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1. In Islam one is taught that Jesus second coming...
is in Islamic prophecy.
They say that Jesus pure
hands will murder
the false Jewish Moshiach.
Then he will kill the "pigs,"
break the cross,
demolish oratories and churches
and kill Christians,
except those who believe in him,
in Moslem terms, it is speaking
about believing in him as a prophet
and not as the S-on of God.
Jesus, Mahdi both coming,
says Iran''s Ahmadinejad:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53430
Contrary to Mohammed's prophecy, the Christian Bible
prepares its readers that the outcome of the siege
in the time of "Jacob''s trouble"
WILL NOT BE
THE TOTAL ANNIHILATION
OF THE JEWS
but that Christ himself will
descend on the Mount of Olives
for judgment as H-e fights
the enemies of Israel.
BUT WHAT DOES THE JEWISH SOURCE DOCUMENT SAY:
Hashem will go out and wage
war with those nations...
as He waged war on the day
of battle.*
Zechariah 14:3
*At the End of Days, in the War
of Gog and Magog,
the nations will conquer Jerusalem and divide its spoils,
BUT GOD WILL SAVE THE PEOPLE, AS HE DID WHEN
THE EGYPTIANS PURSUED THEM
to the Sea of Reeds (Radak).
On that day, Hashem saved Israel* from the hand...
of Egypt (the enemy).
AND ISRAEL SAW THE EGYPTIANS
DEAD ON THE SEASHORE.
Israel saw the great hand
(Arm of ADONAI),
that Hashem inflicted upon Egypt,
and the people revered Hashem,
and they had faith in Hashem
and in Moses, His servant.
Exodus 14:30-31
God wanted the Jews TO SEE
THE FULL EXTENT...
OF THE SALVATION,
SO HE HAD THE SEA TOSS
THE BODIES OF THE DEAD
EGYPTIANS ONTO THE SHORE
where the Jews had emerged...
Otherwise, the Jews might think,
"Just as we came out on this bank,
so the Egyptians came up on
the other side and will pursue us (Rashi).
Your right Hand, Hashem, is glorified with strength...
Your right Hand, Hashem,
SMASHES THE ENEMY.
Exodus 15:6
Who believes our report?
To whom is the Arm
of ADONAI revealed?
Isaiah 53:1
Arm of ADONAI refers in
the Scripture,
TO THE SPIRITUAL AND MILITARY
SALVATION
OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE
from the Gentiles who tyrannize them.
ISRAELS LAST VINDICATION AND SALVATION IN THE EYES
of many nations is a central theme
in the last 27 chapters of Isaiah.
THE SALVATION OF THE AFFLICTED NATION ¨
IN THE PRESENCE
OF THEIR PERSECUTORS,
the Gentile nations.
And His feet shall stand* in
that day upon
the Mount of Olives, which is
before Jerusalem on the east,
and the Mount of Olives
shall cleft...
in the midst thereof.
And ye shall flee to the valley
of the mountains
for the valley of the mountains
shall reach unto Azel yea,
ye shall flee, like as ye fled
from before the earthquake,
and the LORD my God
shall come, and all
the holy ones with thee. .
Zechariah 14:4,5
*An anthropomorphism indicating the cataclysmic events
that will occur. Radak suggests
THAT THE SPLITTING...
of the Mount of Olives is to
be understood as a metaphor
FOR THE TOTAL ROUTING
OF THE INVADING ARMIES.
Both Islam and Christendom contain false predictions...
If the prophet speaks
in the name of The Lord,
AND THE THING DOES NOT OCCUR
AND DOES NOT COME ABOUT,
THAT IS THE THING THE LORD
DID NOT SPEAK.
The prophet has spoken it wantonly…
Deuteronomy 18:22
In light of the prophetic criteria
given by God
in Deuteronomy 18:22
we discover that both Muhammad and Jesus fails this test.
This means that both Muhammad and Jesus are false prophets...
they are not the prophet like
Moses, or the prophet
that Moses wrote about...
Deuteronomy 18:18
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=13412
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2. Bibi
David , |
Yerushalayim |
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(09.04.07) |
Wasn't Bibi the one that withdrew from most of Hebron - or was that a different Bibi?
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3. no. 1
Viking , |
Dubai |
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(09.04.07) |
Herre Gud. Get over it.
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4. What did Netanyahu do to stop Gaza Surrender ?
Marcel , |
florida |
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(09.04.07) |
A consumate politician this Netanyahu. He talks swell but that is all.
How easliy the mush brained masses fall for these charlatan politicians who speak with forked tongues.
Pslam 118;8-9
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5. #1 Norway
Marcel , |
Florida |
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(09.04.07) |
Thank you for the message to the nations.
As for Moshiach, Israel has married herself to their false peace messiah George and divide their land according to the plan of their new. god.
Jesus warned that another would come in his own name and Israel would recieve him.
Israel is still in love with this one who steals their land and gives it to the Islamic terrorists.
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What has happened to our beloved israel?Rockets towards serdot and this mindless female parrot talking about a pale state.Shame,shame shame!
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7. #1: An eschatology class?
Ariel Yochanan , |
London UK |
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(09.04.07) |
If you must give us an eschatology lesson, write your own article in Y-net but not on talk back.
As for Yeshua, why don't you wait till Mashiach comes. We shall certainly know then. Either you will be vindicated or "G-d forbid we.......?"
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8. Talking the talk.
Ariel Yochanan , |
London UK |
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(09.04.07) |
Netanyahu is talking the talk now. I do wish he becomes primeminister but when and if he does, would be able to resist the American pressure and walk the walk?
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9. # For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus...
whom we did not preach,
or [if] ye receive
a different spirit,
which ye did not receive,
or a different gospel,
which ye did not accept,
YE DO WELL TO BEAR WITH HIM.
2 Cor 11:4
The Parable of the Tares
of the Field:
And He - Jesus - said, the one
who sows the good seed
is the Son of Man, (Jesus/Isa)
and the field is the world
and as for the good seed,
these are the sons
(the Christians)
of the kingdom (of heaven)
and the tares are the sons
(the Jews) of the evil one...
and the enemy who sowed them (the Jews) is the devil,
and the harvest is the end
of the age
and the reapers are angels...
(the Moslems)
So just as the tares (the Jews)
are gathered up
and burned with fire,
so shall it be at the end of the age.
Matthew: 13:36-40 NKJ
The Son of Man will send out
His angels...
and they will gather out of His kingdom (of heaven)
all things that offend... (the Jews),
and those who practice (sin)
lawlessness, (the Christians)
and will cast them
into the furnace of fire.
There will be wailing
and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 13:41-42 NKJ
Then the righteous (the Jews)
will shine forth...
as the sun in the kingdom (of God)
of their Father.
He who has ears to hear,
let him hear!
Matthew 13:43 NKJ
That is to say Jesus who sows the “good seed” – his parable
is just like Ahmadinejead's sayings
who wants to nuke the Jews
– and burn them with fire.
Ahmadinejad’s plan is exactly according to
the parable of Jesus.
Same evil teaching as the Quran.
He – Jesus - said to them:
An enemy (the devil)
has done this.
The servants said to him,
Do you want us then
to go and gather
them (the Jews) up?
But he said, No, lest while you gather up the tares (the Jews)
you also uproot the wheat
(the Christians) with them.
Let both grow together
until the harvest
and at the time of harvest
I will say to the reapers,
(the Moslems)
First gather together
the tares (the Jews)
and bind them in bundles
to burn them,
but gather the wheat
(the Christians) into my barn.
Matthew 13:28-30 NKJ
Hear the word of The LORD,
O ye nations
and declare it in the isles
afar off, and say:
He that scattered Israel doth
gather him, and keep him,
as a shepherd doth his flock.
FOR THE LORD HATH RANSOMED
JACOB,
AND HE REDEEMETH HIM FROM
THE HAND OF HIM
that is stronger than he...
And they shall come and sing
in the height of Zion,
and shall flow unto the goodness
of The LORD, to the corn,
and to the wine, and to the oil,
and to the young
of the flock and of the herd,
and their soul shall be as a
watered garden, and they
shall not pine any more at all.
Jeremiah 31:9-11
And the ransomed of The LORD SHALL RETURN
and come with singing unto Zion,
and everlasting joy shall be upon their heads,
they shall obtain gladness ¨
and joy, and sorrow
and sighing shall flee away.
Isaiah 35:10
And The LORD will guide thee continually,
and satisfy thy soul in drought,
and make strong thy bones.
and thou shalt be like
a watered garden,
and like a spring of water,
whose waters fail not.
And they that shall be of thee
shall build the old waste places,
thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations
and thou shalt be called;
the repairer of the breach,
the restorer of paths to dwell in.
Isaiah 58:11-12
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11. Floridian poubelles
English guy , |
London, UK |
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(09.04.07) |
"Israel is still in love with this one who steals their land and gives it to the Islamic terrorists. "
Phew! Shall we have a conversation about rank paranoia and hysteria here?
Fact is, if Madame Livni, as Foreign Minister, decides that the best future for Israel is to divest itself of the Palestinian territories and to see the foundation of a Palestinian state, then that is obviously based on her calculation that it would be the best way forward for her country.
To state that she steals land and gives it to Islamic terrorists simply informs the reader that you are so out of touch with reality that it is sad. Do you really think that she could get herself elected on the platform "steal Israeli land and give it to Islamic terrorists"? Or that she could have that as a sub-text to her political career?
I think that someone in Florida is really living in cloud-forty-thousand cuckoo land and that the signs of delusional paranoia are very visible.
Now - why don't you join the debate with some real thoughts and not the stream of utter drive to which you have subjected us for months.
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12. The Arabs responsible for stalemate! There is no "window of
opportunity" "partner" "strengthening Abbas" "moderate Palestinians" and all these fictitious terms borne out of foolish minds!
Stalemate is better than disaster!!!!!
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13. STALEMATE IS BETTER THAN TOTAL DISASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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14. Time to learn the lesson from the Gaza pullout!
Helene , |
Israel |
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(09.04.07) |
Let's not make the same mistake again!
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15. Bibi's 100% correct
Steven , |
San Francisco |
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(09.04.07) |
And even if he weren't, Jews have the right to live in the land of Israel as they choose. New elections and a rejection of American demands are what is needed at this time.
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16. #11 english guy
Marcel , |
Florida |
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(09.04.07) |
Who said anythiong about livni ,she is just a small useful idiot pawn of Emperor Bush whom Israel serves and worships as he steals their land.
got it ? or should I write s-l-o-w-e-r- f-o-r- y-o--u.
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17. Ignore The US
Christy , |
Boston, US |
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(09.04.07) |
If the US advises Israel to give up land to the 'Palestinians'.... Israel should tell the US to take a hike.
We, in the US, must let our congressmen/women know that we DO NOT want the US policy toward Israel to include giving up any land.
Israel should keep the land it has and get back what it's given away.
Giving land away will only result in Israel's demise. Land won't buy peace from the Muslims. The Muslims want Israel totally gone.
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18. IT'S TIME THAT BIBI GETS BACK IN POWER
HAL TRIPP , |
LA PAZ, BOLIVIA |
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(09.04.07) |
WE HAVE ISRAEL'S LEADERS TALIKNG PEACE WITH ABBAS CRONIES,GAZA KEEPS SENDING ROCKETS IN ISRAEL,HEZBULLAH JUST WAITING TO START ANOTHER ROUND OF FIGHTING,SYRIA ARMED TO THE TEETH AND EGYPT ON A POWDER KEG WITH IT'S MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD READY TO SNATCH POWER, PEACE TALKS? GIVING BACK MORE SETTLEMENTS TO THESE SAVAGES, OLMERT LIVES IN A HOLLYWOOD DREAM LAND.
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With every post, you reach new and dizzying heights of projection and hypocrisy. Were you a speechwriter for Arafraud (for the english side of his mouth, I mean)?
To see a plonker of your magnitude accusing others of rank paranoia, hysteria, living in cloud-forty-thousand cuckoo land, and then suggesting they join the debate with real thoughts - sends my irony meter through the roof.
Monty Python's got nuffin' on you, al-rustum. Please, proceed to amuse us with your world class satire.
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20. Those who want Marcel banned from Ynet please post it now!
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21. Status Quo Unnacceptable
Jason, Ph.D. , |
USA |
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(09.04.07) |
I keep on saying this, and will continue to do this because "he who watched out over Israel neither sleeps nor slumbers". If Israel makes the final decision that a withdrawal is impossible, then it must do something to mitigate the demographic situation. I recommend a combination of a massive outreach to the Diaspora for investment in Israeli technologies and large-scale Jewish immigration. Then I recommend implementation of the Jerusalem Summit's plan for providing West Bank Pals monetary rewards for leaving. The status quo is obviously unnacceptable. Stagnation works agains Israel. Israel must have a well-thought plan if she wants to keep the West Bank. Bibi, what is your plan?
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22. Peace for Land
M. Hartley , |
Atlanta, US |
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There is no such thing as "peace for land." It didn't work for the Native American Indians, and it won't work for Israel. From the looks of it, ceding land has been perceived as a weakness and more and more will be demanded. Not only that, but to the "other guys" and to a few "spectators" it only confirms the impression that you occupied land that, by the fact of your cessation, you, yourself, didn't believe belonged to you in the first place. After all, what sane nation gives up parts of its territory for a price no higher than mere threats? Whether based on l947 or 1967, Israel should set its international borders and turn those threats around. In other words, "This is the State of Israel. These are our borders which we intend to defend and protect with everything we have." No more discussions, no more "deals," no more "yeah, buts;" simply End of Story. Tell everybody to go to hell, let the other side do whatever it wants to, BUT make it very clear that, if it wants a piece of Israel, it'll have to come and get it and pay such a high price for even trying, it may, in fact, decide that it really doesn't want it. If there are foreign nationals within your borders, you give them the choice to leave or to damn' well comply with the laws of the State of Israel. You do not grant them Israeli citizenship leave alone allow them a voice in your government!! If Israelis decide to build settlements outside of your borders, have them understand that your military will not defend them, but that they're on their own.
If you guys don't put down your foot at some point and stop giving away your country acre by acre, pretty soon it'll be Masada or some equivalent all over. I simply can't believe that your fathers and grandfathers sacrificed their lives for - given a worst case scenario - no more than the permission by the likes of Mahmoud to visit one of his Jewish Community Centers in Iran, if he feels like it and if Allah tells him that it's ok.
Changing the method by which you elect your government might help, too. We get to throw out our big dogs very unceremoniously every 4 years, regardless of the backroom deals they cook up to keep their jobs. That 4 years, most of the time, limits the damage they do and allows the country to recover. We can keep them for 8 years, if we feel like it and if they have shown to have some redeeming values, but no more than that.
Although it doesn't count for diddlysquat over there, the above is, nevertheless, my opinion.
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23. .. remember "ONLY BIBI CAN DELIVER" what was he promising?
Nebojsa Yitzchak M , |
Toronto |
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(09.04.07) |
Israel?
Bibi is a malignant narcisszoid he seem to like his mirror more than his country. He betrayed voters that voted him in last time, (he betrayed his wife as well..) he gave great speeches that were truly moving, so much that even some kids in "red" kibuzims started wearing the jamukes those kids start identifying with being Jewish, and felt proud of what Yiddishkeit stands for.. But when the price was right Bibi betrayed all that trusted in him (me included).
If CEO betrays his corporation (lets say he gave some parts of the corporation to its mortal enemy.. defrauding the shareholders) would that freak would ever be given the second chance? (after hi served his time of course..)
Lets say one gave some secrets to the enemy.. i.e. what Israeli Navy had for a breakfast last morning? he would go to the jail.. riiight? Now if one gives 1/3 of land to the enemy.. he is RE-ELECTED??
What are those elections anyways, the same puppets are on the show over and over again, there is no one ELSE qualified in a whole Israel to lead.. with some INTEGRITY and HONESTY? This show is no longer just the bizarre comedy but it becomes a boring TRAGEDY.
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24. To #20: I want Boruch Marzel given full rights!
Rafael Rabinovich |
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(09.04.07) |
What is that banning nonsense?
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25. Harlley, #22
Jason, Ph.D. , |
USA |
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(09.04.07) |
I think your plan has some good ideas. Deciding where the border should be and then make it so is not a bad idea. Then if the Pals attack, Israel responds by re-capturing the land the Pals attacked from and annexing it. The main 'problem' with your plan is that the extremists of the settlers will not be willing to evacuate anything. They do this on idealogical grounds. Israel will have to tell them that if they end up on the other side of the border and refuse to leave then they are on their own. The location of the border should be on strategic and demographic realiites. By the way, some of these extremists who are willing to overthrow the government are not doing either Israel or the Jewish people any favors. They remind me of the 'zealots' who engaged in civil war about how to defend Jerusalem from the Romans in the year 70 CE. Israel is a democracy, and nobody should take the law into his/her own hands (except in the most extreme of circumstances.)
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26. to # 1 & 9 Typical muslim Lie.
Mr. Norwegian muslim sir. You are quite blatantly misquoting your sources. 2 Cor 11:4 does not say "YE DO WELL TO BEAR WITH HIM." those are your words, an islamic lie. The actual words are "LET HIM BE ACCURSED."
There is also a promise at the end of Revelation that you should be aware of that warns people not to add or subtract one jot or tittle from the source or suffer the plagues written in the source. YE DO WELL TO BEAR WITH THAT Mr. muslim Sir.
Go twist your own holy book if you want to twist something.
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27. To #25
M. Hartley , |
Atlanta, US |
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I am not suggesting anarchy or taking the law into one's own hand. Right, wrong or indifferent, the options of acceptable borders could be decided by a national referendum. That should take care of the extremists at either end of the spectrum. As things stand right now and for reasons unfathomable to me, nobody is even willing to say, "enough; no more and no further!" As they gleefully pointed out in so many words, the lukewarm aka measured retaliation by Israel to those Qassams and the misery they inflict on the people of Sderot is a victory for Hamas. One way or the other, Israel should make them choke on those words and squeeze Gaza so badly, the population itself would get rid of every last one of them. If you have a nest full of rattle snakes in the yard, you don't sit there, wait for them to leave the nest, kill one today, another one tomorrow and a few more next week. You pour gasoline on the entire nest, throw a match and be done with it.
Oh, right, there is the UN, the EU, the US, the UAE etc. etc. Well, to hell with all of them. I suspect that not a single member of any of them would put up for one minute with the garbage with which they expect Israel to deal. And all in hopes of what?? Less and less land and more and more rockets? Where, when and how is it supposed to end? A State for the Palis that they wouldn't know how to run and another memory of one more Israel? What a horrible waste!
My day started off so nicely, and now I'm all pissed off over something that isn't even my business. I need to stop reading.
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28. #1 and all those who agree
I feel sorry for all you misunderstood people.
If you don't understand the scripture then don't try to interpret it, you will get it all wrong. Then you will lead the ones who truly want to understand astray.
The book has been proven accurate numerious times. Prophecy has been fulled in the LAST 15 years, but this World is blind to it, because they are to busy with there Worldly things and failed to understand what was told to come.
Only several more years left!
"Lord open thier eyes before it is too late!"
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29. #20 agreed - and Chatich immediate effect
English guy , |
London |
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30. #19
English guy , |
London |
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(09.05.07) |
Can you not read? Can you not see rank stinking paranoida when it stares you in the face?
Oh - but so easy to scream anti-semitism all the time.
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