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Shas opposed to German car
Itamar Eichner
Published: 10.09.07, 09:10
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1. does he prefer ministers to all drive skodas?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (09.10.07)
let's not be anti-german here.
2. BIG MISTAKE
Jason ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.10.07)
This is ridiculous. Audi steering shafts are not suited to Israel's roads, and skodas are dumbed down VWs. Volvo cars are safer but are not of the performance of BMW or Mercedies. What of the Japanese cars - Honda could well be a better set of models to serve all government needs, whilst being a high performance car that at times can rival the German makes - in case you haven't guessed, choose the most suitable car, don't cut your nose off to spite your face.
3. Skoda is owned by Volkswagen - i.e. it is also German
Rupert ,   Jerusalem   (09.10.07)
4. The Usual BS From Shas.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (09.10.07)
Why are they still in the coalition? If they had ANY ethics or patriotic feeling for the security of the country, they would quit Olmert's crap coalition. Religious hypocrites -
5. By the way ....
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (09.10.07)
If we had to stop buying products from every country that had a past history of persecuting Jews or that took an anti-Israel political position, we would only buy from Eskimos.
6. SHAS BRAIN NOT FUNCTIONING
SHULI ,   CLEVELAND USA   (09.10.07)
Message to the fool Eli Yishai: Skoda Auto is owned by Volkswagen, the GERMAN corporation that also owns Audi. Another message to Yishai: Volvo is Swedish, a country that is notoriously anti-Zionist/Semitic and is owned by Ford, one of histories most Anti-Semitic characters responsible for introducing The Protocols of the Elders of Zion to North America. Also, aren't the taxis that operate in Israel mostly German cars?
7. Today's Germans Are NOT Guilty Of Grandparents' Sins
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (09.10.07)
This is already ridiculous. The considerations for purchasing cars should involve value, safety, reliability, etc... NOT what peoples' ancestors did. Judge today's Germans for their own actions- just like everyone else.
8. Volvo supplied Israel with
Sagi ,   Israel   (09.10.07)
ministerial cars "since the establishment of the State". Utter nonsense. To the point. Cars are not a political issue, cars are a necessary convienience and only the best must be chosen, the best is always the cheapest and most reliable. It is also in our best interests to enhance as much as we can our relationship with Germany of today. Yesterday is history, not to be forgotten, but nevertheless history.
9. Shas opposed to German Cars
Millie ,   Israel   (09.10.07)
I can fully understand their opposition to German cars,but why Volvo which is also an expensive make why not a Mistubitshi,or Hyundi,Honda, like the majority of the citizens of Israel drive, why do the ministers deserve to drive anything fancier than the rest of us?I can see the Prime Minister and President being driven in fancy cars,but not the rest of them. Let them drive what the people drive,knock them off their high horses,for the jobs they do they really don't deserve cars anyway, they are just dragging down this country with all their greediness,political croninism, and corruption!
10. ENOUGH! The government needs the bus
rpc ,   modiin, Israel   (09.10.07)
it's not enough that their salaries are inflated, they barely show up for work (and when they do, they ruin the country), they get free cars, free offices, free trips, free food, free hotel stays, free phones, etc. Now they want to spit on the souls of our ancestors and family members who were burned in the ovens and shot to death and gassed to death by OFFICIALLY driving German cars? ENOUGH!!!! Thank G-D Shas is stepping up - but where is Mafdal? Where is LIeberman? Where are the Zionists who think it's disgusting that the official representatives of our Jewish state will drive cars created by the ancestors of Nazis? And if not for the spirit of Zionism... what about the environment? Are the pigs in the government too good for a Prius or Civic Hybrid? And why am I shocked every day at the new low levels our government officials stoop to for their own sick benefits?
11. German Cars - Olmert to blame
Seagull ,   Israel   (09.10.07)
Why can't we just blame it all on our Prime Minister. ? Why should Shas take the credit for this one ? Come on Olmert bashers where's your loyalty ? Surely there is a way we can twist this round to bash Olmert. Why has the PMO gone quiet over this one ? What are they trying to hide ?
12. The goose that lays the golden eggs
Wolfram ,   USA   (09.10.07)
Minister Cohen should know that a hunk of the money paid for German cars comes back to Israel in the form of reparations/charity, allowing his constituents to sit around avoiding work and military service
13. 3 - d'oh!
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (09.10.07)
what do i know?
14. Micronesia produces cars ??????
Jack Klaber ,   R. Hasharon, Israel   (09.10.07)
I second those that said we can only buy from those sources that never did anything wrong. Japanese cars???? Ask Japanese camp survivors if they can explain the difference in inhuman behavior between Nazis and imperial WWII Japanese. French?? Those bastards going to the Arabs after 1967 to make a dollar and deserting us?? Italian cars?? Fiat sponsoring fascisme and Mussolini because it was good business? Nobody is clean. We ourselves are not clean with so many years of oppression and kinds of political-militaristic-anti terroristic racism or ethnic apartheid policies.......... My standpoint is that of my mother z"l, a Theresienstadt and Auschwitz survivor: She fled Germany as a young woman and came to the Netherlands. After the war she bought German products if they were the best or/and the cheapest. Her rationale was: " I do not let them hurt or damage me again. I won't buy anything inferior just to avoid German origin. I myself am from German origin and it's not the language or the country that is to blame...." However, in case of a government choosing in which cars they want the world to see their leaders drive/being driven, the rationale HAS to be different. Either make the cars yourself ( not likely that the US will veto it like the LAVI under the NIH syndrome) or buy/continue with neutral cars like Volvo or something similar.
15. Minister Eli Yishai
joe ,   vienna   (09.10.07)
Do You oppose german built submarines, given as a gift to Israel, as well???????
16. german cars
Martin ,   Germany   (09.10.07)
...and what do you think about german tanks and submarines??? is it ok as long as you deny official partnership?
17. Israel has no trouble buying and sailing German submarines!
Stewart ,   USA   (09.10.07)
18. Why Audi and Skoda ?
charles ,   petach tikva   (09.10.07)
Simply because their importer has won the tender . What does this tender include ? first of all there are conditions , size of the car , replacement , price and so on . It was the best price in regard to value . And those who had to make the choice , don't want to throw our money away . Now , don't forget that Germany is one of our great trade partners , the greatest off the EU .
19. What about washing machines, fridges, televisions
Talula ,   Israel   (09.10.07)
even to the smallest thing such as Kitchen utensils. German made products are in everyone's home. I agree that ministers do not need to be driving around in fancy German cars. They need a decent fancy car for visiting Heads of State only. So how can Shas be opposed to a German car? It's not the country, as always, it's the money. The more that is spent on fancy cars, the less they get.
20. As long as we are embargoing Germany
G ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.10.07)
Lets stop buying German submarines and German gears for Merkava tanks. Or we can just stop with the BS - there are more important issues at hand these days - focus on what really matters!
21. cars
baruch   (09.10.07)
the citreon c 6 is the best as it protects pedestrians is great in safeness and follows a frenchmen who resisted nazism
22. German
VoiceOfReason ,   Here&Now   (09.10.07)
German products in general should not be purchased. True their children are not guilty but we must never forget what their people did to ours. It does send out the wrong message. That our lives are cheap. Sorry but this time I agree with Shas.
23. To #19: 100% correct. - KRUPS is defenitely UNTOUCHABLE
Jack Klaber ,   R. Hasharon, Israel   (09.10.07)
I am wondering since seeing this manufacturer's products here in Israel why this could have happened. Is there no historian in this country who's red lights turned on and sirens started to whistle after seeing the name KRUPS for the first time many years ago appearing on the shelves here? My stomach turned over. Here in Israel products of that company which was the number 1 in helping the Nazis getting into power before anyone else knew what they were and before it was necessary to be a party member in order to stay in business (with success) and building the gas chambers? SHAME on all those people here in Israel who should know better!!!! Like the neo-nazis and other REAL NAZI stuff, KRUPS should be removed from the shelves and all merchandize being destroyed by the authorities as not welcome here. This based on the simple fact that the allied forces agreed to dismantle KRUPS till the last stone and erase the company from the earth because they WERE the Nazis. Whatever happened afterwards we did not have any influence but in our own country we can make our OWN rules and decide that Nazi merchandise is against the law to import, distribute and even own (except for musea and academic places for historical / educational purposes)
24. #4 Why can't torah observant jews be in the coalition??
masoud ,   n. africa   (09.10.07)
How is it anti-religious or anti-torah? Their religious credentials should be measure against their impact on torah education and how influential they're in connectiong otherwise disconected people to their rich jewish heritage!!! And at any rate a stable govt. is better for isrealis.
25. Jack Klaber
charles ,   petach tikva   (09.10.07)
We are not clean ? should we not defend ourselve ? Sweden neutral ? yes , but they were involved in trade with Germany . British radio lamps were bought by firms who had to work for the German army via Sweden .
26. Do shas members
charles ,   petach tikva   (09.10.07)
receive wiederguttmachung ? or reparations from Germany ? If they oppose German cars , let them also oppose this money It's the same for not shas anti's , tell Germany you don't want to receive aby Euro from them anymore . That was also the position of Menachem Begin , no reparations , no volkswagens .
27. drive "Egged" as i do and feel the pain of the people
ezrahit min hashura   (09.10.07)
28. NO "made in Germany" for Israel
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29. #4-5-6- germany---You are wrong
survived Aushwitz   (09.10.07)
Allow me to disagree To buy from GERMANY IS WRONG To finance their econimy, specially the car industry which used Jewish slavery in order to survive is WRONG to put it mildly Have some respect for those 6000000 dead at least , and for survivors descentands, which are you and me -if you don't have it for thyselves
30. Considering all those road fatalities.....
Ilan ,   Ariel   (09.10.07)
Nothing like sound engineering
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