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Proud to be a madman
Hillel Weiss
Published: 17.08.07, 07:32
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1. right wing war monger
merle ,   raanana   (08.17.07)
dear god, please stop making this guy think he has your ear. if you cant even do that, then at least cause a spark of normal thinking to enter his brain. in the meantime, god help us from all these all your true believers of all stripes.
2. Just shut up already, ok?
Hilla   (08.17.07)
Your name is Hillel? That's a laugh. The real Hillel taught and loved peace...
3. " AT midnight all the agents and the superhuman-
micah ,   Jewish Country   (08.17.07)
crew comes to round up everyone who knows more than they do, and they bring them to the factory where the heart attack machine is strapped across their shoulders and then the kerosene is brought down from the castles by insurance men who go check to see that nobody is escaping to desolation row".... Bob Dylan
4. Col hacavod
Josh   (08.17.07)
We Israelis see the witch hunt and we expect all righteous legal proceedings to persue the intimidation tactics and defemation of character against you. There should be a legal fund setup for you. We expect the university to bite the bullet, if need be, and to stand against the intimidation. The administrators have a duty to stand up and be counted as Jews. Certain types of speach should be controlled, but railroading one because he thinks the mitary is wrong -speaks of a military state, politicians, and media under facist control. "The real freedom is to worship God. All the rest is nonsense." Amen Jewish state where are you? To the media, your intentions are aparaent. With this and the Rabim cultism you promote the message is clear, you want people to lay down for the politicians. It speaks to the public of a loudspeaker "do not resist the state" or you are a monster that will be tared and feathered. The politicians are there to serve Israel and not the other way around. Some millionaire in Israel should be ready to bail this individual out, should the witch hunt mob toss him in the icy river to see if he floats and is a witch or drowns proving he is not. If Bar Ilan fails to do the right thing and protect this man, they will lose more than they think, and the community should boycott if they ceed to unrighteous requests by witch hunters. We are watching and waiting for some good behavior and an end to this unrighteous witch hunt.
5. sometimes phD = phDUMB
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (08.17.07)
oftentimes, professors can be the nuttiest of the fruitcakes out there. common sense can't always be taught (or learned).
6. Mad professor
Sagi ,   Israel   (08.17.07)
People who worship God and gods, especially to the extreme,as do deeply religious folks from all denominations and creeds, insidiously work themselves into a psychotic state of mind and in many cases can become dangerous to society. This has been proved time and time again. The real freedom is to worship freedom and attain release from the self imposed slavery of worship of idols and metaphysical figments of human imagination. All the rest is nonsense. Pollard has not been betrayed or abandoned by anyone. I am just as sorry as the next person that he is in jail. The man betrayed his country of birth, the Nation that nurtured him. This is called treason and treason is a most serious crime. Pollard knew exactly what he was doing and also knew the consequences of being caught. We can not and must not interfere with the due process of law in America. I am far more concerned with the fact that Rafi Eitan is serving in the Parliament than the fact that Pollard is in jail. He, Eitan, was the cause of this affair, he miscalculated, he betrayed Pollard, he should be punished, not rewarded. If he was a man he would stand up and counted.
7. ENOUGH!!!! SMATA! HALAS! ARRETE!
World   (08.17.07)
The Lefty media circus has lost its mind. enough about this man! meanwhile terrorists have murdered people and they get a little back page blurb. This is ridiculous!
8. He is right! The inner threat is what will bring us down
Stop the moonbats!   (08.17.07)
Stop the lefties!
9. Sinking Ship
Way2GO ,   JL, IL   (08.17.07)
Prof is right....wake up you lazy gell haired, cut off tee-shirt wearing fryers. You're being robbed of your soul, and land.
10. Y-Net should help
jp   (08.17.07)
Ynet should help setup a legal fund, so that you wont sue them. Article heading "mad man" is clearly calling him crazy. We know most people read the headlines and not the story.
11. #3 good point but #1 & 2
Josh   (08.17.07)
#1 and #2 are you the people he speaks about in the article. This is the first time his voice has been heard on ynet. Most voices have been from others. I don't think he ever wanted his voice heard to begin with - thank the media for recording and broadcasting it.
12. # 8 The moonbats
Sagi ,   Israel   (08.17.07)
should indeed be stopped because they are as you say, an inner threat. They walk the streets of Jerusalem in strange garb, they utter strange incantations while bending down to a stone wall, they attempt to deny others their freedom, they refuse to teach their children chemistry, physics and maths, they hold women in contempt, they refuse to serve their country and Nation, Some of them reside in this country without being citizens and yet verbally abuse the Nation day in day out. I could go on as the list is long. I love this country and Nation and I have no doubt that these people are indeed the moonbats and indeed are the inner threat and should be stopped in their tracks. They will be our downfall, not our enemies.
13. did you negative tbs even read the article?
jack bauer ,   AU   (08.17.07)
the professor is totally right in practically everything he says I'm a ignorant goyim and even I can see what Israelis are doing to themselves. Its seems sad because they, the self hating jews will continue to do more damage to Israel then their enemies. Until the massive strikes against an ill prepared rump of a state that is left after olmert and co are done
14. I THINK THAT..............................................
AVROHOM BILGREI ,   ZION   (08.17.07)
I WILL HAVE A UTERUS SERGICALLY IMPLANTED SO THAT I CAN HAVE THE PROFESSORS BABY ! I LOVE YOU, HILLEL ! MY MOTHER USED TO SAY;WHEN EVER SHE SAW IN SOME ACTION I HAD TAKEN , A MODECUM OF "ECCENTRICITY":, "THE WHOLE WORLD IS CRAZY AND YOUR ALRIGHT ?" WELL;AFTER 35 YEARS,REALIZATION HAS SET IN, THE WHOLE WORLD IS CRAZY ! I'M CRAZY,I KNOW IT(MOST PEOPLE ARE BUT DON'T KNOW IT !) AND AM PROUD OF IT !! MAY THE PROFFESOR GIVE BIRTH TO A NEW ENLIGHTENMENT ! KOLAAAAAAAAAAKAVOD !!!!!!!!!!
15. The "madman" title by Andras Bereny
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Shomron   (08.17.07)
This "madman" title" is pejorative, not to say anti-Semitic. Cursing perpetrators of pogrom in Hevron or elsewhere is ethically, ideologically correct and necessary: A Kiddush Hashem. Putting Prof Wiess under pro pogrom penal pressure is clearly political and wrong. Prof. Weiss, there is a whole nation of Toah Jews behind you, don't despair, you did right and there are those who are proud of you! G-d bless you, Prof. Weiss.
16. Professor
Kevin Colton ,   Kansas City,USA   (08.17.07)
Where are all the champions of free speech in the media? Even if the speech is offensive, it does not rise to the level of treason, which is committed by Yariv Oppenheim and his cohorts on the Left.
17. dear yaWeiss, would you curse your own brother..
abdullah ,   ashkenaz   (08.17.07)
without feeling remorse and a pain that it came down to that. Tragically, there have been times in history when jews have become apostates and thier famillies have been forced to curse them for the betrayal of abandoning the family in times of oppression and joining the much stronger non-jewish oppression. In spite of the gravity of such a betrayal, such cursing was done with mourning and in private, and after personal and sincere attempts to bring the errant relative back. Why the sadness and effort? B'cos when you feel compelled to act harshly against family it hurts a lot. The commander you spoke those words to, as a jew, is like your brother or your son, with a common father (Yisro'el A"H). If you feel, heaven forbid, that he is an apostate joining an oppressor of am yisro'el that deserves such treatment. Then one would naturally expect that you would go to the same lenghts to correct him and suffer the same sadness to utter the words you did, as if he was your close relative. I agree with you that it is unjust to dispossess anyone simply on the basis of ethnicity, be they jews or arabs. Individual rights should be judged on the basis of the individuals moral conduct not political expediency, in a truly just comonwealth. And it is understandable that going through such injustice can lead to more than just uttering curses. Palisitinians who were dispossed were known to repeatedly curse those who they held responsible. But it is a lot easier to curse a foreigner than one's own brother, and is less advised. B'cos your brother may diagree with you politically today, but tommorow he may be your help. You also talk about an enemy within being the political left who you appear to claim do not trust in G-d. But there're other torah observant jews who trust in G-d so much that they minimise as much as possible their political activism towards simply trying to support (unpoliticised) torah education in the jewish commonwealth. For them true security will come from devotion to G-d's Torah not from rightwing (or leftwing) political activism. And if trusting in G-d is your objective, then I humbly recommend this approach, in order to avoid risk of politically motivated conflicts between Jews in the name of religion. abdullah ibn ami al israili
18. andras, #15, you belong in tapuah....
miri ,   ashdod   (08.17.07)
just hope you stay there (and take weiss with you and keep him there. he'll fit in just fine).
19. #6 Sagy, your arguments were defeated long ago by the Soviet
Mark ,   Boston   (08.17.07)
and the Chinese. They were societies without a god, violently against all religions, and you well know they managed to turn life into sheer hell. The problem is not religion, it is man. Religion, like ideologies, can be used as weapon for power and domination. The Jewish religion, unlike others, is not used that way. Oh, you'll name dozens of cases when it's used to limit personal freedom, but you know anybody can walk away from it, without fearing for his/her life. Your argument that Pollard betrayed the country of his birth doesn't hold either. When somebody's country of birth is doing something deemed to be wrong, a person has to stand up and refuse to be part of it. Had Pollard been born in Nazi Germany, is your argument that he should have remained loyal - or should he had done everything in his power to "betray" it for the sake of a higher moral value? Extreme secularism often sounds a lot like an extreme religion. Same blind hatred, same narrow focus.
20. OH # 6,# 6..................................................
AVROHOM BILGREI ,   ZION   (08.17.07)
HE DID A CRIME;HE DOES THE TIME,HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING,ABSOLUTELY ! ISN'T IT TERRIFIC THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OPENLY DISCUSS OUR POLITICAL DIFFERENCES ? ! HECK ,WERE OPPOSING VIEWS NOT THERE TO SHARE,HOW BOORING/POINTLESS WOULD DIALOG BE ? I MYSELF AM A "FANATICAL RIGHT WING EXTREMEST" THAT RELISHES A DYNAMIC OPPOSING VIEW,REALLY !! AGGREEMENT WITH YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS NOT RELEVENT ! TRUTH IS,WHATEVER YOUR VIEW IS ,IS FINE FODDER FOR DIOLOGUE ! PROBLEM IS,THE CLARITY OF OBSERVATION & ON POINT INSIGHT IS ESSENTIAL ! I HATE "MISSPLACED" VIEWS OF ANYBODY,PARTICULARLY WHEN NOT IN CONTEXT OF THE "TOTAL REALITY" AT HAND. NOW,SUPPOSE I SUGGESTED THAT YOU SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH FOR YOUR VIEWS ? I SHUDDER TO THINK OF THE REPERCUSSIONS ! I KNOW YOU'D AGGREE THAT I WAS "OVER THE TOP",OUT OF CONTROL,AS WELL AS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY AND I WOULD AGREE ! SIT DOWN,TAKE A DEEP BREATH,AND TAKE IN SOME HARD "COLD" FACTS........................ THE U.S. LIED TO POLLARD RE; A PLEA BARGAIN ,THE SENTENCE HE IS PRESENTLY SERVING IS INCONSISTANT TO ANY PREVIOUS PRECIDENCE IN AMERICAN JURICE PRUDENCE,IT'S "OVER THE TOP",OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY ! IT DOESN'T ADDRESS , NOR FIT THE CRIME,THATS WHY ONLY AFTER A DECADE,A DECADE AND 1/2 ,A GRASS ROOTS GROUND SWELL IS FERMENTING. WELL OVER TWO DECADES(OVER 8000 DAYS IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT) ,THAT CONSTITUTES AS BLATENT AN EXAMPLE OF THE CONSTITUTIONALLY PROHIBITED "CRUEL & UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT" AS IS TO BE SEEN ! AS MUCH AS I "HATE" YOUR VIEW (I CAN ADMIT TO HATE,I'M NOT "LIBERAL") I'M NOT SO CONSUMED WITH HATE AS TO CHAMPION YOUR EXECUTION,IT DOESN'T FIT THE TRANSGRETION ! I HATE THE IGNORANCE; THE VESLE YOU HAVE CRAFTED TO CONTAIN IT ! I FIND THE SHALLOWNESS OF YOUR PERSPECTIVE EXASPERATING AND AM INCREDULOUS THAT A HUMANOID WITH THE CEREBRAL FUNCTION SUB PLASTIC CARROT STARTLING,IT'S WITH GREAT SHIGRIN I ALLOW IT TO REGISTER ON THE RADAR SCREEN OF MY CONSCIENCENESS ! IGNORANCE IS UNIVERSAL,PATHELOGICAL IGNORANCE UNCHECKED IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY ! I WANT TO APOLIGIZE; I AM SEEKING HELP,I'LL BE CALLING MY DOCTOR TO BESEACH HIM TO PERSCIBE SOME PHARMACOLOGICAL REMEDY TO BRING DOWN MY I.Q. ABOUT 40 PTS.,I TRUST IN MY NEW "STATE" YOUR VIEWS WILL BE MORE PALATABLE,SORRY ! PERHAPS MABE,YOU COULD EDUCATE YOURSELF A BIT AND DISPEL THE IGNORANCE,I'VE DONE IT MY SELF AND IT'S VERY ENRICHING !
21. Mark , Boston
charles ,   petach tikva   (08.17.07)
Don't compare a dictatorship as nazi germaqny to a democracy . Conditions are very different , or no ?
22. Read the news - He's right
Russel ,   Tlv   (08.17.07)
An oleh, I see it all the time. And without the religion, zionism is nothing. Without zionism, you have no reason for a state of Israel. An enterprising man can make money anywhere...
23. Sagi, your anti-religionism is also fanatical
former officer ,   Israel   (08.17.07)
You're so busy making fun of religious customs that you're discerning enough to notice that there are many religious sects within Judaism, all of whom pray the same prayers. Worse, you're so busy making fun of religious people that you make the erroneous generalization that they're all draft-dodgers. Be advised, among the religious people you constantly denigrate in your talkbacks are members of the national-religious community. They have a HIGHER rate of enlistment to combat units (usually elite ones) than the general population. Maj. Roi Klein (z"l), who saved his troops in last summer 's war when he jumped on a live grenade, yelled Shma Israel when he did so because he was a religious man, from Eli (yes, a settlement). If you can't see that many religious people contribute LOTS to the nation and the military, if you insist on tarring ALL religious people with the same brush, then you are just as hateful and intolerant as the people that you criticize. Such intolerance is not made better simply because you don't choose to believe in a diety. Atheism can also be a type of religion and, sometimes, one that is more hateful and judgmental than traditional ones.
24. #13 by ur own admission u ignorant...since u don't know
what u r talking ,   about b quiet!   (08.17.07)
25. This is an incoherent rant by an idiot.
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (08.17.07)
26. # 23 Former officer
Sagi ,   Israel   (08.17.07)
Sir, you are wrong in all you say. I am very aware of the fact that many religious people serve their country and in all respects are dedicated upright citizens. I have respect for them in spite of the fact that I believe the worship of idols to be one of the most misguided conceptions of man. I have always been very careful to point out that my gripe is with the Haredim, and the Haredim only. I will not repeat myself as to why, it is patently obvious to all who have eyes and ears the reason why these folks are disliked by myself and I dare say the vast majority of Israelis. Once again, let me make it clear, Haredim only. I hate no one, but the Haredim I hold in contempt because of their behaviour, I happen to think that they are ridiculous in their way of life, but I do not hate them for this, only for their behaviour and constant flouting of the law. The law of this country is the law of the land and not Abrahamic law. I hope I have clarified and you will now understand me better.
27. # 20 Avrohom
Sagi ,   Israel   (08.17.07)
You incoherent rantings only go to clarify that what I said in # 6 is indeed the case. I feel very sorry for you.
28. All officers that gave orders to remove Jews
jason white ,   afula,israel   (08.17.07)
from gaza,Hebron,ect. should be broken in rank to private. All the cops and border patrol jailed.All soldiers should have their national service erased from the army records. They all could have refused and we Jews would have stood with them.
29. #6 So basically you've become your own G-D!! Since he is the
great I AM, that ,   means you loose.   (08.17.07)
30. Not in aide of anyone or anything. Ignore.
Pat   (08.18.07)
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