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Moroccan king nominated for Righteous Among Nations title
Itamar Eichner
Published: 20.07.07, 15:11
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31. To Nabil
James   (07.22.07)
You seem to have a problem with there being a "Jewish" country. You don't seem to have a problem with there being more than 40 "Muslim" countries. Interesting how you accuse Jews of apartheid for having a country and you let muslims off the hook for having more than 40 countries. Sounds very hypocritical to me. I suppose muslims are allowed to conquer land and keep it guilt free. Remember that muslim countries teach hatred of Christians and Jews, honor killings are common, gays are killed, women and minorities are oppressed. When will this islamic apartheid end? You cannot accuse Israel of racism and apartheid without admitting the same for Islam, because Islam is worse.
32. #24 Nabil. Here's some REAL informat
Zvi   (07.22.07)
1. It is the world's only Jewish state, but 20% of its people are non-Jews. 2. Gaza is not the state of Israel. In any case Israel treats it as it does because of terrorist attacks, not because of its ethnic makeup. The Triangle in Israel is mostly Arab but is treated like any other part of Israel. 3. WB has security restrictions because of terror acts. See comment about the Triangle. 4. Not true. Israeli Arabs own land, farms, businesses, etc. An Israeli Muslim Arab is a cabinet minister. An Israeli sits on the Supreme Court. Another was recently acting PM. Some Israeli Arabs serve in the IDF and some of them rise to high rank, commanding Jews as well as Arabs in critical sectors. Israeli Arabs are businessmen, doctors, lawyers and heads of political parties. Israeli Arabs have been elected Miss Israel and have starred on Israeli national soccer teams. Israeli Arabs are able to go to the same universities as Jews, eat in same restaurants as Jews, use the same restrooms as Jews, see same doctors as Jews. Israeli cities like Haifa have mixed Arab-Jewish neighborhoods. Israeli Arabs have more political and free-speech rights than Arabs have in nearly every other country in the region. And Arabic, along with Hebrew and English, is used on stamps, coins, road signs, the Knesset web site, etc. because unlike other countries in the region, Israel has always recognized its minority languages and allows minorities to use them in an official capacity. In Apartheid South Africa, blacks had NONE of these rights and were arrested if they asked for them.
33. if this is correct, it's only because the king
(07.22.07)
didn't want to lose taxes imposed on Jews
34. for his own benefit not that of the Jews.
(07.22.07)
35. #13 Many Arabs Collaborated with the Nazis
Semsem ,   New York, USA   (07.22.07)
#13 the Arabs did not save the Jews. One Arab helped them; the King of Morocco. However the Mufti of Jerusalem wanted the Nazis to kill them.
36. Nabil #31 Can Jews Own Land in Jordan / Arabia?
Laila ,   Montreal, Canada   (07.22.07)
#31 Nabil. Can the 1 million Jews who had to flee from Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Yemen etc own land in an Arab country? The 1 million Arabs who are Israeli citizens can own land and businneses unlike the 1 million Jews who fled from Arab lands like myself.
37. christians(or catholics-the same)and muslims
Keren ,   SP-Israel   (07.22.07)
create the hate towards Jews and after "save" them. It is cynic,isn't it?
38. King Mohammed V at Yad Vashem
sydney assor ,   london united kingdo   (07.22.07)
Dear A V from London I am very pleased to see another Londoner agreeing to the above. Serge Berdugo and many others have fought for this honour to be bestowed. All the members of the Knesset who have been welcomed on so many occasions by the last Kings and the present one should enhance this action by their effort to have this passed at the earliest Deart A V have you joined the Moroccan Synagogue in Hendon ?
39. If it is True we should Honor him
ralphsrant1 ,   USA   (07.22.07)
If it is True we should Honor him http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com/
40. GOD BLESS ISRAEL
rune ,   norway   (07.23.07)
GOD BLESS ISRAEL AND THE JEWS
41. Laila
Nabil ,   Morroco   (07.23.07)
jews can own land ,properties,and run businesses in morroco. Why did you flee from an arab land? ,and why jews would flee from egypt? was it because of the war between egypt and israel? It happens everytime,Algeria have expelled 40.000 morrocan families during the moroccan sahara conflict .No need to start talking about persecutions or martyrdom.it was war,and conflict. But why did you flee?
42. Does Morocco Recognize The State Of Israel?
(07.23.07)
43. recognizing israel.
Nabil ,   morocco   (07.23.07)
yes it does, not officially though.there never been to my mind an official declaration.But the ties exist,and the consensus in the intellectual milieu,is that israel should be kept inside pre 1967 borders.the situation is very similar to jordany's relationship with israel.governement must deal also with aspirations of the moroccan people,who wants a palestinian state.Morroco was head of the Al Qods committe for peace and Very recently our two foreign ministers met somewhere in europe.
44. Nabil , Morocco
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.23.07)
With Jordan we have diplomatic relations . Also Ambassadors , not so similar as with Morocco you see . Regarding pre 67 borders . Israel was attacked [ blocking strait of tiran = casus belli ] , won this war , and we should make concessions ? Where in world History did such a thing happen ?
45. Schindler was not a saint, either
malka   (07.23.07)
If King Muhammed V saved Jews, then he deserves to be honored. Also the kings of Bulgaria and Denmark.
46. Charles, cmon
Nabil ,   Morocco   (07.24.07)
If it was that simple i would agree with you, but winning the war,then making unilateral separation with gaza,and abandonning west bank to its own fate and building an 8 meter wall around it,blocking gaza,it results in keeping 4 miillion palestinians in a virtual no man's land (not israel ,not a viable state)...there is a big difference here :) it is ok , you say it is because of terrorism.let us suppose that...suppose also the terorist treath will never disappear,for decades, what is your suggestion for the 90% of palestinians starving in this open air prison.? How long can israel take it ,without imploding on its own footprint , in this case the pre 67 borders? only war with its neighbours can give a fresh blood to the "jewish democracy" who knows, some new territory, and we expell the pals to it. or even push them to jordan... c'mon...there are people living in the west bank and gaza.it is either give them a viable state or give them right to israeli citizenship. you dont want to? ok,then get some pop corn and watch what will happen, and beleive me, it wont be the Messiah ,but rather the end of the jewish state.
47. To Zvi
Nabil ,   Morocco   (07.24.07)
i am quoting you : "2. Gaza is not the state of Israel. In any case Israel treats it as it does because of terrorist attacks, not because of its ethnic makeup. " so you mean 1.5 million palestinians in gaza are terrorists? and what about the west bank? 2.4 millions are all terrorists too?. You can serve this argument to others , not to me.
48. NABIL - WTF?
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (07.24.07)
We get is - you hate Jewish soverignty in the heart of the middle east. But don't spread lies, like calling our nation aparteid, when it clearly isn't. Your dumb-ass naive retorical questions are boring.
49. nabil , com'n !!!
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.24.07)
They refused a state in 2000 when Barak offered them 98 % of their claims , and answered it by terror . They first refused the 47 partition plan . Starving in a open air prison ? if you support , directly or indirectly , terrorism , what do you want ? Who voted for Hamas , who's goal is the destruction of Israel ?Do you think that we could not use the money wasted for this wall for more interesting purposes ? What did they build , before or after 48 ? What did they build from 48 till 67 ? Open air prison in Gaza ? do you know that from 48 to 67 , unther Egyptian occupation , they were not allowed to enter Egypt ? Do you know that Palestinians were not allowed to have bussinesses controled 100 % by them in Kuwait , maybe also in other "brother" countries . They were not accepted in any of their "brethren" countries . Israel has integrated more Jews fleeing Arab countries , than the number of palestinians who fled . And those who fled Arab countries had good reasons to do it . They , the palestinians , were mostly leaving , believing that they could come back in the footsteps of the victorious arab armies [ this was told them by their leaders ] who had thrown the Jews in the sea . If they had wanted it , and their supporters also , they could have a good viable state now , alongside with Israel . But no , they never missed a chance to miss one .
50. Andre Azoulay a Moroccan jew is the King advisor
nina ,   Bristol UK   (07.24.07)
Mr Azoulay used to be a minister and an Advisor to the Late King Hassan2 for a decade and now he is the advisor to this son MOhamed 6 . the Jewish Community in casablanca , rabat , Agadir and Marrakesh in morocco is very well off , they have the best Fancy shops and beautiful houses , mansions etc.. they are richer than the Jews of Djerba and tunisia . there are also 200.000 jews living in iran . Mr Maurice Motamed says he often travels to the US and Europe but Iran is home. the iranian jews were offered lots of money last month to move to israel , they were offended , yes Iran is not israel but they like iran and that s home.
51. nina , bristol
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.25.07)
In 1942 Jewish refugees from nazi germany were still saying : bei uns in deutschland . If the Jews of Morocco are so well , why did the majority of them flee ? 200000 Jews iran ? Where do you have this number from ? In the whole of Asia , exept Israel and the former USSR , there are only 19300 Jews [ sergio della Pergola ] So you number , and your facts are wrong .
52. Righteoussness award of Arab
Dona Frederick Fre ,   Robinson US   (07.25.07)
Most definantly, give the Arab his just due's!!! His race shouldn't hinder in any way! If he deserves the award,title, whatever, then give it to him! Why should the matter even need, discussion?Being a king, & or Arab, shouldn't make any difference! He deserves it even more so, because of who he is & risking his life to do so!!GOD bless the dear man!!
53. Respecting Yad Vashem's decision
Farid H. ,   Morocco / Germany   (07.26.07)
I'm very pleased by the nomination of our late King Mohammed V to this great title; but I'm aware of the stringent criteria to be admitted into this very select group. Whatever decision the Yad Vashem committee comes to, it will be based only on irrefutable facts and we must respect their judgment on this matter. I anticipate nothing, but I'd be immensely happy if it came to a positive decision.
54. king Mohammed V righteous
charles Lugassy ,   Montreal Canada   (07.26.07)
This notion that King Mohammed V saved jews was a notion that we heard a lot during our youth and was repeated time and again by leaders of the jewish community in order to show the good relations between arabs and jews at the time. However historically speaking,I was unable to find any sound proof,a decree or a law or any other document attesting of this besides the fact that it was a hearsay. So please consult with historians(there is one in Washington) and others before awarding such a noble title to anyone. It will be an excellent publicity stunt for the advancement of the cause of peace however Yad Vashem is not looking for publicity but for truth. chalom Ve Chabat Chalom
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