on the internet for Shabbat times. It's in every Friday newspaper, again something every real Jewish household has always bought according to their affiliation and interest. What a drug the internet is to the nouveau jew. Sad.

That's why i wrote "religious"[ with " " ] and explained this later

Almost every Jewish calendar prints Shabbat times . You can also buy a small agenda with the same informations .

Who cares if their ordination is fraud ? you ask . The tax payers , do'nt forget that they do it for money , big money , OUR money .

How do you dare to insult true JEWS , even if they comitted fraud , by comparing them to this paqid , who is a fraud from begin to end . At least you should have added : lehavdil

! What image of Jews you give

I am not Jewish. Who has forced you to change your seat on planes ?I personally find that particularly vile and an absolute lack of elementary courtesy. Everything you wrote seems to me so incredible in 2007! God bless you and your family.

60,000 kids, 3,000 centres. 100,000 reasons to cry for the judaism that we love, being distorted, robbed and abused by cheats!

Fine , be shoked , i'll enjoy

We just received the pleasant email message from our Bet Knesset with the times of Shabbat in our district. (Even without it, we'd manage ha ha.) But that's a service given by some Batei Knesset to their members, and that's one way that it's done in true and real religious Shomer Shabbat families, ok? Got the picture yet? It's about belonging to a synagogue and not relying on a sad annonymous online newspaper.

Even a secular, as a member of Jewish community, should be too a light to others. Rejoicing when others have to make a difficult life is just despicable. The Lord is watching and recording all statements made by all his children. Have you ever read - I doubt it - that God said (Matthew 10:30) : "And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered."

i have just seen a site with the Heading : ministry of absorption . www2.netvision.net.il . This site was praising you and your beliefs as an orthodox one . I was very doubdfull about this site , and right . The TRUE ministry of absorption site is www.moia.gov.il . This is absolutely FRAUD . you are trying to convince people that your website is official , but as you , a FAKE one

who are hidding their names , and writing anonymously . Will not consider your tb's as relevant , and not answer them anymore . For me you can : Redden tse de want .

If its broke fix it. Ok I am paraphrasing - but the point is the same: There is something wrong that is detrimental to the Jews as a tribe of Israel. This in effect of Torah means curses are falling on the heads of eople who don't deserve them. If people passed the test of proving that they love Hashem, they would recognize what is and is not his. Torah is clear and broght to us by Moses who was chosen by G-d to tell us what G-d wants. No one who follows a Rabbi believes they can get Torah for themseleves dispite Mosses assuring them that they need no one to get iit for them. In the process these men have continued the sinnning from the last days of the temple unitl today with many added additions. I am sorry if you don't like the picture but it is the true picture. The Jews did like the picture the prophets painted and I will bet they hated the critcism, however because of this G-d devastated them and the temple. Hear my words for their truth and don't be blind to their points. ...lastly don't lump me in with Charles and Dacon9. That is a cheap shot and will not discount accountability in heaven for what I warn about. They are not prophets and they mislead Israel - you shall not fear them.

I am Orthodox. This story really hurts me. It is so sad that almost all of Israeli society is corrupt. We have a lot of tikun to do.