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Israeli soccer fans filmed cursing Prophet Muhammad
Rotem Grossman
Published: 30.08.07, 13:16
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1. Ural - this is "normal" behaviour
Jo Jo ,   UK   (08.30.07)
Racist and offensive chants are one of the joys of football world over. That’s why there’s a campaign in the UK and outer countries called: “Kick racism out of football”. How on Earth does Peres expect that with his Peres Center he can unite the Arab and Israelis with the foolish pastime!
2. Problem with the media and Islam (Whats in a name?)
(08.30.07)
Why do ALL news agencies feel the need to refer to Mohammed as 'the Prophet Mohammed'. He is certainly not my prophet nor for the greater part of 5/6 of the world's population. He should be stylized: Mohammed, the prophet (small P) of Islam. It's like how when they refer to Kerbala in the news. It's always 'the holy city of Kerbala' as if that is a fact. It's not holy to me, nor anyone who isn't a Shiite Or the one that irks me the most: the Al-Aksa mosque, the 3rd holiest site in Islam. Hey, how about Al-Aksa built on top of the FIRST holiest site of Judaism. That would change perspectives about tolerance and accomodation now wouldnt it? enough ranting...
3. Muhammad, the prophet of Islam practiced his faith...
Norway   (08.30.07)
in ways, which were opposite of parts of the teachings of the Quran. It says that Mohammad was sent to show the world God's grace and mercy. But he became a military dictator who attacked, slaughtered and plundered. These are not the ways of showing mercy... The Allah who is revealed in the Quran, is not a loving father. He says he will lead people astray. Surah 6:39,126 And he does not help those he leads astray... Surah 30:28 In fact he says he wants to use them to populate hell... Surah 32:13. Both Islam and Christendom contain false predictions: If the prophet speaks in the Name of the Lord, AND THE THING DOES NOT OCCUR AND DOES NOT COME ABOUT, THAT IS THE THING THE LORD DID NOT SPEAK. The prophet has spoken it wantonly… Deuteronomy 18:22 In light of the prophetic criteria given by God in Deuteronomy 18:22 we discover that both Muhammad and Jesus fails this test. This means that both Muhammad and Jesus are neither true prophets, nor are they the prophet like Moses, or the prophet that Moses wrote about... Deuteronomy 18:18 http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=13412
4. As far as we are concerned, Muhammed was never a prophet!!!
Moshe   (08.30.07)
5. how many idiots? 10!
bob ,   potomac, md   (08.30.07)
this is why Yediot Ahronot is called "Last Idiots"--for you tabloid senstionalism--from the headline and the article one would have thought that thousands of Isareli fans were singing this--but deep, deep into the article it turns out that it was just a handful--10--to quote an eyewitness--this is the type of senstionalism one would expect in the US from the tabloids at the grocery-store check-out.
6. Islamic Sensibilities .....
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (08.30.07)
Are totally one-sided, not in any way reciprocal. Strangely enough, they are not offended by anti-Jewish teachings in the Qur'an itself, nor by the virulent anti-Semitism officially encouraged in mosques across the world, nor by the publication & dissemination of anti-Semitic literature such as the infamous "Protocols" (available all over the Muslim world), nor do they have a problem calling Christians "Crusaders" & defining the Christian world as an enemy land subject to Jihad. The Taliban blew up statues of Buddha in Afghanistan, they blow up Hindou temples, kill Buddhists in Thailand, murder religious minorities such as the Yazidis (they just killed 500 in Iraq) as well as the Assyrian Christians, persecute Copts in Egypt, prohibit the wearing of crosses or Stars of David for tourists entering Saudi Arabia, bar non-Muslims from entering Mecca, enforce the death penalty on those that seek to leave Islam for another religion while at the same time financing missionary work all over the world, etc. etc. etc. And while our football fans certainly show poor behavior (as do football fans all over the world) it is of little consequence - certainly no where near promoting "martyrdom" against infidels as a way of entering paradise. A little perspective, please .....
7. Even though this behaviour is very common in Israe.. still
Rami ,   Nazareth, Israel   (08.30.07)
.. this does not make it right. it should be condemned and not accepted as a norm just like we condemn anti-semitisim
8. OLMERTIAN SOCCER FANS!
stude ham   (08.30.07)
Same brains... idiots.
9. You're absolutely correct Terry!
Eric ,   Montreal, Canada   (08.30.07)
I could not have said it better!
10. Why would they behave violently ?
Serge ,   Antwerp, Belgium   (08.30.07)
Racism at football stadiums is what is happening, how much one can disagree. Not long ago an israeli team played in belgium. Local muslims chanted antisemitic songs. Black players are greeted with monkey noises. Are the jews or the black behave violently because of that ? But when muslims are cursed they must react with violence ! The writer says she will never forget what happened, maybe this will teach her a lesson when she will see how muslims behave with "infidels"
11. #3 Jesus was never a prophet, he was and is the Son of God
made flesh, & now is ,   the last Adam!!!   (08.30.07)
12. #11 Do you know where you are???
Chaya ,   Bat Yam, Israel   (08.30.07)
You are at the site of an Israeli newspaper. Jesus - for us - was this Jewish guy who lived during the time of the Roman occupation of Judea. Some people then got it into their head to declare him the 'messiah' but doing so doesn't make it so.
13. Soccer fans
Martin Aubut ,   Sherbrooke, Canada   (08.30.07)
European hooligans used to make worst against their own people...
14. salam
t.h ,   berlin, germany   (08.30.07)
hi, first of all as always all of you directly talk about antisimite muslims , who do the same as this fans in such a situation. but its always the same issue, its getting boring always explainig you that arabs are simits like you. then there is somebody who is talking about saudi arabia which dont let non muslims enter mekka, so what? is this a reason to insult our prophet ? have you any time heard a muslim insulting prophet mousa? sure not. and dont mix politics with religion. and i am sure if this broadcast had shown this film... all your football team and the fans wouldnt had left turkey as they entered it.
15. cry me a river
Adam ,   NY. NY   (08.30.07)
Wow, football fans acting offensively, and towards whom...the poor defenseless muslims no less...cry me a river. Football fans are supposed to act as offensive as possible, racism included (ever been to a match in italy when an african man is playing?). And muslims need tougher skin, look what they print about jews in their papers.
16. never curse it will come back to u
abed ,   jerusalem   (08.30.07)
please show the tape & see what would happen
17. how about the anti-semistism of the whole arab world?
rachel ,   usa   (08.30.07)
18. The Messiah
Debbie ,   Hollywood, USA   (08.30.07)
#12. Read Isaiah Ch 53 Right there it proves Jesus is our Messiah!!
19. How did she travel with the team?
David ,   Hartford USA   (08.30.07)
How could a lone Muslim woman travel with a bunch of young Jewish studs? Certainly she has disgraced her family. In no time at all she'll be begging for Jewish protection from her father, brothers, uncles, etc who are planning her 'honor' killing. Hey Elif, Israelis act stupid all the time- but they don't go insane and kill because someone said something they didn't like. I doubt the same can be said for any of your fellow countrymen. Lighten up.
20. t.h., indeed you are getting boring
Jake   (08.30.07)
"its getting boring always explainig you that arabs are simits like you." Very funny. Did you know that the term 'semites' was invented by German 'anthropologists' to give a scientific basis for discrimination against Jews? It had nothing to do with Arabs. Quite the opposite. The Nazis were very happy to encourage Arab hatred of Jews to further their goals of exterminating the Jewish people. As for Moslems not insulting "The prophet Moussa", i.e. Moses/Moshe, why would they? The Koran took the Jewish patriarchs, kings, judges, and prophets and turned them into prophets of Islam. This is the way they have been operating since the beginning - by taking things from others, and then capitalizing on bogus terms like 'Abrahamic religions' and 'fellow Semites'. It is all one giant swindle, and you know it.
21. the Prophet Mohammed?!?!
Drew ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (08.30.07)
Now Mohammed is our Prophet too? Why is Ynet publishing any article calling him a Prophet if to Jews he isn't one?!
22. cry me a river
Richard ,   London UK   (08.30.07)
Dear Adam NY how many games have you been to in Italy? Or in England for that matter? My team in London are known as 'the yids' but other fans. That term is deemed offensive and is banned. Shall we reinstate it? Racism is not part of football
23. not surprised at all
(08.30.07)
what this reporter felt on that plan , is what 6 million palistinians who are living in palestine feel every hour of the day , dear God what happened to humanity ?
24. #16 - Abed and his veiled threat of violence....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (08.30.07)
apparently likes the fact that his own people behave like ANIMALS when they are offended.
25. rather than politically correct, we have to be factually ...
honest ,   los angeles   (08.30.07)
rather than politically correct we have to be factually correct, and read more about the life and behavour of "prophet" moHamMad
26. #11 When Israel was a child then I loved him...
Norway   (08.30.07)
and out of Egypt (idolatry/slavery) I called My son... The more they (the prophets) called them, the more they went from them they sacrificed unto the Baalim, and offered to graven images. And I, I taught Ephraim to walk, taking them by their arms but they knew not that I healed them. Hosea 11:1-3 God reviews Israel’s beginnings, when the nation was but a “lad” in Egypt. He sent Moses to redeem them, but “Ephraim,” (Ten Lost Tribes) representing the future idolators, (the Christians) failed to recognize that it was God who had saved them. And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh: Thus saith the LORD: ISRAEL IS MY SON, MY FIRST-BORN. And I have said unto thee: Let My son go... THAT HE MAY SERVE ME. Exodus 4:22-23 For unto Me (GOD) the Children of Israel... ARE SERVANTS, THEY ARE MY SERVANTS (the Jews) whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt:.. I am the LORD your God. Leviticus 25:55 A large percentage of the non-Jewish world worships an individual Jew. The non-Jewish world must come to recognize that all Jews are sons of God. Ye are the children of the LORD your God... For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be His own treasure... out of all peoples that are upon the face of the earth.... Deuteronomy 14:1-2 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt... and thou knowest no God but Me, and beside Me there is no saviour. Hosea 13:4 In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the Children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah... together they shall go on their way weeping... and shall seek the LORD their God. Jeremiah 50:4
27. Would Israelis endanger lives of Muslims cursing Moses?
Tahl ,   Israel   (08.30.07)
I highly doubt it. Not that I condone these fans' despicable behavior. I just point out - that Muslims tend to be extemely sensitive when their religion is offended, they start rioting and killing. While Jews from the other hand, from the dawn of history have been quiet victims of many forms of anti-semetism. Why is it not a headline when Arab newspapers routinely show Israeli Prime ministers as Hitler or as Dracula?
28. Prophet Mohammed PBUH
Mohammed ,   Al-Quds, Palestine   (08.30.07)
Prophet Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him) is the best creature Allah has ever created. He was sent as a mercy to mankind, preaching equality and brotherhood that attracted 1.5 Billion humans to embrace him and his message. Having said that, It will take much much much more than a few drunken racist hopless ill-minded low-brought-up zionists to tarnish his glorious tradition.
29. Typicvally islamist response
anti-alla ,   new York USA   (08.30.07)
So this salam character hides out in Berlin Germany where he enjoys all the benefits of Western Society and then he engages in the vilest of Anti-Semitism. if only the German government had the cojones to remove foreign Anti-Semites from its soil! Of course SOWdi Barbarian racism/Totalitarianism is NO reason AT ALL to resent the mahometans!! Ooooho.. nooo..!! Like I said, this is standard mahometan rhetoric! Keep on singing your songs, Maccabi fans!!
30. Adam: Are you serious?
Izik ,   Silicon Valley, CA   (08.30.07)
You wrote: "Football fans are supposed to act as offensive as possible, racism included." What is there, some FIFA rule that football fans are required to chant racist or antisemitic slogans? Why is racism permissible at football games, but somehow should be censured elsewhere? If it is permissible at football games, it is permissible everywhere; and if that is the case then there is no moral case agaisnt Nazi Germany or apartheid-era South Africa. Get real, for crying out loud.
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