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Bat-Hen Epstein Elias
Published: 14.08.07, 16:12
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1. Wonderful organization - NOT
Mary ,   Canada   (08.14.07)
Delve deeper before accepting Scientology. Scientology teaches that the concept of G-d is imprinted on humans but is definitely not real. You cannot be a believing Jew and a Scientologist. It's a very dangerous message wrapped in sweetness. The bottom line is they want your money. The higher you rise within the organization, the greater the control they have over you. They even use pseudo religious symbols to appear innocuous. Check out www.xenu.net (especially the Xenu pamphlet).
2. Scientology / Summer Camp
James Lightfield ,   Philadelphia, PA USA   (08.14.07)
I'm glad you included the website (www.TWTH.org) in your article. At least people can actually look beyond your hate and bigotry to read a non-religious, non-political guide that HAS the support of political leaders, religious leaders, social leaders, educators and corporations. More than 65 million copies of The Way to Happpiness have been distributed and have been acknowledged as helpful in reducing crime and increasing dialogue amongst different groups. A Jew attacking a non-religious guide is unfortunate as a key element of The Way to Happiness is respect for those of other religious beliefs. That message alone is of vital importance to promote -- or are you blind to the horrors that have been inflicted on Jews? The tools Hubbard developed are for use by anyone in better understanding and resolving problems. Anyone can learn the scope of these by going to www.ABLE.org. Anyone can study these workable tools by visiting: www.ScientologyHandbook.org
3. #2 You're outnumbered by the sane
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4. Parents, beware of this dangerous cult
anonymous ,   US   (08.14.07)
I'm writing anonymously for a good reason. I once met an attorney who represented former members of this "church." Scientologists put a rattlesnake in his mailbox. Read about it on the Internet. I saw the snake bites with my own eyes. This is a cult that Israel should be very concerned about. Parents, if your children are in a Scientology program. GET THEM OUT NOW!
5. the basic flaw in the Scientology teachings is that people
Rivkah   (08.14.07)
are basically good. The bible says no one is good but God. Scientology has an interesting array of levels of awareness a person progresses through toward what they call Theta-Clear, the top Scientology consciousness and level of goodness. What disturbs me is that people like Charles Manson at the maximun security ward at California's Corcoran Prison is a THETA-CLEAR. Yes folks, the same Charles Manson involved in the Tate-LaBianca killings who himself brainwashed his followers to kill. What a summer camp to send one's children to. Myself, I think I would pass.
6. Scientology is so creepy
David ,   Nyack, NY, USA   (08.14.07)
Israel is its own nation, but Israel is also a symbol for many people. Scientology has no place in Israel.
7. #4 Anonymous: the Roman Catholics top that...
Rivkah   (08.14.07)
they hand out poisoned wafers to try to kill people they think are Jews or who criticize them. Then they have their pals file false police reports and lie in court to destroy people who oppose them. Been there. Seen that. My bank account in heaven has rescued me from the wolves many times, so I stay away from religious organizations now. Reading the Bible at home is safer.
8. scientology and cults
larry ,   chicago   (08.14.07)
Scientology has long been known as a cult with definite missionary activities. unfortunately I had two terrible encounters with them. In one, a friend who began to learn their propaganda ended up leaving his family to join them and ended up messed up. In an other tragic experience, my brother in law got screwed up from them, but fortunately, he was able to get out and far away from them. They should be outlawed in ALL countries!!!! not just Israel.
9. Morons running the camps??
Donna s ,   Netanya Israel   (08.14.07)
Firstly, why are young children subjected to this at a SUMMER camp. I sent my son to camp to be a KID and to play. Are the camp owners on another planet? They need my permission before subjecting my kids to this dung. Secondly, doing "missionary" activities without stating your real background is sneaky and in Israel probably illegal (remember the deal with the Mormons and their building?) Scientology thrives on the subliminal mesage. BTW, believers of little green men, if Tom Cruise is one of your great enlightened ones, I'd rather be a Hari Krishna, Hare Hare. You won't find too many suckers in Israel, we're fed up with being told being Jewish "ain't good enough."
10. Irresponsible article
Ariella ,   Los Angeles   (08.14.07)
I am Jewish and a Scientologist. This article was written by a very lazy journalist to whom facts are not as important as great-sounding lies, so why take the trouble to find out the facts? We Jews still remember the centuries of torture and suffering we endured from people who swore that they saw, with their own eyes, Jews murder Christian children to use their blood to bake our mazot. You'd think that we, especially we, would first check the facts before disseminating the same hate and lies. For the truth read a book by L. Ron Hubbard, or take a look at: www.scientology.org As for the Way To Happiness, I have no clue why Bat-Hen got stuck on sex, drugs and alcohol. The Way To Happiness is a common-sense guide to better living. It contains 21 precepts: (1) Take Care of Yourself (2) Be Temperate (3) Don't be promiscuous (4) Love and help children (5) Honor and help your parents (6) Set a good example (7) Seek to live with the truth (8) Do not murder (9) Don't do anything illegal (10) Support a government designed and run for all the people (11) Do not harm a person of good will (12) Safeguard and improve your environment (13) Do no steal (14) Be worthy of trust (15) Fulfill your obligations (16) Be industrious (17) Be competent (18) Respect the religious beliefs of others (19) Try not to do things to others that you would not like to do to you (20) Try to treat others as you would want them to treat you (21) Flourish and prosper. That's it. Do you need to be "brainwashed" - whatever that means - to understand the value of this common-sense guide?
11. The Clear and the Penniless
Robert Gardner ,   Vermont, USA   (08.14.07)
L. Ron Hubbard (drug abuser, cult member, huckster) has duped these poor people into buying into his brand and now they have taken it to Israel. Israel must purge itself of these people as a means to become "clear." As for James and Ariella, keep spending your money, you'll get that carrot someday. Do Teshuvah or you'll see exactly where that bloated, drug-addled parasite L. Ron Hubbard ended up. LEAVE THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL ALONE WITH YOUR SCAMS!!!
12. Scientology is a Cult
Matan ,   Tel Aviv   (08.15.07)
http://www.xenu.net http://www.whyaretheydead.net
13. All o f you need to seek psycological help right away!!!
Tom Cruise ,   Los Angeles, CA   (08.15.07)
14. Way to go Bibi!!!! B'H.
jan ,   usa   (08.15.07)
15. My best friend
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (08.15.07)
My best friend Stan was sucked into this cult after he took their "test" and received the best "N Gram" score in history! They thought he was the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard!
16. scientology
des ,   usa   (08.15.07)
nothing worthwhile ever came easy and I don't see christians out there doing emergency help at disaster scenes. I see scientologist right next to the red cross EVERY TIME !! I never heard of the crystal cathedral minster coming out in his own private plane delivering water and other needed items to katrina victims!!! I see scientologists out there being suppressed in the christian mainstream press...for what good deeds they do...
17. I wonder what Xenu what say about this
mike ,   US   (08.15.07)
how would a trans-galactic warlord handle the burning issue of child promiscuity? I know dropping nuclear bombs into volcanos is one way of handling things, but seriously my dear scientologists, What Would Xenu Do?
18. Scientology and Deception
rh ,   Modiin   (08.15.07)
They walk hand in hand. One moment it is about improving memory. They do not tell you about the Aliens in Volcanoes, or the cost of getting to the next level.
19. Uncle Ernie
zznhl   (08.15.07)
Welcome to Tommies holiday camp; the camp with a difference, when you come to Tommies, the holiday's forever!
20. Scientology/Hubbard
Tom ,   Los Angeles USA   (08.15.07)
Many comments about Lafayette Ron Hubbard's life give one pause but the one that chills me is: "According to his estranged son, L. Ron Hubbard Jr., when Hubbard Sr. was sixteen years old and living in D.C. he obtained a copy of the Book of the Law, by Alistair Crowley, which introduced him to the world of Occultism, black magic, and Satanism, a tradition which Hubbard Jr. claims greatly influenced his life at home and the teachings of Scientology."(from Wikipedia.org.) I wouldn't trust a child to his disciples.
21. #10
Alena ,   Prague, CZ   (08.15.07)
And do you need anyone to tell you this, do you need pamphlets for this? This is what your family teaches you before the age of 10, you don't need strangers to tell you.. Individual responsibility (only obtainable by THINKING) makes society better, not herd behavior..
22. who paid you?
Ruti ,   Los Angeles   (08.15.07)
Bat Hen, who paid you to write such a stupid and bigot article. Everything you mentioned about the booklet The Way to Happiness" isincredibly positive. What do YOU do to change our future generation? Sit in your chair and criticize those who DO care and who DO make a difference in the world? How dare you put down people of good will? I am ashamed of what you and those who pay you do.
23. if sombody doing something good -- let it be
Lee ,   Los angeles, ca   (08.15.07)
why it's so bad to do good things??? this is ok, they try to help.
24. Bigotry Lives, Even in Israel
QuietKid ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (08.15.07)
The article by Bat-Hen Epstein Elias has no place in YNetNews. Is our goal to make Israel a synonym for the places that so many Jews left to come to Israel? Elias suggests that Scientologists should introduce themselves as Scientologists in their businesses. That sounds a lot like wearing armbands in Heidelberg? And why the author's repetitive mentions of sex, sex, sex? The Way to Happiness booklet mentions sex in just *one* of its 21 chapters. But the author seems to have a Freudian fixation on that chapter. And perhaps you can think of a few nearby countries that you'd like to practice chapter 18: "Respect the Religious Beliefs of Others." Or would you censor that, too? Elias has the priorities wrong. Why criticize and spread suspicion about people who are doing all they can to improve the honesty of Israel's youth? What kind of person doesn't want more honesty in the world? And there's not one ounce of a specific religious message in the booklet. So let's not hear any nonsense about anyone spreading the Scientology religion in this booklet. It is time for the narrow-minded to broaden their horizons and realize what a kind and honest world we could have if every child learned and practiced The Way to Happiness--and then grew up to run a far better Israel.
25. where is Yad leachim?
Peninah   (08.15.07)
26. Scientology is a cult and a fraud
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (08.15.07)
But unlike some other cults they don't encourage people to have kids they can't afford and spend their lives collecting welfare and ADC
27. Not the first "sage"...
Josh   (08.15.07)
...to parralel a comic book and gather mass religious support. Is their no end to how gullible people are? Deut 13. Addition to Torah is forbidden. That includes anyone, including Rabbis. Back to the pashoot
28. L Ron Hubbard was convicted and should have been in prison
JeraldR ,   Al, USA   (08.15.07)
L Ron Hubbard wrote this stuff in the 1980's??? Well he had lots of time to do it as he was on the run from the law in the 80's after being found guilty and told to spend 4 years in prison. He died a convicted man hiding from prison. Not someone who writings I would want my children to follow.
29. Ignorant people throughout history
Oded ,   Clearwater, USA   (08.15.07)
History is consistently strewn with ignorant people who critisize the good and those who try to make things better. Bat Hen is one of them. I wonder what crimes Bat Hen has under her own belt that make her fight good moral codes in a psychotic attempt to hide them...
30. HELP!
Ariella ,   Los Angeles   (08.15.07)
Please someone help us! The Scientologists are at it again. They are helping those in need, they are helping people all over the world learn better, live a moral, responsible and fulfilling life! And the thousands of awards and accolades they have received around the world for resolving the problems of education, for saving people's lives, for giving up their own comfortable homes and going to far away places with solutions which really work -- those governments who gave those appreciation proclamations and awards to the Scientologists and L. Ron Hubbard didn't know what they were doing! Where will it all end? We must stop them. I know, let's make up something about them. Oh, here's a good one: let's make up some bad stuff about L. Ron Hubbard and his family. We don't have to prove what we say, everyone will believe it just because we say it. Will that be enough? I don't know. Just to make sure, let's say that people who are known to be psychotic criminals are Scientologists. Yeah, that's a good one. Now let's say it again and again - that will prove we're telling the truth. What do you mean "is this the truth"? Who cares? No one knows what Scientology is, so instead of looking it up at the source, let's just decide it's a bad thing. Oh, I forgot. We have to make sure people think that Scientology rivals Judaism. This way we can make sure no Israeli, and no Jew, will ever want to even find out about it. We don't need no stinking sanity or calm or knowing how to live a better life. We don't have no problems and even if we did, we already know everything.
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