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Ramon hints division of Jerusalem to be discussed in Annapolis
Atilla Somfalvi
Published: 07.10.07, 17:47
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31. Ali (13) channels rashid!
sk ,   USA   (10.07.07)
No, Ali, I won't trust you or believe you. There will be no peace for Israel until every Arab Muslim on the land of Eretz Israel has gone and Jews have spread out over the entirety of Judea, Samaria, and Aza. You are a partner in jihad, and you are pretending otherwise. Few people are fooled anymore.
32. # 29 :Steve from US
(10.07.07)
Contrary to conventional wisdom, one does not make peace with ones enemy but with ones friend?????????? i get it, that was s joke right? perhaps you meant to say: Contrary to "wisdom period", do your self a favor, open the dictionary and look up the word "Friend" why the hell would one NEEEEEEED to make peace with a FRIEND they don’t come any dumber then you, do they now, Steve from the US?
33. Ramon is supposed to be sitting in JAIL
(10.07.07)
34. The only dividing We need is for a new government
jason white ,   afula,israel   (10.07.07)
to try these thugs in the present knesset.Then to divide their heads from their bodies. Where is the opposition to these traitors? Why do we sit silently and let these mad dogs give away our capital? Why do the follow the orders of hajj bush and the fool rice. Too bad the judge did not jail ramon after his trial. That judge could have saved us. When will olmert's trials begin? Are the cops so mentally slow as to take forever. Anyone else would be in jail by now.
35. #32: You are dead wrong Mr. or Mrs., whatever you are.
Steve ,   US   (10.07.07)
We keep hearing this same silly mantra -- that you apparently embrace -- from the far left: "One doesn't make peace with your friends. You make peace with your enemies." How dumb does it get #32? "Stupid is as stupid does." You have absolutely no historical basis for your silly faith. Give us something from Israel's ancient history. Make your case. Where is it? Produce your evidence #32; what ever your name is. Why do you hide behind anonymity anyway? Put your first name out here for us. What are you afraid of? Israel has nothing to negotiate with her enemies. PERIOD. Nada. The land is ours. If they don't like it, let them pray to Allah for delivery at the hands of the Jews. Where was Allah in the 1967 Six Day war of Arab aggression? Why didn't Allah deliver the Jews into the hands of her enemies in 1967? If Olmert has his way, God might deliver the Jews into the hands of her enemies. That is why we are out here warning our fellow Jews. Obviously you are a lost cause #32! As I wrote, America made her peace with Germany and Japan after she thoroughly crushed them. It was total war / unconditional surrender. When Israel utterly crushes her enemies then we can offer them something. We will offer them "peace." That's all. So long as they act like human beings instead of savages then we will offer them peace. No land. Nothing, but peace. Do you understand #32? Do yourself a favor, open up your dictionary and look up the word "enemy." What part of enemy, dedicated to your annihilation, do you not understand #32?
36. NOTHING TO DISCUSS, JERUSALEM BELONG TO ISRAEL
David P. ,   Central Coast, USA   (10.07.07)
37. AND WHY IS THE WALL 'HOLY'?
Adam ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.07.07)
The Western Wall is not holy. It is a wall built in Herodian times. The Temple Mount is the holiest site to Judaism. Muslims began to give it a little importance about 1-200 yrs after they conquered it which rose this century. Wonder why.
38. Are we crazy??
Yoel ,   Haifa   (10.07.07)
The same people who showed happiness when Berlin wall was destroyed, and condemned Israel for buildind our Fence... Now they will encourage us to build a new wall to divide Jerusalem?? It's time to wake-up and ask someone else to head our State...
39. Third Indifada will follow division of Jerusalem
Raymond from DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (10.07.07)
Look at it two ways: First, dividing Jerusalem as proposed leaves it indefensible. With no natural boundaries, and sovereignty divided by neighborhoods, terrorists will have a field day. Second, Jerusalem is a critical element in jihadist ideology. If control of Jerusalem, even in part, is reacquired either through diplomatic concession or struggle, it will only confirm the validity of that ideology. Rather than bring peace, such a division could unleash what Dore Gold in his newly released "Battle for Jerusalem" calls a "jihadist tsunami".
40. Israeli govt should be in prison for treason
A   (10.08.07)
How much are those traitors paid to betray their country?
41. then hold a REFERENDUM you *****traitor
jack bauer   (10.08.07)
42. @ Ali , you are right my friend , but
nabil ,   casablanca Morroco   (10.08.07)
you are doing a big mistake here.Who on earth told you that Israel wants peace? if you think that , then you are living in another planet.
43. quisling-swine secures for self scorn of history, Jewish ppl
dante ,   uk   (10.08.07)
this ugly and corrupt individual is incapable of achieving anything of value. instead, he seeks to surrender the hard-won and courageous achievements of better men and, in doing that, to advance his personal interests. WHAT HE WILL DO IS EARN THE EVERLASTING SCORN OF HISTORY, THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND DECENT PEOPLE EVERYWHERE. even the people to whom he would have Israel surrender regard him as a loathesome and contemptible piece of garbage.
44. ISLAM'S WAR on G-D & WAR on the HOLY Places of G-D
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.08.07)
There NEVER was an Arab country of Palestine. Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. In the 1948 Islamic invasion and illegal occupation of the Jewish Holy Land, Jordan destroyed 58 sacred synagogues in Jerusalem in violent opposition to G-D. Since 1996, Rachel's Tomb, near Bethlehem, has been attacked by Muslim snipers, bombs and Molotov cocktails. In October 2000, Muslims torched and destroyed the ancient synagogue in Jericho. In 2005, in intense hate for G-D, Muslim mobs desecrated and destroyed sacred Gaza synagogues . Joseph is the beloved Bible hero of Jews and Christians. Islamics murdered IDF soldiers at Joseph's Tomb. Muslim mobs burned Bibles and Jewish Prayer Books that gave praise and glory to the One Great G-D and destroyed the Tomb. In the Islamic invasion and filthy desecration of Jesus Christ' birthplace, Church of Nativity, Bibles were torn up for toilet Paper. Inscribed in the Bible are the Laws G-D gave to Moses; the Laws our Western civilization is founded on: Exodus 20: "You shall not murder" "You shall not commit adultery" "You shall not steal" "You shall not bear false witness" Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death" Leviticus 24:17 "If a man takes the life of any human being, he shall surely be put to death" Global Islamists seek the total destruction of civilization. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Jewish Bible, not once in the Koran. At the time of Mohammad's death, there was not a single mosque in Jerusalem. G-D designated the Temple Mount to Jews for worship and prayer. "For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples." Isaiah 56:7. Muslims on the Temple Mount repeatedly engage in massive rock throwing at Jews, transforming the Temple Mount, the HOLIEST place on earth into a place of violence! World-wide street protests are urgently required to stop Islam's massive vandalism and DESTRUCTION of G-D's Temple Mount: http://www.har-habayt.org/ The OFFENSE to G-D is enormous! The Temple Mount must be returned to its Jewish owners immediately! STOP Inciting Children to Murder ! http://www.teachkidspeace.com/flash.php Palestinian Authority society are taught murdering Jews is the highest goal in life and attains paradise: http://www.pmw.org.il/AFD.html http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse
45. Islam
(10.08.07)
Islam's WAR On G-D and WAR on those who OBEY G-D Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Jewish Scriptures, not once in the Koran. Do Islamists not fear Master of the Universe, the G-D of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who gave the Promised Land to Jews? Exodus 9:1 Thus says the L-RD, the G-d of the Hebrews, "Let My people go, that they may serve Me" Exodus 5:2 But Pharaoh said, "Who is the L-RD that I should obey His voice" On March 27, 2002, at the Park Hotel in Netanya, terrorists targeted for murder Jews honoring and thanking G-D for His great mercy: Exodus 12:14 “you shall celebrate it as a feast to the L-RD” Exodus 12:42 “It is a night to be observed for the L-RD for having brought them out from the land of Egypt; this night is for the L-RD, to be observed by all the sons of Israel throughout their generations.” The Muslim human bomb killer murdered 30 Israelis as Jews obeyed G-D, taking part in the Passover meal. 140 Jewish innocents were injured. The bomb was filled with nails and other metal pieces to maximize the suffering of survivors. On August 19, 2003, terrorists targeted for murder Jews who worship Israel's wonderful G-D - Creator of the Universe. The Muslim human bomb killer blew himself up on the bus of Jews returning from prayer at the Western wall. The Temple Mount, the holiest place on earth, is Judaism's holiest site. The gruesome attack-the bomb packed with metal pieces, killed 22 Jews and injured 134, many seriously. The Palestinian Authority hailed as heroes the terrorists who brutally murdered defenseless 8 months pregnant Jewish Gaza mother, Tali Hatuel, and four little daughters in Gush Katif in May 2004. Deliberately, and massively breaking G-D's law given to Moses: "YOU SHALL NOT MURDER" the Palestinian Authority teach through their mosques, media, summer camps, and public education system, that murdering Jews is a religious obligation. Human bomb killers of Jewish innocents are revered and considered heroes by PA Muslims. Effigies of burning buses are features of PA school pageants and summer camps. Schools, streets and sports teams are named after suicide bombers. Broadcast from Gaza mosque, Oct 13 2000, Dr. Ahmad Abu Halabiya, on Palestinian Authority TV (transcribed by Memri): "Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them. Wherever you are, kill those Jews and those Americans who are like them..." STOP Inciting Children to Murder ! http://www.teachkidspeace.com/flash.php http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse RETURN CONTROL of TEMPLE MOUNT to JEWS NOW! "For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples." Isaiah 56:7 World-wide street protests are urgently required to STOP Islam's vandalism and archaeological destruction of G-D's Temple Mount, the HOLIEST place on earth: http://www.har-habayt.org/
46. ISLAM'S WAR on G-D & WAR on those who OBEY G-D
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.08.07)
Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Jewish Scriptures, not once in the Koran. Do Islamists not fear Master of the Universe, the G-D of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who gave the Promised Land to Jews? Exodus 9:1 Thus says the L-RD, the G-d of the Hebrews, "Let My people go, that they may serve Me" Exodus 5:2 But Pharaoh said, "Who is the L-RD that I should obey His voice" On March 27, 2002, at the Park Hotel in Netanya, terrorists targeted for murder Jews honoring and thanking G-D for His great mercy: Exodus 12:14 “you shall celebrate it as a feast to the L-RD” Exodus 12:42 “It is a night to be observed for the L-RD for having brought them out from the land of Egypt; this night is for the L-RD, to be observed by all the sons of Israel throughout their generations.” The Muslim human bomb killer murdered 30 Israelis as Jews obeyed G-D, taking part in the Passover meal. 140 Jewish innocents were injured. The bomb was filled with nails and other metal pieces to maximize the suffering of survivors. On August 19, 2003, terrorists targeted for murder Jews who worship Israel's wonderful G-D - Creator of the Universe. The Muslim human bomb killer blew himself up on the bus of Jews returning from prayer at the Western wall. The Temple Mount, the holiest place on earth, is Judaism's holiest site. The gruesome attack-the bomb packed with metal pieces, killed 22 Jews and injured 134, many seriously. The Palestinian Authority hailed as heroes the terrorists who brutally murdered defenseless 8 months pregnant Jewish Gaza mother, Tali Hatuel, and four little daughters in Gush Katif in May 2004. Deliberately, and massively breaking G-D's law given to Moses: "YOU SHALL NOT MURDER" the Palestinian Authority teach through their mosques, media, summer camps, and public education system, that murdering Jews is a religious obligation. Human bomb killers of Jewish innocents are revered and considered heroes by PA Muslims. Effigies of burning buses are features of PA school pageants and summer camps. Schools, streets and sports teams are named after suicide bombers. Broadcast from Gaza mosque, Oct 13 2000, Dr. Ahmad Abu Halabiya, on Palestinian Authority TV (transcribed by Memri): "Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them. Wherever you are, kill those Jews and those Americans who are like them..." STOP Inciting Children to Murder ! http://www.teachkidspeace.com/flash.php http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse RETURN CONTROL of TEMPLE MOUNT to JEWS NOW! "For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples." Isaiah 56:7 World-wide street protests are urgently required to STOP Islam's vandalism and archaeological destruction of G-D's Temple Mount, the HOLIEST place on earth: http://www.har-habayt.org/
47. What is the solution?
Ari ,   Jerusalem   (10.08.07)
We sure do not want to devide Jerusalem, but we also want to live in peace so what should we do? We also know that keeping the current status qou won't lead to any success so what is the solution?
48. Insanity!!
Christy ,   Boston, US   (10.08.07)
Can't believe there are US & Israeli leaders actually talking about dividing Jerusalem! They've all gone insane. I worry about what disaster may befall the US for even taking part in such nonsense. There's a book, whose title escapes me, that correlates US disasters with US involvement in pressuring - encouraging Israel to give up land. Whatever have the Palis. done to prove they can be trusted?! Again & again Israel shows good faith & gives up land & prisoners. Whatever Israel gives, it's never enough. The Palis. want Israel GONE. That's the only thing that will satisfy them. They have stated this more than once and even written it into their charters. It's time the world takes the Palis. seriously & stops the fantasy of believing the Palis. want anything less than Israel's destruction. How about US & Israeli led talks looking into carving out a piece of land from Egypt, Jordan or Saudi Arabia for a Palis. homeland? Whatever piece of land is chosen, make it far away from Israel.
49. #5 ali
(10.08.07)
how come, ali, you didn't ask for apalestinian state between 1948 and 1967???
50. 17
Igor ,   Munich, Germany   (10.08.07)
dude, you´re talking bullcrap. nobody occupies the land, whether the Palestinian nation is a myth or not doesn´t matter. The people have been living there for centuries and it´s totally stupid to review the history and claim territory on any historical basis. In that case Russia can claim Crimea, large parts of Ukraine and Germany can claim parts of Poland and so on and so on. You have to look at it from today´s point of view. ...... to this article in general. what about a natinonalwide referendum about the status of Jerusalem like in a real democractic country..
51. 32. # 29 :Steve from US
(10.08.07)
my name, how about bill, or maybe you would prefer john, Mohammed perhaps. why does ones name impact an argument? But i think i know why you want a name. I’m afraid with your kind of thinking your beloved israel will not last 60 more years. empires have fallen, and ur saying little old israel with all that arrogance in your post has a chance? you are seen as an alien body in a sea of Arabs. fight on as long as you can, see how long you can keep it up.
52. Linda #44, #46 Excellent Treatise
Brod ,   USA   (10.08.07)
Linda's excellent treatises are a Must Read.
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