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Soldier left behind in Gaza
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 29.07.07, 12:23
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1. Jesus Christ that is crazy!!
Josh ,   Herzliya   (07.29.07)
2. soldier
colin   (07.29.07)
BULLSHIT Another attempted scoop by the writer.Firstly if the writer is a coward do not write that the soldier was scared.How does this Scared look to the Hamas??He fell asleep?? Again bullshit !! On patrol -how can a soldier sleep while walking??Ynet better find a replacement for this so called writer-Hanan Greenberg.Even his name shows that he is still green behind the ears.Shame on Ynet !! Where is the editer??????Why does the Idf not close this paper for telling the enemy that Isreali soldiers are scared.???
3. Phew!!!!!
Alan ,   SA   (07.29.07)
4. Commanders would get nothing
Noam   (07.29.07)
In Israel, military COs are above the law worse case scenario, their promotion is delayed until the storm calms..
5. Isreali Soldier
Robin ,   Northern Ireland   (07.29.07)
A lucky escape for this soldier. The murderous fanatics in Gaza would have loved to get a hold of him. His fellow soldiers should be ashamed to have left him behind.
6. Intolerable Behaviour!!!
Chaya ,   Bat Yam, Israel   (07.29.07)
And improper role taking!! This was not a day out for school kids!! Thank G-d the soldier was gotten out of there!!
7. This is EXACTLY why nobody wants to join the IDF!!!
(07.29.07)
8. When did a soldier ever fall asleep on an operation?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.29.07)
No one would ever answer for someone else.If someone did not answer his comrades would have said something is wrong. Signalling with a light stick? Like it could not be seen a hundred meters away.
9. no. 1 and 2
(07.29.07)
no. 1 - what is "jesus christ"??? no. 2 - where do you think you live : in Iran?!?
10. Soldier left behind
Rod ,   Fargo N.Dakota   (07.29.07)
Israel worrys about moslems being armed by the U.S. ,i think they should worry more about discipline and training.The Chief of staff was bragging about the improvements in the IDF since he took over maybe he should visit his Brigade commandres and see these so called improvements.
11. more evidence of Israel in decline
Marcel ,   Florida   (07.29.07)
Israel has closely and religiously followed the example of her master ,America. She has taken on the image of her god in every way. And this is why Israel is in such serious decay. Return to your God ,O Israel !
12. Israel is lossing his values
Patrick ,   Miami USA   (07.29.07)
I have always thought that the perfect illustration of maybe the most difficult mitzva "Haavat Israel" was given by the Israeli soldiers. We had the recounts of real stories that took place on the battle field that even the most creative movie producer in Hollywood would note have dared to implement. When I was a civilian volunter in Tsahal in 1982, I remember to have read the story of Marcus Hoestchein, an US-Born israeli soldier that had been wounded in a roadside bombing in South Lebanon along with his Commander. Despite his wounds, he asked the medics to first take care of his officer.He then lost conscience, was taken to the hospital and unfortunately passed away. Also Omer Akabets was the radio guy of Golani general Erez Gerstein that dyed in a roadside bombing in South Lebanon. Omer had been picked up by Gerstein because he had heard of a seriously wounded soldier that was more than eager to return to combat. TImes are changing but not so much, the are still plenty of wonderful fighters willing to sacrifice their life. I recently talked to an Israeli in Miami that told me that he only did one year in Tsahal in a ship warehouse and dropped it. I told him that at the time of the Warsaw ghetto, when 5 years old jewish kids were eaten alive by German shepherd dogs, anyone in the Ghetto would have been more than happy to serve as a "jobnick". I saw he was deeply hit and not very proud of himself, almost apologizing. Israel has to get rid of its corrupted political leadership and more think about Thorah and mistvots. Because Israel is not a country like any other and we have good neighbours that will not miss any opportunity to remind it to us. One thing more, I do not think to be naive or superstitious, for example I consider more religious a guy that does not respect Yom Kippour but "flies straight" in his daily life than a so called religious guy that sleeps with prostitutes. Israel needs men like Yoni Netanayu, Rafoul, Reham Zeevi, etc, and not people sending soldiers to death in order to secure that political agendas. Kol Hakavod Le Tsahal!
13. Marcel#11,a question for you:
Keren ,   SP-Israel   (07.29.07)
What if G'od decides not to send any Messias anymore,nevermore-nor the great human leader for Jews;nor the son of god of crhistians;nor the(I don't remember the name)of the muslims. What if G'od decides to let in the simple humans' hands the task of fixing this world. What will you do ? Who will you follow? Will you get lost? Second question:What if G'od decides to send Messiah,but he is not yoshua AT ALL,but Moishe,Yossi,Dror,David or whoever,but not yoshua for sure. What you will do? Who you will follow? Will you get lost? Third question: A person from Norway,sent the other day a seeminly very well based prove that christianity as well as muslimism are frauds. What do you think about that? Plese read all talkbacks from"Norway" http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3428720,00.html
14. #9 #1 is a Jew, but #2 is certainly a Jew
(07.29.07)
Both use nonsense (in their openion) to express exclamation. #2 is certainly a Jew, he does not know Hebrew, and more does not know the Bible. Hanan is a biblical name for a girl or a boy. Hanan means grace in Hebrew and compassion in Arabic, that's why he is certainly a Jew !
15. It's the soldier's fault
RA   (07.29.07)
Falling asleep on a mission? What the hell! He doesn't deserve to be in Golani.
16. no. 2 - the apprentice
E.S. ,   Montreal, Canada   (07.29.07)
What are you talking about? Golani mission are not a 2 or 3 hours walk. Sometimes, they have to hide for hours, waiting for order (i.e., shabak, or military intelligence). I guess that is probably in a period of waiting the soldier fell asleep. Still possible to me, even in a prestigious unit like the golani. Good luck "achim" overthere.
17. To no.2 and no.8 - use of a lightstick
E.S. ,   Montreal, Canada   (07.29.07)
How would you "fat ass lazy ashkenazy" would have signal your presence during nightime? With snapfingers?? Screaming your name? YEAH RIGHT. The soldier was entitled to use a lightstick, and this probably saved his life.
18. #11 I'm a christian, but I am totally embaressed by you.
sari ,   usa   (07.29.07)
For so long you have had nothing but hate filled words for Israel. No wonder they hate christians. You represent all that christianity is not & should not be. Yes Israel has made mistakes, yes the United States has made mistakes, but so have I & so have you. Do you honestly think that you can turn a nation around to get their eyes back on God by the hate and anger that flows out of you? If you were trying to win me to the Lord and used that approach I'd probably tell you to go to H--l and leave me alone. Proverbs tells us that a soft answer turns away wrath. Look, if you hate America so much and hate Israel so much you have greatly turned away from the Word of God. So either get this right before the Lord, of leave America, go live somewhere else, and NEVER bother Israel again. We have the devil in the world, what do we need you for?
19. to #2 Colin Colin, calm down, shit happens,
(07.29.07)
from your talkback I have a strong feeling that you don't live in Israel....we are used to live under a tremendous amount of stress, but you over react....soldier is fine, there will be an investigation....next....we move on....you should to....
20. Keren nobody listens to you anymore, play with your barbies
(07.29.07)
21. #13 Keren
Marcel ,   Florida   (07.29.07)
""What if G'od decides not to send any Messias anymore,nevermore-""" THERE ARE NO 'IF'S' with Israel's God ! HE IS AS SURE AS HIS WORD . I would encourage yo to follow the suggestion of ex-Tzahal TB # 12 and read Torah and believe God is not a man that He should lie or change His mind. Don't believe the puffed up liars who trust in themselves and in man's own efforts. They never accomplish anything as we can see with all the leaders of Israel including slick politician Netanyahu. Yeremiah 17:5 is Go'd message to these FOOLS. Messiah is returning and you can be sure of this. He will not leave His plan in the hands of failed and corrupt men.
22. Golani..first they desert, then they get lost. hahaha
(07.29.07)
23. #11, AMEN.
Khalil ,   Palestine   (07.29.07)
http://prc.org.uk/
24. #20 andre,you don't put your name for fear
Keren ,   SP-Israel   (07.29.07)
to be deported to Brasil, for having cheated the state of Israel,lying you were a Jew? Yes because,since the issue christianity touches you so much,something wrong must be with your imigration. But don't worry,sooner or later we get on you!
25. #2 colin
colin ,   derbyshire uk   (07.29.07)
please write a location where you are from,even a fictitious one will do.I don't want readers to confuse you with me.ta.
26. Marcel ,I made you 3 questions,you didn't answer none.
Keren ,   SP-Israel   (07.29.07)
And what G'od says to us Jews is not the same that your (falsificated) scriptures tell to you. But anyway I am giving you a chance to counter argument, with the mind that G'od gave to us all ,to think and reflect. But Marcel,please,answer my 3 questions separatedly,if you can. A mental exercise over hypotesis is not something bad,but good.It doesn't hurt nor offend nobody.
27. Colin please don't kill the messenger...
Maurice ,   Montreal   (07.29.07)
Hanan Greenberg is just reporting the facts. Just chek out the Jerusalem Post web site. The news are identical. They also state that the soldier was scared. You may not like what went on here, but that is no reason to blame the reporter.
28. #2 And what is the problem in being scared?
Keren ,   SP-Israel   (07.29.07)
As long as I know,soldiers are human beings,and any human being would feel scared in such a situation. What is the problem? You certainly don't live here and don't know Israelis at all. Here no man or woman are scared ,unless in a exceptional situation like that,what I repeat ,is normal for anyone.
29. #18 - Sari
Debbie ,   Seattle   (07.29.07)
I'll take issue with one statement you made: that the US and Israel have made mistakes, like all of us do.... Sari, Israel is making nothing but big mistakes. They are so serious that they are jeopardizing its very existence. The decisions the government makes and that we read about every day seem to be completely contrary to Israel's interest. How can anyone who cares for Israel support the expulsions of Jews, the conduct of the Lebanon 2 war, and the recent cut on the defense budget, to name only three. And we must not blind ourselves to the American government secret (or not so secret) agenda to sell out Israel. I'm not a Christian, but I like Marcel's determined stance to unmask the enemies of Israel. He's not trying to convert us. If you read Marcel's TB carefully, he's not advocating for Israeli Jews to become Christians. He's telling them to turn away from their masters, the deceitful American government with its goal of destroying Israel.
30. Keren 26 sari #18
Marcel ,   Florida   (07.29.07)
Keren I answered your question. There is no if ! It's quite simple ,when you believe Gods' word ,its easy to spot the decievers and liars. As for norway, Why should I listen to a lie when I have no doubt 's of the truth ????? You sound unsure ? I am sure ! Let God be true and every man a liar. I do not trust men ,mankind ,especially religious ones and most especially devil,allah followers and the president who calls Islam a religion of peace. How can you trust liars like that ? I've seen from the beginning that Bush was a fraud and a liar and attempted to warn the blind deaf and dumb of Israel that he was extremely dangerous tpo Israel. Why does Israel fall so easliy for liars and decievers ? Sari, like many confused christian's makes excuses for her blindness as do all those who trusted in their fasle messiah'christian' George Bush. Watch what they do ,they never have an argument against what I write because they know it is true. So all they have is only to accuse me of 'hate' Israel is in the mess it is in because they trusted in lies and liars and not the Holy One of Israel.and this is why the confused 'sari's' accuse me of hate.
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