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IDF leaves south Gaza, says Hamas operated like Hizbullah
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 14.08.07, 21:08
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1. I can never tell if it is real !!!
Mark ,   Georgia, USA   (08.14.07)
Is the picture real or fake , I just don't know anymore. Pallywood has done great harm to its people nobody believes them anymore. With so many staged photos/videos you can't tell if they're crying wolf. Sad. see here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B1H-1opys Mark from Georgia
2. Kill, kill, kill- and then complain
GUH ,   Russia   (08.15.07)
That's what you Israelis do all the time.
3. Hamas, Hizblabla, Assad are arms and legs of Iran
john ,   nz   (08.15.07)
with strings attached and waiting to be pulled. Would not be too exaggerated to say, Israel is surrounded. On a bigger picture, Israel is a tiny dot in the middle of the Islamic Empire from Morocco across Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, SE Asia- from Turkey right down to Sudan and Ethiopia. Israel cannot afford to have Olmert as their leader.
4. Oh, because that was such a hard fight for the IDF
David L.   (08.15.07)
Poor IDF, which was AGAIN confronted by a well-equipped and trained force operating like Hezbollah. Well, excuse me while I laugh. Hamas fighters were outgunned and outmatched as always, and the IDF just sat back in their tanks on this flat land, waiting for some fighters to dare try to confront their armor in the open. Hamas doesn't really care about this stuff; it only give them more popular support. Israel thinks these operations enforte their detterence and is good training for their young soldiers who, for the most part, just want to fire their guns as much as possible. Hamas and other groups, meanwhile, retain their hability to launch their ridiculously primitive rockets from densely populated areas in which they very well know the IDF will never go.
5. GUH
Yaron ,   USA   (08.15.07)
You Russians have a long history of losing to Islamic extremists such as in Chechnya and Afganistan. For you to praise Nasrallah and claim that all the Israelis do is complain is a joke. Keep drinking your vodka...it is doing wonders to your reasoning.
6. #5
GUH ,   Russia   (08.15.07)
Yes you Israelis complain. Qassam rockets have killed 20 people in the last seven years. In a single spree, like that in May, the IDF killed three times as many people, including the entire family and one neighbor of one lawmaker. And now that settlements and settlers that were in the West Bank illegally for the last 40 years are finally being dismantled, you Israelis say that Israel is being destroyed. You even accuse the United States and Europe, who have and are giving Israel 100s of billions of dollars in aid and sophisticated weapons, of joining forces with some force and destroying Israel. I'm not responsible for the actions of my government (nobody including yourself really is). Some actions, like the war in afghanistan and chechnya I've opposed. And I've never drank vodka, thank you very much. Enough said.
7. #2...crazed Russian
DR ,   Florida, USA   (08.15.07)
Your talkback stinks of propoganda. No one really thinks that Israelis like killing and that this is what thay always do. Your ignorant post ignores several issues that are relevant to this topic. 1. What have Palestinians done to stop terror? 2. Why do Palestinians continue to teach their kids to hate Jews and want ti kill Jews? 3. What do Arabs and Muslims give to the world as opposed to Isarel's technology, medicine. education etc? 4. Why does Russia continue to fund and arm terror states like Iran, Syria,hezballah and then have the balls to complian that Israel is too aggressive? Ansewr these please!
8. #4...what's your point?
DR ,   Florida, USA   (08.15.07)
Do you want the IDF to level out the playing field and use qassams and run around firing their guns in the air? Is it Israel's fault they have better weapns, funding from the US and better organization? If you think Hamas gains popularity by firing rockets from populated areas and hiding behind women and children...then you need help my friend!!!
9. #7
GUH ,   Russia   (08.15.07)
I'll comment on each four questions: 1. What have Israelis done to limit aggression on Palestinians? Even as there is a West Bank truce, they keep up their invasions, kidnappings, and random shootings. There has been a severe reduction of suicide bombings if you haven't noticed. The last one by Hamas was in the August of either 2004 or 2005. The IDF now kills 30 times as many Palestinians as the opposite Pal to Israeli killings. 2. Oh what do you expect? They took their land, their country and their future. Palestinians want it back and are not afraid to die to achieve this. When the Nazis invaded Poland, France, and other countries, there was always resistance/terrorism to fight for their liberation. That German who used a bomb to assassinate Hitler is an example. 3. Why don't you research this? Apparently Arabic was once the universal language for science. Baghdad was once the capital of world culture. One such book written by a scholar is the cornerstone of modern medicine. But why would ask a Russian to tell you this? Do your own research! 4. It is your delusion that Iran and Syria are terror states. What your country does is gather all your enemies and label them authoritarians, terrorists and then slander them; that you did to Russia throughout the cold war. Iran is an ally of Russia and so is Syria. Israel is an ally of the US and therefore receives arms from it. The difference is that Israel constantly resorts to force. It invaded Lebanon 5 times; it is always at war using silly pretexts to carry out wars. There call me what you want now, but I answered all four questions thoughtfully.
10. #9 GUH
DR ,   Florida, USA   (08.15.07)
What do you expect Israel to do when faced with constant terror attempts from palestinians? Do you not realize that suicide bombers try to infiltrate israel all the time? They probably don't report it in Russia. The security fence works, the IDF works and that is why there have been very few attacks. So your logic is wrong there. As for your allegations of Israelis taking Palestinian land...BS! reaed about the british mandate and how the palestinians wanted nothing to do with a peaceful , two-state affair. they rejected peace then as they do now. Again, you are wrong. As for Arabs, Muslims and science...what the hell have they done in the last century? NOTHINIG! They can't even drill their own oil. this is why the US is involved with Saudi Arabia, Dubai, etc. Without oil, these countries would be nothing. As for Iran and Syria...you are defending nations which kill their own citizens all the time. Women and minorities have little rights there, and yes they support terror groups like Hamas, hezballah...groups that want to kill civilians and hide behind them at the same time. You seem like a smart person, but your judgement is tainted with too much propoganda and hate towrds Israel. No one is perfect, but to compare Israel to Nazi germany is just plain stupid.
11. #10
GUH ,   Russia   (08.15.07)
DR from Florida, when the British mandate was formed, Jews made up 7% of the total population. High levels of immigration by Jews into Palestine from areas like Russia, Europe, and the Americas made the Arab inhabitants suspicious as they should be. Today America is complaining about illegal immigration from Mexico. What if these illegal immigrants thought that the US is for their sole enjoyment and that the inhabitants were to leave? What if they succeeded and then argued that Americans weren't even there? And why should the Palestinians accept to divide the land they held for centuries with foreigners? The notion that Hizballah hides behind civilians is utter BS designed to protect Israel's image after killing over 1100 civilians. What would they hide from- aircraft? Invading soldiers? BTW, Israeli soldiers use human shields to barge into homes even after the practice was banned by the Israeli court. DR, I do not care about Arab achievements in the last century. Russians have their achievements, Arabs have theirs. As for Syria and Iran, they do not kill their own citizens- it's more propoganda from America. Mr. Ahmadinejad denied the holocaust and you charge him with genocide. Tell me, when was the last time either of the two countries invaded another country? Syria's was in 1973to return ground captured in the 1967 war. Iran's invaded Iraq, but in retaliation for Saddam's aggression. How about Israel? Well if you don't count daily invasions of West Bank cities (today it was Nablus), then it was last year's invasions of Gaza and Lebanon. It is not my judgement that is tainted with propaganda my friend/ adversary/whatever. Intense hatred for certain races and religions from people like you is exactly what caused me to even make comments on this website.
12. #11..where to start?
DR ,   Florida, USA   (08.17.07)
1. Look up the Hama Massacre in Syria....read, learn and realize this is not propoganda...jsut hidden truth. 2. Israel has made peace with Egypt and Jordan and has kept it so....the fact that you think we hate Palestinians is absurd. We hate terrorists. 3. There is proof that Hezballah hid amongst civilians...why deny the truth? You can call anything propoganda, but the truth is out there and people know it. 4. I work with a muslim doctor, a chinese post-doc and many other religions, creeds and races. So calling me racist means nothing. This is the US buddy...we tolerate everyone equally. Russia...not so sure! You keep defending terror and hate and you try to make us seem like the bad guys, but the whole world knows the real deal. you need to wake up from your delusonal daydream and face the facts.
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