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WJC chief meets with pope
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Published: 08.10.07, 11:49
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1. Lauder meets Pope BRING A TON OF PERFUME TO COVER THE STENCH
Petra ,   USA   (10.08.07)
2. #1
Invicta ,   Europa   (10.08.07)
why would he need perfume? What stench is there to cover? Please inform .
3. Invicta Eurpoa If you don't get it, I can't explain
Petra ,   USA   (10.08.07)
4. WJC represents Jews?
marya ,   sacramento,USA   (10.08.07)
I couldn't think of a more unrepresentative representative - We had those kinds of "representatives" in Germany in WWII - G-d help us!
5. #3
Invicta ,   Europa   (10.08.07)
'If you don't get it I can't explain'. No I don't get it. Why does the Pope stench? Doesn't he wash?
6. what
what ,   usa   (10.08.07)
what are you talking about?
7. #5--- I smell him from here!
ER ,   Canada   (10.08.07)
8. Return Jewish Property!
ER ,   Canada   (10.08.07)
9. Nu... what did the golekh said?
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (10.09.07)
10. #8
Invicta ,   Europa   (10.09.07)
So the Swiss have got your money, the Germans have got your art and the Pope has your 'property'. Really, what property is that then? Why are you all so negative and full of recrimination?
11. Invicta
Petra ,   USA   (10.09.07)
Excuse me, not to be rude but, how old are you? Do you know anything of Jewish history or culture? Your posts seem empty and ignorant. Perhaps you should read up, there are MANY historical efforts to destroy the Jews. Lets see if I can remember enough to trigger anything near an informed response from you. Ever hear of " The Holy wars?". The reformation? The Nazi holocaust? The catholic church( as well as others) tried over and over to destroy the Jews as are the Muslims. You have a computer do a search and read for a while. The 'church' is why America is a protestant nation( was and is a majority) America is one of the few nations in the world to bless the Jews and are therefore blessed according to Genesis 12:3, Here, in America, they are allowed to worship in peace. The 'church' gladly murdered Jews as they were convinced no Jews were worth heaven ( except their version of who and what Jesus was.) Europe gladly gave Hitler the Jews for extermination while " The church'"remained silent. Now, any more questions? Have you had ANY history lessons? Are you living in an Arab nation? If you're going to continue reading ISRAELI news, become a bit more educated, it helps in offering up an opinion. Have a nice day, kiddo.
12. #11
Invicta ,   Europa   (10.09.07)
No need to patronise. Its borish. What property does the Pope have? You didn't answer my question. I think the US may have more hispanic catholics than protestants. And if anything the reason the US is protestant is because of the English, Dutch and German settlers. Now the Church didn't do anything about the holocaust you say. Like what? Did the Church have an airforce or an Army. The US was well aware of the location of Birkenau but didn't do anything about it. Have you ever asked why? They were in a far better position to bomb the railways than the Pope was. The Reformation. What has that to do with the persecution of Jews exactly? Your opinion is the same old, same old. just like you. Oldie. p.s Don't beleive everything you read on a computer.
13. # 8 asked for Israeli property back
Petra ,   USA   (10.09.07)
Not I. I forgot to mention the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades. Yes, America could have done more however, she was busy in the midst of a war. Seems America is always wrong according to the likes of dummies like you. Thanks I don't believe all I read on the computer, but, I had pity on you and your ignorance. When You ask such ignorant questions it makes one wonder why you bother? Just get more educated before you make such inane quiries. A for my age, being a live old Jew beats being an ignorant ( brainwashed?)kid without knowledge or facts. What can we expect from a kid from ' Europa?' Don't expect another answer from me, it is not my job to educate dummies. They have BOOKS if you are allowed to read them, otherwise, wallow in stupidity. It becomes you. Are the anti Jewish talk backs full or, are you too ignorant for them as well? Dumb shi'ite.
14. What are you talking about? Whats your question?
Petra ,   USA   (10.09.07)
15. ~#13
Invicta ,   Europa   (10.09.07)
Gosh, what a 'clever' pun at the end! Wish I could have thought of that one! The problem with people like you is that when you don't like a discussion you resort to vitriol and insult. This is to cover up your own lack of discourse skills. You may disagree with my opinion - which is of course fine - but to insult me personally is a cop - out. Now you that the US was in the midst of war. So where exactly was the vatican? Only in the middle of a city that was occupied by Germany actually. I don't see what you expected the Pope to have done that couldn't have been done by the (unoccupied) US or Russian Armies / airforce, who after all had all the intelligence and means of actually helping. Please recommend some books I should read. And you suggest that I am anti Jewish. Then what exactly is your comment about the 'Pope' and 'stench' supposed to be? A benign, friendly comment on a church leader? You can't call me a bigot without accepting your own bigotry. You should have worked all this out by your age. And you still haven't explained what exactly the Reformation had to do with the persecution of Jews?
16. #12
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (10.09.07)
If I could guess - that must be the property from the Temple - including utencils and other objects looted during the destruction of Jerusalem by Romans. There were number of leads re. this issue - as such: those items were stored in the vaults of Vatican; old hand written manuscripts, etc..
17. #16
Invicta ,   Europa   (10.09.07)
You could be right there. The Romans certainly looted during the sacking of Jerusalem. But that's not much reason to show such indignation towards the Pope is it. Especially as Italy is the most looted country in the world. The whole world has been looted or has looted.
18. Does Mr. Lauder know he is consulting with the leader of a
Rivkah   (10.09.07)
church who wants Saturday Sabbath keepers dead? The books, "The Great Controversy" and "codex Magica" go into detail on the magical arts the Roman Catholic church uses and the form priests sign agreeing to KILL enemies of the church if instructed to do so or they choose to do so. I hope Mr. Lauder did not eat or drink anything when with the Pope. Even the air one breathes should be suspect and a filter should be worn around the neck in the presence of so great an evil person who was not repented of re-instituting the prayer that calls for the conversion of Jews, as if the covenant with Moses is not everlasting as the covenant with Jesus is.
19. Jewish property stolen by the Roman Catholic Church was not
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returned to the original owners or their descendants, BUT to victims of church member sexual abuse in the form of lawsuits.
20. conversion prayer, so what?
so ,   nyc   (10.09.07)
one need look only at the surface of our own siddur to know that we should learn when to keep our mouths shut. vlamalshinim? sheheim misthachavim? and the just the surface
21. #17
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (10.10.07)
Indignation towards Pope - may have something to do with the role which Catholich church played in prosecution of Jewish people throughout history. To my info - non of the Popes (until J-Paul II) spoke up against it. So much for moral authority... Inquisition was a Catholic invention. But that aside - who knows if he smells or not? My guess - if you are are a stinker- you are one - no matter what your background is... As for being looted - each people / nation are responsible for their own doings. Certainly - we didn't loot anyone. (Aside - what was taken from Egypt for 210 years of slavery)
22. 21 Arthur: There are BINARY WEAPONS that use the air and
Rivkah   (10.10.07)
water to cause an effect. If Mr. Lauder breathes in the air with a binary weapon in it that is aerosolized, he will feel no ill effects unless he unknowingly drinks or eats the other part of the binary weapon. Putting something into the air can trigger what has already been put into the food or water, for example. Colonel Stanislav Lunev talked about that since he defected from Russia and is the highest ranking KGB to do so. One of the binary weapons to be used on America is to spray the skies with one aspect (chem-trails) of the binary weapon so that people gradually breathe in the toxic substance and have it in their bodies stored in fat cells, for example. When the Spetznatz prepositioned troops strike the cities, the water supply will be poisoned with the other half of the binary weapon. Ilness such as nausea or death is the result in people who have the breathed in toxin in their bodies. 24 water wells east of Reno, Nevada, and in Fallon, Nevada were poisoned with Polonium-210 and the milk from nearby dairies had to be dumped. I believe that was a biological warfare attack. An accidental binary weapons attack on the American troops in Iraq and elsewhere is sodas with aspartame that have gotten hot in the sun at some point before ingested. That combined with nitrates in hotdogs results in a brain tumor causing substance. Formaldehyde used in preserving corpses is one of the chemicals formed. There are a lot of binary weapons and I fear for Mr. Lauder if precautions for his safety were not taken since the Roman Catholics have repeatedly tried to kill me and I am not rich or famous, only a critic of the false doctrine. They tried to poison me and then were behind false charges against me and then most recently, some Roman Catholics sabotaged the brakes on a car I loaned them when theirs burned up. When the car was returned after they bought a new one, I took it to a mechanic to check it out. The clips on the brake hoses had been removed with over $500. other damage to the brakes. They are sneaky. Even the ones you think are your friends, are not, if told to attack you by a higher authority in the church.
23. #21
invicta ,   Europa   (10.10.07)
So this Pope is responsible for 2 thousand years of history is he? And this meeting is a waste of time because all Catholics are murderers and persecuters? Why not be positive. Do you hold all Americans responsible for slavery? Or all Germans responsible for Nazism? Move on from the past.
24. Maybe the pope should clean his own house
Petra ,   USA   (10.10.07)
Let's see, how many millions of dollars have been paid out to victims of pedophilia ? How many bank scandals due to the Vaticans 'cardinals' theft and the Mafias help? Two I can think of in recent history. No wonder this 'religion' is morally and financially bankrupt, and their congregation reduced to third world countries The Spanish inquistion murdered 800,00 Jews with the Vaticans approval. It wasn't enough for them. If America hadn't stopped this practice of 'church and state' we Americans would be subject to these perpetual crimes against humanity. Personally, I have nothing against catholics, good people just terribly mislead due to the brain washing of this once european monoply on " faith". According to bible study, the popes miter " vicarius Filii Dei' in roman numerals add up to 666. Explains everything. Jews remember well never forget, this is the enemy. This pope is a former nazi youth member. Oy gavalt! The pope in charge at the time of the holocaust was another ally of the nazis. He was made a saint by the church. Amazing, criminals with 'sainthood'. Only the vat i can can make up this script.
25. Meeting with the Antichrist
Brod ,   USA   (10.10.07)
WJC leaders should NOT be meeting with the Antichrist whose church invented Antisemitism and was responsible for the Inquisitions, Crusades, the 1260 years of persecutions of Christians and Jews during the Dark Ages, and the Holocaust. Read "The Papacy" by J. A. Wylie, "Romanism and the Reformation" by H. Grattan Guinness, and "The Vatican Holocaust" by Avro Manhattan. The following websites are a Must See: www.reformation.org/holocaus.html www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/manhattan-vatican.html
26. Invicta read #25 books for you to read
Petra ,   USA   (10.10.07)
27. #24, 25
Invicta ,   Europa   (10.10.07)
I think you have both been reading too much 'da Vinci Code' with all your conspiracy theories. Isn't it a bit of a myth regarding years and years of murders and persecution and brainwashing? Bit like the old myths that Jews drink children's blood or that Jews killed Jesus. There are no theocracies in Europe either by the way. The 'Vatican Holocaust' is complete rubbish. How is the vatican responsible for the Holcaust!?
28. Meeting with the anti christ Brod.THANKS
Petra ,   USA   (10.10.07)
Thanks my articulate friend. Thanks for the books you referenced. We all need to know the face of the enemy especially since evil is alive and well in the vat ican. ( and when wasn't it?) Rome tried to destroy all of Israel and rome fell like a rock. Rome built the coliseum with the gold taken from Solomons temple. Their newer ally, Islam, helps perpetuate more falsehoods by trying to deny Jews a homeland. Both will end up on the pile of trash of historical blunders. You can't prop up an ism by falsehoods. But, hey they still keep trying. My daughter gave me an old vulgate bible, amazing how many words were changed to fool their followers.Including the commandments! Even the idols they bow down to were once Greek inventions, Mars, Jupiter, Mercury, just renamed as 'saints' and still they bow down. Two 'religions' who hate Jews, each destined to die. Only the Torah teaches real truth. All present day prophecy is given freely and, it came from Jews. G-d never rewote the Torah. It is perfection for all. Man with evil hearts try to rewrite their versions of some comic book ideaologies. Our G-d of Israel laughs at them. So do we.
29. #26
Invicta ,   Europa   (10.10.07)
No, I want you to recommend me something. Let's see if you can. Please include publisher and ISBN number in your suggestions.
30. #23
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (10.10.07)
You're putting words in my mouth - I never said THIS Pope is responsible for 2,000 years of persecution - but at the same token you failed to mention that he was a part of Nazi movement in his youth.. Doctrine of the Catolic Church created those horrific sufferings.. Popes were at the helm of the church. So much for that.. As for slavery - mention the second part of it - country (US) was in a Civil war - largely for this issue - and on it's own (without pressure from abroad) stopped this practice and made a lot od amends to slave decendents. As for Germans - today Germans are not accountable for what their parents / grandparents did - but during the time of Third Reich - they all either supported / or conveniently closed their eyes at what was happening not only to the Jews - but to all others whom they called "untermenchen". And the deep resentment that many Eastern Europeans have today against Germans is, at best, understood. Today - many people say that those responsible were Nazis. Nonsense.. It was not some alien people who were called 'Nazis" - they were Germans, Deutche Volke..
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