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Al-Dura's father: Israel's claims ridiculous
Ali Waked
Published: 02.10.07, 01:24
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1. source
(10.02.07)
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1991to_now_alaqsa_dura.php
2. what shull the world expect from bunch of criminals !
(10.02.07)
3. Where is the blood???
Dr. Jack ,   Canada   (10.02.07)
Look at the pictures on Arab websites and judge by yourself. There are deep holes in the concrete wall behind al-Dura and his father, surely made by high calibre bullets. Such bullets rip apart any body they pierce. According to the father, they were hit by 13 such bullets, in the stomach and other parts of their bodies over 45 minutes. In the last photo, however, after the kid was already dead, there is no blood to be seen and his shirt was still WHITE!! There was no blood on the ground either. Where is the blood after such an alleged shooting? Everything was a hoax, soon to be revealed.
4. Curious, but where's the corpse?
sk ,   USA   (10.02.07)
We do not even know that al-dura died, do we? In fact, that would have shed some light on the matter. Actually, I'm a bit surprised: I would have thought that the "Palestinians" would have shot the kid and the father with stolen Israeli arms (or those given to the "Palestinian" "security forces." But maybe they figured that no one would think to dispute the lies.
5. If they deny their occupation of Palestine, Dura not alone
g ,   USA   (10.02.07)
Israel has murdered more than 5000 Palestinians including 1000s of kids, women, and innocent men, since it murdered al Dura in front of the whole world to see the extent of Jewish terror in Palestine.
6. More "pallywood"!
Nora ,   Israel   (10.02.07)
7. This is nothing new. The whole word knew this WASN"T TRUE!!!
(10.02.07)
8. Why is the child shielding the father in the video
Mark ,   Houston, TX   (10.02.07)
Why is the child shielding the father in the video. I would have placed the child between myself and the concrete barrel to fully protect him. In the video image on the link in msg #1 the child is shielding the father. Very odd!
9. If there is nothing to hide, why not release the tape?
Shuki   (10.02.07)
10. #5-if you're going to make it up, LIE BIG
GZLives   (10.02.07)
Since the last intifada the IDF has killed less then 900 Palestinians. And by the way Mr g (duhhh), the Palestinians killed about 600 of their own during the same time. SO ... Read a book before you come here and make an ass out of yourself
11. #8, that's how the pals wrote it in the script!
Chatich   (10.02.07)
12. There is a major problem with the IDF
David L.   (10.02.07)
EACH time that a Palestinian civilian get killed, the IDF has a "perfect justification". In fact, the IDF never aknowledge that they kill civilians. Since over 4000 of these were killed over the past 6 years, there is like a problem here. Even if some (even if MOST) of these deaths can be justified, it would be about time to stop denying everything. Remember that 12-years-old girl in Rafah? "Captain R" was cleared after it was revealed that 2 of is soldiers had lied against him. That's perfectly fine. But that little girl still had 15 bullets in her body, and nobody has been held accountable. This is only one example among many. Blowing up 8 houses to kill Salah Shahade, killing 14 people, including 9 children in their sleep? Don't tell me the IDF did not know exactly what would happen when they dropped the bomb. The killing of Sheik Yassin? When Sharon ordered the hit, while seeing in real-time video what was about to happen to the crowd assembled at the mosque, he knowingly condemned to death 9 innocent bystanders who were just going for morning prayers. And the list is long. I'm not suggesting th IDF fire intentionaly at children or civilians. They just get killed, somehow. It seems that the least they owe them is an appology.
13. They Had Better Be Sure!!
David ,   Los Angeles   (10.02.07)
If the Israeli govt, having originally apologized for the supposed shooting, is now going to claim the whole thing was fabricated and is a "modern-day blood libel" noch, they had better be damn sure!
14. #12
mark ,   ca   (10.02.07)
What about holding palestinians acountable for killing Israeli civilians? Or this is not relevant??
15. Might as well...
Nattsmyg ,   Earth   (10.02.07)
deem every other cold blooded murder a "hoax" as well. It's clear that al-dura was killed.
16. David; well said
(10.02.07)
17. Difference Between Palestinians & Israelis
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (10.02.07)
When a Palestinian child is killed (or allegedly killed) by the IDF, the Israelis feel a tremendous amount of pain and go to great lengths to debate and investigate. When a bus full of Israeli children are intentionally slaughtered by Palestinians, the Palestinians happily take credit, celebrate, dance around and give out candy.
18. Deaths happening right now.
Peter Morris ,   New Zealand   (10.02.07)
From the UN Daily Press conference... "BAN KI-MOON CONCERNED BY HUMANITARIAN SITUATION IN GAZA: Asked about reports that Palestinians are dying because of the closure of the crossing points in Gaza, the Spokeswoman said that the Secretary-General had repeatedly drawn attention to the humanitarian situation in Gaza." Not a great advertisement for the "State" of Israel. Come to think of it the advertisement hasn't been great for 60 years.
19. Nattsmyg, it is neither clear that al-dura was killed...
AK   (10.02.07)
nor is it clear that the israeli soldiers killed him. all available evidence points to a hoax. enough of pallywood. we're not buying this crap anymore.
20. Al-Dura's claims about Israel's claims are ridiculous!
Joe ,   Los Angeles, CA   (10.02.07)
The Palestinian claims of invented myths and mythology are simultaneously ridiculous and irritating. All the inquiries proved without a shadow of a doubt that the bullets were Russian bullets. It has already been said that the IDF didn't use that type of ammunition. The Palestinians try time and time again to deny their responsibility for the incident because they can't deal with criticism against them. They also threatened the French television station broadcasting the footage with abducting of all their reporters and photographers if they showed the entire footage, but anyone who is interested in investigating the truth can just take the tape and watch it.
21. 18 A lost leftist soul with no real understanding of the
freedom ,   canada   (10.02.07)
situation. The laughable left is exactly that, LAUGHABLE. Come back when you get your facts right. Hows the Sudan doing? Tell us about that. The best example of state sponsored terror. Even thats on the news. You want a cause go to the Sudan, thats a real cause.
22. David L, save your energy in writing drivel
Jake   (10.02.07)
Every farce, every lie, every myth, every canard, every blood libel against Israel will be addressed and debunked and smashed...each and every one will fail in the end. It is only a matter of time. There is no point in your trying to defend that which, with time, will be exposed for the falsehood that it is. You only reveal yourself as a gullible believer of, or willing collaborator with, LIES.
23. The Purpose of al Durah Myth is self- explainatory
ben ,   singapore   (10.02.07)
....Durah was caught in a cross fire, between the terrorist Hamas and the Lawful IDF. This is the case, like many Israeli caught in the mallice of suicide bombings and public places bombing. Al Durah is a staged drama of the terrorist. The whole pupose of the insident is to bring disrepute to the IDF and an attempt to get international support against Israel. Old tactic many new strategy of the terrorist. France fell for such staged drama.Israeli conduct in apologising for the insident was an act of being sympathatic but in NO WAY an ADMISSION OF GUILT. The rule that an admission of guilt that it amounts to a self- voluntary confessiion Not the RULE HERE. Because the addmission should come from who ever held the m 16 on that day. Expert opinion to say that bullets orioginated from the israeli post is ONE Evidence but Such Evidence is not CONCLUSIVE because CircUMstancial Evidence is not CONCLUSIVE to prove GUILT. IT is not that easy. While my sympathay is with that person in the Photos as highlighted here in the YEnet.- well it dosent prove anything INTENTIONAL. How can there be an INTENTION when the spot / scene of event is a war ton zone. The whole insident was sparked by terrorist military aggression against the lawfull military IDF who has all the while been doing the lawful duty to protect her home land - this is a national security issue.As such the Al Dura is a libel against Israel.Clearly a perpertrated staged libel and a blood libel.The whole myth is tained and missioned by anti-semitism. I am sorry dont mean to be insensitive to the hearts and souls of the injured but most of the time TRUTH is PAINFUL. My humble advice to the IDF is NOT TO LET these KIND OF LIBELs to affect their righful legal Duty to defend Israel. Also beawre bo alert there are many more myth being fabricated with the ARAB Money. And mnay jounalist will be bought to created such myth of anti- semitism. Thats all !, without apology ben singapore
24. we have to show more respect for the deaths
rafael ,   miami,fl   (10.02.07)
Even if palestinians or french fabricated this video, there is a small palestinian children who died as a consequence of a conflict. We, as jews have to show more respect for this fact, and avoid entering the paranoia of our enemies ( kind of 911 wasn't an arab attack...) I personally suffer still today from the image independently of whoever killed the child and wish that our politicians avoid this discussion or at least start the discussion with a reference to the horrible loss for this father and family. Our love for life is what differentiate usfrom other nations, let's proove it!!
25. Arab palestinian snipers killed this boy and father
D ,   Israel   (10.02.07)
26. Another source
d ,   Israel   (10.02.07)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzsCBFhCsyY
27. Bogus political excuses
Ima Bleever ,   Anytown USA   (10.02.07)
Don't let people continue lying about this or ANY other issue. ANY video, however long or boring, can be copied RAW and UNEDITED to ANY website in its entirety. Don't let any government or media outlet B.S. you any longer. If that damn video isn't already up to a website it's because BOTH sides fear what it says. Thus, both know they are to blame. The Israelis are to blame for not having stronger forts. They were clearly surrounded. But they should expect this. Why were the forts of the Middle Ages better places to hide than modern Israeli military outposts? A simple stone structure with arrow slits would have provided an Israeli sniper casual ease to line up any shot in perfect safety. Then, he would not have been rushed into shooting a kid - if indeed the Israelis shot him. The father is to blame for not sheltering his son and possibly for walking him TOWARDS gunfire. Look at their posture. The father is hiding in a sandwich made of boy and stone bread. It should have been the boy on the inside between father and stone. Despicable coward. The Arabs are to blame for not stopping their aggression, waving a white flag, a t-shirt, any damn thing, until they got that boy to safety. They wanted to film "those horrible apes and pigs" killing a boy. Someone pointed out that the father is looking at the ARAB cameraman for help and earlier said that his boy was shot in the back though the Israelis were in front. This could be for multiple reasons. Arabs are again to blame for promoting the lie that you go to heaven only in battle. This is very Viking and very untrue. Could this be why the boy's father later recants and blames the Israelis for his boy's BACK WOUNDS? Any raw video that will end dispute SHOULD be posted and a link given here. Otherwise, Ynet shares in your guilt as well, assuming you informed them what URL to click. Be sure to keep the video unedited and if it had a timer running, be sure no time gets chopped off or I will know you are lying. Time is on the side of the teller of truth. If you have to lie to get your point across, then you and your cause suck, and YOU are also to blame for that little boy's death. I am not fooled. And I have lips to tell others who ARE fooled. Also tell your cowardly gunmen to stop hiding amongst women and children so we and the Israelis won't kill any more of them. Then we'll easily pick off your gunmen. If they were not cowards, they would be easy targets and this would be a non-issue.
28. See the raw footage
Jesse ,   Chicago   (10.02.07)
http://www.seconddraft.org/selections.php?theme=aldurah_raw Apparently the camera guy screams "He's dead", but then the boy looks up. Then after "he is shot", he looks up but then he goes back to his pose. No blood stains the next day. Pallywood at its finest! Look at the consequences!
29. Irresponsible, Sensationalist & Anti-Israel Ynet Headline
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (10.02.07)
There were many other ways to write a far more responsible and truthful headline.
30. Here is the scoop
David Rutstein ,   Jerusalem   (10.02.07)
For those interested. The physicist Nachum Shachaf is the Israeli who has been yelling high and wide for 7 years to expose the truth. Nachum is somewhat famous here as a criminologist. Nachum is also somewhat well known as Dalia Rabin's personal investigator into her father's death. I suppose the Israeli authorities really want Nachum's thoughts to not be known.
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