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Abbas lays out land demands
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Published: 10.10.07, 13:32
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31. Olmert Must Go!
Bruriah Sarah   (10.10.07)
One of the jobs of a leader is to protect the citizens. Olmert's policies will create national suicide. This is not leadership. Olmert and the entire government must go! Now!
32. HEY ABBAS!! WHAT A JOKE!!
stude ham   (10.10.07)
There is no return to the 1967 borders possible. and anyways... you're hamas toast.
33. will someone show olmert/abbas the first Rashi in the Torah?
israel   (10.10.07)
34. LET THE ARABS SEEK DEMOCRACY IN 21 ARAB COUNTRIES
David P. ,   Central Coast, USA   (10.10.07)
35. G-d gave us Eretz Yisrael, fact.
Shlomo ,   Israel   (10.10.07)
When will the spineless Israeli polititians and the world understand that Eretz Yisrael was given to us, the Jewish people. This land, previously called Canaan was taken from the arabs by G-d because they were so evil and given to us as a heritage. Complain to G-d, not us!
36. Are they non-believers?
Shlomo ,   Israel   (10.10.07)
I am amazed that Palestinians, as well as all muslims argue for a palestinian state. But as muslims they must believe in the tanach, otherwise they are not muslim. If they believe in the tanach, they know and must believe that G-d gave Canaan to the Jewish people. So what's the problem?
37. Israel grants residence to even more Arabs
Jake T ,   Alaska   (10.10.07)
in Judea and Samaria, but restrains additional construction by Jews. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/911438.html
38. Mike is right....its a starting point....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (10.10.07)
Obviously, Abbas isn't going to get the 1949 armistice borders. But let the negotiating begin.
39. #16 Ravi
Marcel ,   Florida   (10.10.07)
So wheres the peace in Sri Lanka ? Could be you're not opening the door or looking hard enough ? Please clean up your own house and front yard and then come and tell us about your wonderful peace, OK ?
40. #14, & my suggestions
Korem ,   New York, USA   (10.10.07)
As a proud pro-Israeli, I have to disagree with you 14. It doesn't matter whether they are invented or not. They exist en masse and therefore have the right to live on that land in peace. They make the same claims about Israel being an "invented" nation, but we too have the right to a state for no other reason than that we are a people living, born and raised there. The settlement blocks take up a sizeable portion of the West Bank/Judea & Samaria past the border, but only 3% of WB/J & S Palestinians live on that land. We take that land, they take the rest. The outposts have to go. Israel should provide FULL compensation, not the half-assed job from Gaza disengagement, to the settlers entering Israel proper. They get their land, we get ours. Jerusalem I'm still divided on, but I see no reason why not to have it as a shared capital. The right of return though- absolutely not.
41. #30
invicta ,   europa   (10.10.07)
Chaim, if as you say you are a 'graduate' from Belsen then you have my respect and I want to be clear that my opinions are sincere and not an attempt to be rude to you. The business about the belt buckle - 'Gott Mitt Uns' is true but that doesn't really prove anything. The great, great American (jewish) song - writer Robert Zimmerman put it brilliantly in 'With God on our Side' how different peoples claim God as their own and how god is used to justify the actions of the victors and the losers. A stamp on a belt buckle does not prove any alliance between Muslims and nazis. I think plenty of Muslims - from the British Commonwealth for example - were in the Allied armies. Think of all the Muslims in the Balkans alone who resisted the nazis. Islam was not an ally of nazi Germany. There was a Muslim brigade but that was more to do with a desire to rid the ME of the British than any desire to kill Jews.
42. invicta, #41
israeli ,   israel   (10.10.07)
I take it you never heard of Haj Amin el-Husseini? You might want to check him out. You'd be surprised.
43. PeaceProcess REQUIRES Jews to ACCEPT Being Maimed & MURDERED
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.10.07)
For the sake of justice, Bush, Blair, Rice, Olmert, Peres, Livni - all Americans, Europeans and Israelis involved in stealing Jewish land for expansionist Islam, must move to Sderot. Why should they be deprived of the results of their peace agreements? US/EU/UN are eager to duplicate in Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem the terrorist success of Gaza, LAND FOR WAR: the Jew-cleansed areas of Gaza have been transformed into global terrorist training grounds and rocket firing sites into Israeli communities. In Sderot, Israeli terrified peace process victims offered up as sacrifices - live in continual fear of constant daily rocket attacks. Their desperate pleas for help are cruelly ignored! The immoral peace process based on venomous Jew-hate and ruthless, forcible ethnic Jew-cleansing - REQUIRES Jews to ACCEPT being maimed and MURDERED! Stop the planned second Holocaust of Jews! Stop a Global Islamic TERROR State in Israel! Khomeini: “Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to paradise, which can be opened only for holy warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] psalms and hadiths urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.” “Islam grew with blood . . . . The great prophet of Islam in one hand carried the Koran and in the other a sword . . . . Islam is a religion of blood for the infidels but a religion of guidance for other people.” —Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. Council on American-Islamic Relations: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." - Omar Ahmad (CAIR co-founder). Addressing a youth session at the 1999 Islamic Association for Palestine's annual convention in Chicago, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) founder Omar Ahmad praised suicide bombers who "kill themselves for Islam," http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52184 “I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world,” — Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, (former leader of the extremist Al-Muhajiroun movement in Britain) in an interview with Reuters. “Soon we will take power in this country. Those who criticize us now, will regret it. They will have to serve us. Prepare, for the hour is near.” — Belgium-based imam in 1994. “De Morgen”, Oct. 5, 1994. Cited in Koenraad Elst, “The Rushdie Rules”, Middle East Quarterly, June 1998.
44. Peace WITHOUT Palestine
(10.10.07)
If this is where Abbas wants negotiations to start, Israel needs to think more strategically. How about this as a starting platform for negotiations: 1) There was never a Palestinian state to begin with: Why should we create one now? No Palestinian state. 2) The districts of Judea and Samaria will be annexed by the State of Israel. 3) All residents of the West Bank whose Jordanian citizenship was stolen from them in 1988 will be reinstated with their Jordanian citizenship. They will either be given the right to move back to Jordan (which was the Arab state envisioned by the UN in 1948) with full compensation from the Israeli government for the real estate left behind or will be able to remain in Judea and Samaria without such compensation. 4) Seeing that the majority of refugees from the 1948 war are descended from Syrian, Lebanese and Egyptian fellaheen, the right of return to their countries of origin has actually been realized by their displacement during the 1948 war. Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt must release the Palestinians they hold in concentration camps, repeal their apartheidist policies against them, and let them be a normal, functioning part of Arab society. 5) If one more Qassam is fired from Gaza, water and electricity will irrevocably be shut off. Gaza must either be annexed by Egypt or devolve into a Palestinian state ruled by Hamas. Let the negotiations begin!
45. #1 Olmert, Peres, Beilin, Livni Barak Obviously have
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.10.07)
Obviously, have planned for a quick get-away at the aiport when they see Israel surrounded by PA/PLO/Hamas, Al-Qaeda, Iran/Hezbollah, Syria and hostile Arab invading armies.
46. #39 Surely the same could be said about you and your
pathetic demo repub ,   govt. pink floyd.   (10.10.07)
47. Stop Treating Palis. like Children
Christy ,   Boston, US   (10.10.07)
Please believe what the Palis have been saying for years=> Israel is to be driven into the sea. Israel is to be wiped off the map. I can't understand why people treat the Palis. like little children who don't know what they're talking about. The Palis. have made the goal of wiping Israel from the map very clear. It isn't a secret. Yet another treaty can be drawn up, Israel can give more land away including Jerusalem and this will not lead to the peace the world expects. The Palis. do not want peace. They want Israel GONE. I wish this weren't the case. I would love to see Israel and the Palis be at peace with one another. But the cost of that peace to Israel is nothing less than vacating Israel. (Alaska, anyone?)
48. Pal State not viable...therefore will be Terror State...NO!
BJL ,   usa   (10.10.07)
49. 40-try reading the Tanach for a change!
Shiloh ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.10.07)
They are leaches. The land layed desolate for almost 2000 years. It was a desert land. The Jews, as promised, returned. The land became green, just like it was supposed to. You cross the 'green line' and it's remained a desert. Therefore they want what we built and was promised. I am both pro Jewish and pro Israeli. Israel and Jerusalem is for the Jews! Not for an invented people who are Arabs, from Jordan and Syria. Secondly, take them to the USA and give them a better life right in NYC. A win win situation.
50. Why should a guy with a PhD in ShoaDenial demand anything?
Oiy Oiy Oiiy ,   Leftist Cukoos   (10.10.07)
51. #42
Invicta ,   Europa   (10.10.07)
yes i am aware of this person and he was an unpleasent character. But his activities do not mean that all Muslims were allied with the nazis does it? I mean not even all Germans were allied with the nazis. I mean how many Muslims were there actually in the SS divison he set up? And they weren't very effective either. As long as there is no perspective - i.e all Muslims are terrorists, all Europeans want another holocaust etcetera, etcetera then how can you have an informed debate.
52. I call for abas to disappear...
trumpeldor ,   eurabia   (10.10.07)
53. "palestinian state" is a myth!
oded   (10.10.07)
there never ever was one, why should this 20th fraud still permeate? the main goal of the arabs is to finish the jews , once and for all , with every mean necessary... anyone who doesn't beleive this is either deranged , deaf , blind , or just a... left wing smallany!
54. cheeky little bastard
Mike ,   Jerusalem   (10.10.07)
They make war on us, they lose land which was occupied by Jordan, then they make demands? When is Britain going to unoccupy Ireland? When is Bush and coondaleeza rice going to return all the land that the USA stole from the Native Americans? When are the French frogs going to get out of the lands they occupy? War is war you lose go lick your wounds and don't make another war!
55. What do these guys spend so much time talking about?
Sam ,   Canada   (10.10.07)
Essentially the demands of Palestinians have not changed in years. What on earth do those politicians spend so much time talking about? No wonder nothing moves forward.
56. Not one inch!!!
Natan   (10.10.07)
You don't give ONE inch to a dictatorship!!! Unless the Palestinians have a true democracy, peace cannot exist!!! Abbas has no control on his people, he lost control of Gaza. Palestintian form of government is very unstable and corrupt!!! I can picture Olmert giving in to Abbas, before you know it Abbas is in exile enjoying the millions he stole from his people while Israel has to deal with Hamas that controls the pre 67 territory.
57. #53 ODED
(10.10.07)
AS ALWAYS OVER THE HISTORY , THE JEWS NEVER HAVE A COUNTRY BELONGS TO THEM , WHY? BECAUSE THE JEWS ARE RELIGION FOLLOWERS . THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN A NATION. AND NEVER STAY IN ONE AREA. AND USUALLY THEY HIDE UNDER THE TAIL OF SUPER POWER , AND DOING ON THEIR BEHALF ALL THE DIRTY JOBS . NOT TO FORGET WHAT THEY DID TO THE POLISH FARMERS ON BEHALF OF THE LAND LORDS . THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE BUT IF YOU LOOK FOR MORE , YOU CAN READ THE WORKS OF WILLIAM SHAKESPEAR .
58. #47 Christy
Marcel ,   Florida   (10.10.07)
The Palis. do not want peace. They want Israel GONE. Christy ,How is it that you are so much smarter than our president and know this ? Could he be this stupid or is it more than that ? An evil man working for Satans agenda ? I would hate to be in the shoes of fellow Christians who stand too close this wolf . They failed God's testing and fell for a fraudlent wolf in sheeps costume and still they refuse to repent. God is not mocked. They will go down to the pit with their demi-god.
59. #18 Israel in Alaska??
Mirj ,   Croatia   (10.10.07)
eh eh no, it would certainly fit on the Polish-German border eh eh!!! The locals would appreciate that
60. Abbas and his demands
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (10.10.07)
People in hell demand ice cream.
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