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Olmert: Immediate goal is Palestinian state
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 07.08.07, 01:04
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31. to #18 monika
freejay ,   Israel   (08.07.07)
The solution is simple and the only one. Follow Sharons plan and turn Gazza into a buffer zone, push the fake Palastinians back from where they came from........EGYPT AND JORDAN. Jordan was the land the british mandate gave them.........not Israel! Reclaim our holy biblical sites such as Hebron etc. By the way monika, these people are not really Palastinians........most are only 1st, and 2nd generation. Only 20% were living there before Arafat told them all to come over from egypt and jordan to steal our jewish land.
32. One way deal!
Lemmings Hotline ,   sd usa   (08.07.07)
33. Representatives?
mark ,   raanana   (08.07.07)
Who do these two buffoons represent?
34. 2 States: one Jewish-Arab State Israel, one Arab-Only state
Jew ,   Jerusalem   (08.07.07)
Palestine will be no go area for Jews, and the rights for israeli Arabs will be extended. hypocrites and liers!!
35. i'm not sure Olmert has Israel's best interests in mind
Aaron ,   ra'anana   (08.07.07)
and that's putting it lightly
36. Is Olmert the Israeli Prime Minister or the Palestinian?
Michael   (08.07.07)
37. one state for all
Rimon ,   Palestine   (08.07.07)
it seems so far and with no doubt that the 2 state solution is no longer applicable and I do dare and challange anyone who says counterwise, well we can both and all Jews and Palestinians live under one state with all equal rights and it doesn't matter what the name is, all what matters is equal human rights for both Arabs and Jews and can be a model for the whole world, this way u can guarantee equal rights , lawmakers, one united capital called Jerusalem the united capital and this way u also provide freedom of religion, and freedom of political affiliation based on one united state solution. think about it
38. #20 Just because you see it doesn't
Michael ,   Israel   (08.07.07)
mean it can be stopped. Especially, when the U.S. state department is pulling the strings.
39. JEWISH STATE
ROLAND SEENER ,   RSEENER   (08.07.07)
LET'S SWAP AROUND OLMERT FOR ABBAS.THAT WAY WE CAN SPEED UP RECOGNITION OF A JEWISH STATE WITH THE WORLD RECOGNISING JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL WITHIN CLEARLY DEFINED BORDERS
40. Enemies of Israel
Brod ,   USA   (08.07.07)
Antisemites and Islamist-Jihadists are glaring enemies of Israel. However, latent enemies of Israel are equally pernicious. GODless internal elements who have no loyality to the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and external corrupt elements whose balls are being squeeszed by the Saudis to do their evil work on Israel are the latent enemies of Israel. Two thousand five hundred years ago, Prophet Ezekeil prophesied that GOD would bring back the Jews in diaspora to their Biblical and Historic Homeland of Israel. This event took place in the 20th century. Israel is a REALITY. Jews from all over the world sought refuge in Israel from the persecutions of antisemites and Islamist-Jihadists. Would humans dare to tamper with GOD's design for modern Israel? Wise humanity will do well not playing god on GOD's Land for the Jews. Israel should be vigilant in protecting its homeland from its enemies and not allow itself to compromise its security. Meanwhile, the fanatical Ayatollahs, that are hellbent on the destruction of Israel, are feverishily working on their nukes so that they can carry out their evil intention in vaporizing Israel. Israelis should be united to protect themselves from the ravenous wolves as well as from those latent enemies. Both enemies have the same goal--the destruction of Israel.
41. Israel Can do Something!
Dave ,   USA   (08.07.07)
Israel can turn to God who has always been there and look to him for deliverance and not look to worldly leaders who have worldly motives. You have all wandered the desert much too long now. Look up to God almighty and ask for forgiveness. You want peace then put Christ in your hearts. Amen
42. #20
Dave ,   USA   (08.07.07)
Amen. Stop the blind leading the blind routine and open your hearts to God. You have the greatest weapon ever but you never use it - God's almighty power and his only begotten Son Jesus Christ - the redeemer for all mankind. You have all wandered the desert far too long. You are in the promised land already so give glory to God in the highest. Fight with the sword of salvation, serve God and thank Him.
43. Olmert is hated at home so he wants to be loved abroad
zionist forever   (08.07.07)
Olmertis hated at home and he knows it so now he is willing to risk the countries security and politcal interests of being loved abroad. the man is desperate for a nobel prize before he is kicked out at the next ellection. Olmert wants to get into bed with every arab leader whatever the cost to Israel. Abbas .. while Israeli troops are short on supplies he provides amunation, guns and bullet proof vests ( things reserves were having to buy themsleves in Lebanon because of lack of recources ) so he arms arabs at the sake of lives of Israeli soilders all in the name of STENGHENING Abbas against Hamas because he is a so called moderate. He lelts hundreds of prisoners out all they need to do is say I promise I wont carry out another terror attack its just a matter of time before one of them breaks their promise. He openly admits he wants to divide Jerusalem and taalks about negotiating a refugee settlement he doesnt talk about no way nothing to discuss the way arabs will say if they have a political red line. The army needs money, he has just spent over $1 billion on a war which achived nothing because he went into it with no clear aims and came out of it achiving nothing. Allthough the army is still trying to recover from the cost of the war he is cutting their budget. At a time when Assad has been isolkated internationaly and Israel is in a stronger politcal system to dictate terms than ever since 1967 Olmert is trying to bail him out, he wants to play by Assads rules and give the Golan for ... PEACE IN OUR TIME Assad at the same time openly admits with pride he supports hizbullah and says they are a legitimate resistance movement. He is in bed with Ahmadinijad they have even signed mutul defense pacts and Assad wont give that up to make peace with Israel. One minute Assad plays Ghandi next minute he is threatening to take the Golan by force but Olmert wants to do as Assad tells him and what Israelis want is secondry less important matter. The day after the Lebanon war formerly ended Peretz said that now was the perfect time to negotiate with Syria Olmert signs ceacefire agreemeents over an end to the Gaza rocket attacks but just hours after the ceacefire is declared the attacks start and its only months of preasure on him from Israelis that he agreed to let the IDF fire on terrorists setting up rockets before then the soilders could sit and watch terrorists in full view setting up and firing rockets and they were not allowed to shoot unless their own lives were directly in danger. The shelters in Sderot and the other border towns still havnt been made fit for use after Lebanon thats the thing he talked about being priority but its only now he has even given money to strenghen hospitals and there will be no money found for the civilian shelters whilke at the same time Olmert is building himself a neuclear bunker at a cost of $1 billion .. if he can afford to pay for that then why cant he find an extra couple of million to make everybody outside his bunker safe Hamas please we will give you anything just save us from Olmert and his crooked regime
44. #41 & #42 Dave - It's time you and your ilk faced the truth.
Levi ,   USA   (08.07.07)
Jesus was not the Messiah and although you've tried to convince us for the past 2000 years that he is, it still doesn't change the fact that he isn't the Messiah. Maybe if you took the time to research Jewish law a little better, you would come to the realization that human sacrifice is OUTLAWED by the Torah and in no way can be considered an atonement for sin. You would also discover that mankind does not need to be "redeemed" by the blood of a demigod to ensure a place in the world to come- according to Jewish law, all it needs to do is accept the 7 Noahide laws. You talk about the blind leading the blind, yet you refuse to remove the beam from your eye while mocking others about what you perceive to be the mote in theirs. Why don't you (and every other christianizer on this site, for that matter) practice what your "savior" preaches for once?
45. #42 Dave..USA
Nemesis   (08.07.07)
Everytime I read a post like yours,really religious type post,I shake my head and think..how can people really believe that nonsense. Then I think that it's your belief,so go for it .if that's what gives you comfort. Me ,I'm not even close to being religious..actually I think that the major cause of strife and violence in the world today is caused by religious differences..and the media doesn't help much either by blowing everything out of proportion.
46. Levi #44 Know the Truth
Brod ,   USA   (08.08.07)
You don't know what you are talking about when it comes to Jesus. I challenge you to know the Truth by reading your Holy Bible from Genesis to Revelation written by INSPIRED Holy Jewish Prophets. "All Scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." 2Timothy 3:16.
47. Olmert's Immediate goal is Palestinian state, but
Truth 1 ,   USA   (08.08.07)
his immediate goal SHOULD BE A SECURE HOMELAND FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE!!! And furthermore, he should be VERY concerned about pleasing the God of Israel instead of GWB. Psa 118:6 The LORD [is] on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me? Psa 118:8 [It is] better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
48. You mark my words, if Olmert succeeds in this, like Rabin, &
rocky ,   rocky mountain high   (08.08.07)
Sharon before him, tragedy will come upon him like a thief in the night. And if the nation(the peoples) of Israel do nothing to stop this, judgement will come upon them as well. Just sit back and watch this happen
49. #44 Jesus rebuked the rabbis of his time for not knowing who
art ,   AU   (08.08.07)
he was or that he was even coming. And he wasn't nice about it either. Evidently the rabbis of that time didn't research the Tanach like they were supposed to hey? In fact the forming of your nation in 1948 to the day was foretold in the same scriptures that you reject that tell of the coming of Jesus. This isn't a rebuke, just plain facts. You could learn from us, or you can just stay mad at us. The choice is yours. Jesus was the last lamb led to the slaughter. Read your Tanach it's all in there.
50. #46 Brod - Why don't you read YOUR Bible??
Levi ,   USA   (08.08.07)
Turning exactly to Matthew 24:2: "And Jesus said to them, 'See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.'" While the destruction of Jerusalem and the sacking of the Temple is foretold here, pay close attention to his words, "There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down." The very fact that the Western Wall (as well as other structures in Jerusalem that existed during 0-40 )still exists testifies that Jesus was nothing more than a false prophet, because his words were not fulfilled! As to the writers of the "New Testament", the minute they abandoned haShem and began worshipping Jesus as haShem is the minute they divorced themselves from the Jewish faith and ceased to be Jews according to Jewish law- the same Jewish law Jesus lived by and died by because he transgressed against it by violating the Sabbath (he then sadly tried to justify his violation by use of a false analogy with King David and his troops). Speaking of Jesus and the Law... didn't he say something about coming to fulfill it, not to abolish it? (Matthew 5:17-20) Also, did he not say something about transgressing the Law and teaching others to transgress it? Well, it looks like the turncoat Paul is the least in the kingdom of heaven after all... Good thing I converted to Judaism from Evangelical Christianity while I still had my sanity about me...
51. Levi #50
Brod ,   USA   (08.08.07)
When Jesus made the prediction about Jerusalem in Matthew 24:2, in AD70 it was fulfilled when the Romans led by General Titus ravaged the city. A Wall standing alone is not a building. It is good that a Wall was left standing which validates to the world and to the Islamist-Jihadists that Israel including Judea and Samaria belong to the Jews since ancient. time. How can you say Jesus broke the Law? In fact, He strengthens the Law by expanding it. Read Matthew Chapters 5, 6 and 7. And He gave the greatest Commandments--to love GOD with all our heart, mind and soul and to love our neighbor as ourselves. Loving GOD with all our heart, mind and soul is embodied in the first FOUR Commandments of the Ten Commandments. Loving our neighbor as ourselves is embodied in the last Six Commandments of the Ten Commandments. A whole book can be written about the subject that you raised
52. #51 - Brod, your logic is falling flat here...
Levi ,   USA   (08.08.07)
True, a wall standing alone is not a building, but a wall is a collection of stones built on top of each other. Had Jesus' prediction actually come true, every wall would have been shattered, not just every building... Again, my stand is correct, Jesus is a false prophet because he predicted something that did not come true. As for Jesus "expanding" the Law, the commandment to love haShem comes from Moses (Deut. 6:4-8), and Jesus' rehashing of the same commandment can hardly count for "expanding" the Law. The same counts for loving one's neighbor as oneself (Lev. 19:18). As regards them being the most important commandments, this he learned from Rabbi Hillel, who most likely lived and taught until Jesus was 10 years old. What Jesus preached wasn't very revolutionary... and also considering the fact that he spoke Aramaic and the primary documents of the New Testament are in Greek (the Aramaic versions used by the Syriac church are translations from the Greek), WE HAVE NO RECORD OF WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY SAID! Brod (as well as anybody else who's been following our little chat), please stop ignoring the facts about Jesus and join the Jewish people in their hope for the coming of the true Messiah. The Jewish faith is unique in it's approach- you don't have to be Jewish to have a share in the world to come, all you have to do is observe the 7 Laws of Noah. Explore the issue... increase your knowledge of the Bible... become a righteous gentile, like Abraham our father and Noah his father... That's all I have to say about that!
53. Levi #52
Brod ,   USA   (08.09.07)
Let us not argue about stones. This is semantics. Some people tend to be too literalistic that they would count how much stones were turned into rubble and sand. What is important is that our heart, mind and soul will not be too stony to gain salvation by KNOWING GOD the Father the only true GOD and Jesus Christ whom He had sent. John !7:3. My earlier post to you would have answered all your questions had the censors not cut the essential part of my posting. Since you claim to know Hashem, you would, by reading the entire Holy Bible from Genesis to Revelation, also know Jesus. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and the Word was GOD. He was in the beginning with GOD. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it." John 1: 1-5.
54. #52 If you deny me before men, I'll deny u before my father.
Yashua ,   Heavely Yirushaliam   (08.09.07)
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