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Rape on Arab primetime TV
Smadar Peri
Published: 20.09.07, 16:12
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1. Awakening of the Arab World
Rami ,   Nazareth, Israel   (09.20.07)
I hope these events signal an awakening of the Arab-Muslim society form the dark ages into the 21 century.
2. Word "Rape" does not exist in arabic
eliyahu   (09.20.07)
In relating to arabs, most left wing israelis refuse to acknowledge on any level the cultural differences. They assume that "peace" has a universally accepted meaning, that theft has a stigma attached, that rape is culturally unacceptable,that democracy is valued, that freedom is a positive goal. I am not at all saying that arab islamic culture is "bad". I am saying that left wing westernized israelis choose to see arabs as being the same and wanting the same things. Arabs should be recognized and understood before any dialog is attempted.
3. Saudi Arabia does not allow women to drive
(09.20.07)
The article wrongly stated that Saudi Arabia allows women to drive. It does not.
4. @ # 2 rape in arabic is said : "ightissab"
Nabil ,   casablanca morocco   (09.20.07)
There are also numerous words and expression which i will not tell here that means rape in arabic.Your ignorance is almost as bigger as your stupidity.
5. This is just the tip pf the iceberg
Obama ,   Washington DC   (09.21.07)
The truth is even more ghastly
6. to #2 you know about rape since the biggest rape (palestine)
rami   (09.21.07)
7. it is a timely issue
Roy Galut ,   Selah   (09.21.07)
Islam needs to pull back the curtian on thier culture and look seriously take a look at issues like this that is conveinantly being swept under the rug. tribal sharia law which is already austere is being used to coverup things like rape in order to protect the male perpitrator..... if islam wants the respect of the world it must quickly come to terms with this kind of open self examination
8. Is it rape if done by a prophet?
Ima Bleever ,   Anytown USA   (09.21.07)
About 1400 years ago, a worthless man knowingly sold his six year daughter into sexual slavery. The man who bought her waited three years before having sex with her. Though she was only NINE years old and he was in or near his forties, he dared to call this atrocity "marriage" in the eyes of the sinless, Most High God. Oh how the man must have wanted that tiny little, helpless creature. He paid handsomely for her. Imagine his restraint in waiting three years before having sex with her. (sarcasm) His name was Muhammed. Her name was Ayesha. Every Muslim knows the tale. Every Muslim bears his shame for they stand and do nothing to avenge her. All the people of Earth will soon know the story - for I am telling all I see. And still the men of the Haredi Jews dishonor THEIR mothers by forcing women to sit in the back of the bus (just like Muslims), so it becomes hypocritical of me to point and stare at Islam. Here is a tough quiz for the Middle East, including Israel... Fill in the blank: "Honor your father and your ______." How does making a woman sit in the back seat honor your mother? Couldn't YOU sit back there to keep distance from women? How does walking six steps ahead of your woman honor your mother? Couldn't you walk six steps behind her and keep distance from women? How does loving a "prophet" who had sex with a female child honor your mother? Was your mother a nine year old girl? Or was she an adult? Should not your father have acted like the prophet and "married" a female child, too? How does sheltering perverts and pedophilia honor your mother? How does acting like a woman's monthly cycle is an illness honor your mother? Didn't YOU come from that filthy area during even dirtier circumstances? How clean, therefore, can YOU be? Why aren't MEN ever sex slaves? Does this fact honor your mother? Ask her. How does killing this Christian to hide your shame honor your mother? Will your mother be proud to think you are too cowardly to answer me? Does not your Islam demand that you first try to convert me to Islam before fighting me? Yes it does. I read it. Too bad your hell-bound bombers didn't. And if your god hates Jews so much why does he keep making more? Is your god flawed? Is he stupid? Ask your mother. She might know. Never forget that this allah is not your first love. You have had too many to name. Their idols clutter every land in the Middle East. You can blow them up, but it's too late. I got pictures when I visited. And so did others. I will ask these questions again at the foot of God when we meet again on judgment day. Kill me or not, I will ask again. We will meet again. Moses and God will ask you the same questions if you fail to answer me. Have a better answer than, "bang".
9. #2
English guy ,   London, UK   (09.21.07)
What a piece of racist nonsense you wrote. "Rape" has no translation in Arabic? You are a total racist moron and shameless in broadcasting your ignorance. Nabil from Casablanca has provided you with the translation - not that you would be interested to know because it contradicts your pig-ignorant statement and undermines your racist crapola.
10. to no.4
the prophet ,   israel   (09.21.07)
don't "jump the gun" talking about ignorance and stupidity. it's obvious no.2 didn't literally mean what he said, it's absolutely prepostreous u telling him that this word exist. and FYI, the sentence u wrote should have been written the following "as BIG as..." soooooooo anyway, thank you for being the tempestuous blatant you are. it makes it easier for me to hate you.
11. to #8
kutuzov ,   new york   (09.22.07)
Agree with everything you said. Well done... only one thing to add: Pedophilia in islam is not only allowed but encouraged. Ayatollah Khomeini once said to the iranians that: your daughters should not see their first blood in hour house - meaning they should be married off before puberty. In afghanistan, most 2nd and 3rd graders are either married or already promised to someone (usually several times their age). The rape (literally) of innocence in islam is appalling. Another thing, lets not forget about honor killings - "honor" - i wonder if there is an arabic word for that.
12. Indeed, what does the word, or act, of 'rape'...............
Cameron ,   USA   (09.22.07)
imply in the Arab World?
13. a note
samia ,   erusalem   (09.22.07)
youm kippur is not special for jews as ramadan is not special for moslems .or iam wrong
14. Rami... if you want to preach you better tell the world
freedom ,   canada   (09.22.07)
about the christian cleansing in Bethlehem. The city should be evacuated and the christians should be allowed to return to their home city and the area turned into a city state under Israeli or UN rule.
15. # 10
Nabil ,   casablanca morocco   (09.22.07)
Hate is a mark of esteem and of fear. and i take it as a compliment. Because,while the gentleman ignores his enemies,smiles at them and walk his way,a stupid moron like you, only knows how to hate . But it looks like it is a common hobby and a national sport in israel. You all love to hate.Maybe is it because of the constant persecutions you have suffered from, during thousands of years.I will not feel offended then.Keepon hating me. I love to be hated by you.
16. to #s 2 and 10
maher   (09.21.07)
the 'prophet' said, and I quote: 'it makes it easier for me to hate you'. This is exactly what and who you are: somebody looking for pretexts, lies included, to ju8stify for yourself why you hate Arabs. Enough said.
17. English nut strikes again! (9)
Tahl ,   Israel   (09.22.07)
This British nut never misses an opportunity to criticise and chastise Israel, in the harshest words possible. And when the story shames the Arab world (rape in Arab society), the only thing left for him to do is to turn on Israeli commenters. It is one thing to provide a real informative retort, it is quite another to resort to curses and bad-mouthing ("racist nonsense", "total racist moron", "pig-ignorant statement", "racist crapola"). Even when Eliyahu of #2 specifically insisted that he was not saying anything to disparage Islamic culture. Maybe Eliyahu was wrong, it doesn't make him a racist. Had this story been about rape in Israeli society, rest assured English guy would have spun his comments against Israeli society. Clearly this nut is a bad case of an Israel-hater, a product of the biased, antisemetic, Arab-loving British media. Perhaps the reincarnation of Accessol, Rustum or Ellen Prescott?
18. #2 & 9
jason ,   jerusalem   (09.22.07)
first if his claim is wrong it is not racist - it is maybe an eye-catching way to make a good point, fair or not. But what i really want to point out is why arabs and others reserve their most vehement hate for israel - but their own press and public opinion? how long to live in fear of the bastards that control you? obviously when "year of the woman" in saudia arabia means they can drive, houston we have a problem. and let me say the sooner you or others really get to work liberating women in islamic society a lot of other dysfuntional issues will start to work themselves out since women in general are smarter than men if put to the task. fyi i am still in favor of traditional culture over those where women act like men or vice versa - that is just as dysfunctional.
19. re #2
Thinkpad ,   London, UK   (09.22.07)
it sounds like you have not met any arabs in your life. meet some arabs and get an education in life, values and civilisation.
20. a picture's worth a 1000 words
Stanley   (09.22.07)
why no picture of Yousra?
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