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The first atheist rabbi
Guy Oren
Published: 28.07.07, 16:54
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1. Before I make fun of this though not of a fellow Jew's death
sk ,   USA   (07.28.07)
could Guy Oren please give some SPECIFICS of what this "atheist rabbi" did believe in? This fairly long "eulogy" offers nothing but vagueness.
2. "The first atheist rabbi"
j.c. ,   u.k.   (07.28.07)
This headline is an insult .zichrono-lebracha.
3. #1 s.k re:info
josephine ,   london uk   (07.28.07)
just look up "rabbi wine" on the internet where you can read about his beliefs,listen to interviews with him & etc. about "Society for Humanistic Judaism" ..good hunting.
4. An athesist Rabbi. Best definition of oxymoron yet!
We made fun of him ,   in detroit too!!!!   (07.28.07)
5. atheist rabbi = oxymoron
Phantom 85   (07.28.07)
The Book of Jeremiah says it all.
6. Atheist Rabbi
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (07.28.07)
Before jumping to conclusions, read what he was all about. He sure blows the lid off blaming god or expecting god to do what humans should do. http://www.shj.org/CorePrinciples.htm
7. 1st atheist rabbi = 1st kosher pig-store in Netanya
Dovy   (07.28.07)
8. WHO WIll Bless His Memory, Guy?
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (07.28.07)
Certainly not the G-d that he didn't believe in.
9. athiest rabbi. Too much wine.
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.28.07)
10. Now he can laugh his way to hell
john ,   nz   (07.29.07)
11. Most people in churches and probably temples are atheists...
Rivkah   (07.29.07)
Vernon McGee whose Bible Radio program covers teh Bible in five years of half hour talks, says he had a church in Texas where he was the only person who believed in God. Everyone else was there for a social club. I have been treated very badly by atheists and by people who go to churches, so it is difficult to tell the difference. Maybe temples are the same way: I hope not.
12. To Hartley #6. Atheists Exists.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (07.29.07)
You write :"... blaming God or expecting God to do ...". IT is the atheist who blame God for his difficulties/problems in life. While people expecting God to do something for them ARE considered to be religious -- albeit religious of a lower standing. BTW a Rabbi who leads Jewish rituals -- rituals are directed toward Yahweh, the Supreme Lord -- can NOT possibly be an atheist. An atheist can NOT be a Rabbi. And a Rabbi can NOT be an atheist. Meaning : an atheist Rabbi does NOT exist. I agree that atheists exists. BUT he should NOT call himself a Rabbi.
13. atheist rabbis already exist
david ,   new york usa   (07.29.07)
reform and reconstructionist rabbis don't believe in god. what's novel about this guy?
14. Rabbi Wine
Donald Rohr ,   Detriot   (07.29.07)
We here in Detroit will fondly miss Rabbi Wine. As Detroits first openly gay rabbi, he had the courage and vision to embrace all segments of judaism, uniting them all in one purpose for all mankind.
15. evidence conservatism is a failure
david ,   new york usa   (07.29.07)
his parents were conservative and "kept kosher and shabbat". he went to become a reform rabbi. he then progressed further, dropped god altogether and hooked up with a "life partner". conservative judaism kills the jewish soul. they may hang on for a while and follow shabbat or kosher but since they don't really believe in it, their kids see right through it. in the end their children will all end up atheist homosexuals like this guy.
16. Rabbi Wine
Karen Lebowitz ,   usa   (07.29.07)
Yes, The rabbis courage to challenge god and to be openly gay is what is needed today in Israel.
17. The first Atheist Rabbi
staub ,   new yotk, usa   (07.29.07)
how will Rabbi Wine, to quote you, watch from the outside on his lifetime work? I am sure that he id not believe in the hereafter.
18. SO SMART THAT HE BECAME UTTERLY STUPID
..............DACON9   (07.29.07)
19. He's not an atheist any more.
kiki stomkop   (07.29.07)
20. Our Friends
Joshua ,   Herzeliya,Israel   (07.29.07)
"Blessed be his memory" The gay and lesbian community of Israel saluts him!
21. Ridiculous! Some gay atheist, proclaiming himself a "Rabbi".
Tevye ,   Chelm   (07.29.07)
Might as well proclaim himself as "Shaman". Believe me, a Rabbi is someone who believes at least in G'd, and usually has a female partner - with kids. Everything else is humburg! Im not against atheists, not against gays ( as long as they don't start wandering around obscenely at streets , claiming "equality"), but these two DEFINITELY do NOT got together with Judaism, and CERTAINLY not with being a so-called self-proclaimed Rabbi. What a hoax!
22. Atheist RABBI???
Marian ,   Israel   (07.29.07)
Please, what kind of nonsense is this? Call him a humanist who cared about his personal way of looking at Judaism, or whatever you want, but Rabbi? Please people, get real - a Rabbi by definition cannot be an Atheist - this is plain stupid. And I am not a religous Jew! But this goes too far.
23. now he has gone to judgement
m   (07.29.07)
' Its reserved for men to die once and after this a judgement' So as yahweh told Moses " choose this day; life or death.' This period of time is just a probationary, compulsary labor.So my prayer is 'one' with David " teach me o' God how to count the days in such a way as to bring in a heart of wisdom.' So thats what we take with us .
24. the problem with athiesm and humanism is
Andie ,   Perth, Australia   (07.29.07)
we are all mortal, and nothing we say or do can change that fact. Our soul is a gift from G-d. If we choose to deny or reject that, it does not alter the fact that our soul ultimately returns to G-d. Sherwin Wine will attempt to convince the beit din shamiem his contribution to the world can be reconciled with the mission he was charged with. His cheshbon hanefesh will be a hefty account.
25.  1Dovy = 1000 illiterates
charles ,   petach tikva   (07.29.07)
There are 70 stores in Nethanya selling pork . You can't read i think PS this stuff is not on my shopping list since i made Alyah
26. There is NO such thing as an atheist rabbi!!!
(07.29.07)
Slow day in the news room y-net???
27. THE RABBI----
al mann ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.29.07)
He reminds me of the person who said "I'm an atheist-thank God".
28. Atheist Rabbi
Velvel Rice ,   Modiin   (07.29.07)
I am a Detroiter and have followed Wine's career for some decades. He turned Judaism, the fount of monotheism into a pagan philosophy of liberalism and decadence. His personal life, that of an avowed homosexual, complete with Gentile 'partner' was a desecration of all Judaism stands for. In Detroit, across the vast Jewish spectrum, Wine was an embarrassment. He met his end in an interesting way; killed in a cab in an Moslem country, on the Holy Sabbath while vacationing during the Three Weeks before Tisha B'Av. Divine Justice?
29. 1st athesist-GAY rabbi???
Phantom 85   (07.29.07)
Only on GAYnet would we read of such a thing.
30. Yeshua said RELIGIOUS unbelievers are children of the devil.
Rivkah   (07.29.07)
It is better not to be religious than to be a religious unbeliever who has a worse condemnation after death than a mere unbeliever. I have to wonder if that could mean ONLY religious unbelievers are children of the devil and that mere unbelievers who are not religious are NOT children of the devil. If non-religious unbelievers are NOT children of the devil, what are they? Are they equivalent to children of Hashem? Is atheism a religion, a sort of worship of people designated by the government or oneself to deify? I have to wonder what Yeshua meant. But it is clear he did not approve of religion for the wrong reasons.
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