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Moroccan king nominated for Righteous Among Nations title
Itamar Eichner
Published: 20.07.07, 15:11
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1. Arab or not,...
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (07.20.07)
if Muhammad V saved Jews at the risk of his life and throne, he should be honored.
2. Its about time, I think.
abdulla ,   ashkenaz   (07.20.07)
3. What does the picture have to do with the article?
Yosef ,   Jerusalem   (07.20.07)
4. Should be Honoured. Always Knew this
Semsem ,   New York, USA   (07.20.07)
This fact is well known that the King saved the Jews of Morocco. Vichy France wanted the Jews of Morocco deported to Europe.
5. Fact or Fiction
Jerry Sussman ,   Alexandria, USA   (07.20.07)
I have no problem honoring the King if the stories about his benefiscence toward the Jews be true. But methinks some of what he is purported to have done may be as true as the myth of the Danes. The myth is that the King of Denmark wore a Star of David to show solidarity with Danish Jews; the reality is that the Germans did not require Danish Jews to wear a Star of David, and the King of Denmark had no reason to do so and did not. The King of Morocco may not have deported Jews at the behest of the French Government; however, I understand that during his WW II reign, Morocco had its share of pogroms during which dozens of Jews were killed. Contrast this with Bulgaria. Though a Nazi ally, as many Bulgarian Jews survived WW II as were Jews living in Bulgaria before WW II.
6. KING
A V ,   london .uk   (07.20.07)
The king Mohammad V was great king to all .we were happy to be moroccan and its not suprise to hear the moroccan any where in the world still missing that wonderfull country ,we were before the arabs in morocco
7. well realpolitik meant that he
jack bauer ,   usa   (07.20.07)
probably didnt risk his life or throne for these decisions, since the vichy govt. was weak and in no position to deal with an internal arab uprising supported by the allies. Which is likely to have happened if vichy tried to depose him over it. That said he should still be honored for what he did.
8. French Jews in Morocco were deported
Jake   (07.20.07)
Ashkenazi French "pieds noirs" were deported from Morocco by the Vichy regime, and the King did not protest. Also there were forced labor camps set up in the Moroccan desert, and a number of Moroccan Jews were sent there. At any rate, as the article says "This initiative is being promoted by head of the Jewish community in Morocco, Serge Bardugo, who was recently appointed roaming ambassador by king Muhammad VI of Marocco.. "
9. But didn't the government of morocco
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.20.07)
have the names, addresses, ages and bank accounts and property of all the Jews recorded? There were also five camps built to hold the Jews. These camps were later used to hold german p.o.w.s after the U.S. Army captured morocco.
10. It is well earned. But will anyone come to receive it?
Zvi   (07.20.07)
That's what has me puzzled.
11. ...with all due respect to President Peres' ..
Qurqevan   (07.20.07)
Officials at Yad Vashem said that with all due respect to President Peres' endorsement, neither his nor ..... trouble is, he -King Mohammad al Khamess saved frenkim and not vuzvuzim. that would make him possul. also, after the germans received hechsher recently and berlin became a chabad capital, it is the the eerebs who are now the enemy of record. i wouldn't bet the farm on the king being honoured anytime soon. but who really needs to be honoured by those anyway?
12. That's right he did it, and called for all Moroccan to
Simon Mohammed ,   Falls Church, VA USA   (07.20.07)
Protect each other starting from the point that we are all Moroccan. While Jews were targeted arround every were , King Mohammed V Alerted the Moroccan people of their duties to protect theirs targeted brother and sister and we all did it. He accepted the asylum rather then selling the whole country. and He prevail and so Morocco and Moroccan with him.
13. Not arabs are bad then...
Nabil ,   Morocco   (07.20.07)
we did save jews , it is a fact.do we have the right to criticize israel's apartheid , now?
14. Nabil, fact? What fact?
Jake   (07.21.07)
Is there any fact which has been decided in this article? Read. Even the title is followed by a question mark. Maybe you woild like to explain why Nazi war criminals were testifying in Nuremberg that Amin al Husseini, the Palestinian Grand Mufti, was one of the architects of the 'final solution'. Perhaps its was due to 'Israeli Apartheid'.
15. #13 - Yes
Aharon ,   TA   (07.21.07)
You may criticize our "apartheid", but give evidence to support you if you are going to do so! We have a huge number of Arab MKs and Arab citizens in Israel that have the same opportunities open to them as Jews. I don't see the apartheid.
16. 13
James ,   Canada   (07.21.07)
Do we have a right to criticize islamic apartheid?
17. how right wingers: Did the cat eat you tounges?
Rami ,   Nazareth, Israel   (07.21.07)
According to you a good arab is a dead one... where did all the hate posts go? you should be up in arms against this..????
18. Nabil and Apartheid
GZLives ,   US   (07.21.07)
You always the right to criticize Israel Nabil but you don't have the right to invent new meanings for words like Apartheid or genocide or ethnic cleansing which is something you are clearly doing if you accuse Israel of being Apartheid. Ask any S African and they will tell you its nonsense.
19. To Nabil #13. That Right To
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (07.21.07)
You write :".. the right to criticize ...". HOW about using that right to criticize the West-Bank Arabs for occupying Judea and Samaria, presently known as the West Bank ?!
20. To AV #6. Original Inhabitants Of Morocco ?
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (07.21.07)
You write :".., we were before the Arabs in Morocco". THAT means the Berbers were the original inhabitants of Morocco ? In that case the Arabs are OCCUPIERS of Morocco. Isn't it ??? BTW IF it is true that King Muhammad V saved Jews during WW II he should be decorated.
21. Arabs and jews coexisted for a long time
Aman ,   Como, Italy   (07.21.07)
Throughout history, arabs were the only people sympathetic to the jews and they coexisted and offered them asylym from the crusaders of europe (spain, germany, france etc...). Europeans have always killed and abused the jews till WW2 but arabs and moslims offered them shelter. Until zionism came and ruined this relationship. Jews were ungrateful to the arabs and moslims.
22. Zvi # 10 , Has not to come
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.21.07)
Not all the persons who were awarded the "Righteous of the Nations" titls came to Israel . They receive their award at a ceremony organised in their country
23. No. 21 Aman
NYC Girl   (07.21.07)
You seem to be suffering from selective amnesia since you conveniently overlooked the alliance between the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and Adolph Hitler and the Mufti's offer to help the Nazis with a final solution to the "Jewish problem" in Palestine.before there was a State of Israel. For some reason, a whole myth has developed around the Arab beneficence toward the Jews who lived under their control. And while it's true that the Jews fared better in the Muslim World than they did in Christian Europe, they were still a minority who were discriminated against with oppressive taxation and various prohibitions on their personal freedoms. But, unfortunately, you've chosen to embrace that self-serving narrative of blaming the Jews, which can't help but call your credibility into question.
24. Apartheid?
Nabil ,   Morocco   (07.21.07)
i see some facts ,maybe i am wrong , and i ask you to correct me : 1-Israel is a Nation only for jews, right? how can it be a democracy then, where all religions should be respected....?. 2-1.5 million of gazans have no right to travel freely or even move inside gaza freely.and they are surrounded by physical barriers they cant cross, they cant allow visitors in,goods and money cant go inside, unless israel is ok with it, doesnt this sound like an open air prison? 3-2.5 million west bankers, are surrounded by an 8 meter wall,and have zones that they cant cross, nor reach, without going through numerous checkpoints are they all terrorists?. 4-Arabs dont have right to own land ;inside israel, even if they have israeli citizenship..is that true? or am i mistaken again. if all this is true , so how do you define this situation? thank you.
25. Aman, that is false
Jake   (07.21.07)
If what you say is true, then why did most Jews live in Europe and lands under Christian control? The population of Jews in the Moslem world 100 years ago, before Israel, was under 1 million. Second, among the Moslems themselves, it is the Arabs who were the most anti-Jewish. Jews were more tolerated under the Ottoman Turks, Persians, Kurdish Saladin, Andalusian Berbers than under the Arabs themselves. It was the Arabs that eliminated Jews from the Arabian peninsula at the dawn of Islam, remember. And by the way, it was the Moslems who first started massacring Jews in Spain, in 1066. You need to have a good long hard look at yourself instead of succumbing to hypocrisy.
26. Nabil, you are mistaken on every account
Jake   (07.21.07)
Gazans cannot move around freely in Gaza? That's a good one, considering that Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip. Conveniently forgot, I see. Arabs cannot own land in Israel? That's also a good one. Sure, you like to sound as if you know what you are talking about. How about facing up to some facts on your own side. That you Arabs were not as nice to the Jews as you lke to believe. Guess who was the first to start massacring Jews in Spain, long before the Christians. That your peaceful Morocco was fighting against Israel on the Syrian front on the Golan Heights during their vicious attack on Israel on the holiest Jewish day of the year in 1973.
27. coexisted?
Petra ,   redmond,USA   (07.21.07)
briefly, mostly the Muslims displaced the Jews and stole their land and goods. Propaganda is still the lie you bought. Read history my friend. King David untied both Israel and Judah and the Muslims wish to destroy the State of Israel, again... This saga is thousands of years old.
28. Arab Lies
Saar ,   USA   (07.22.07)
Facts are Facts. The small Jewish population in the Arab world before the State of Israel was reestablished in 1948 speaks true about the Arab atrocities against the Jews since the creation of Islam. From the eradication of the Jewish tribes in Arabia to the Arab pograms in the Land of Israel till this day. The Arabs are masters at ethnic cleansing, (and are experts in covering it up). They complain about Western imperialism, they themselves have colonized and eradicated virtually all native inhabitants of the Middle East.
29. To Nabil #24: Answer Jake's Serious Allegation !!!
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (07.21.07)
Jake's talkback #14 is a serious allegation : " Palestinian Grand Mufti Amin al Husseini was one of the architects of the 'final solution' ". WHAT is your answer to that allegation ?? Regarding your #24 : - as long as Kassam rockets ARE fired into Israel, - as long as suicide bombers ARE sent into Israel, - as long as hatred against Jews and Israel ARE preached in the School Text books, on Arab Palestinian TV / Radio / Newspapers, TILL that time I can perfectly understand why the Government of Israel is doing what it is doing. And I think it is also understandable for you -- Government of Israel's behaviour.
30. To Maansingh
Observor ,   India   (07.22.07)
Maansingh .. you should be in Israel not in Netherlands ..Better near Hizbullah Britishers were those who maked Grnd Mufti Amin al Hussieni an important chracther .and this Mufti only rebelled against Turks and joined allies in first world war. and this Mufti only was against the Jewish state and coz of this only 1939 white paper was passed with majority . Which was opposed by Jews . Younger generation Israelis have to see in their history too and see how Israel was established . no revolution comes without blood and blood means violence , Israelis did all that from 1939 till 1967 .. till they got nukes . now its Palestinians turn . No one can be like Indians to acheive freedom by non Violence .
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