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'Israel's handling of Iranian threat a debacle'
Meital Zur
Published: 19.10.07, 00:41
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1. Olmert a Fool
SL ,   New York   (10.19.07)
While the mainstream media has to put a positive spin on it, Olmert's rash trip to Moscow, which reportedly enraged Washington, shows us once again that the predictions made in traditional Jewish literature about the type of leaders Israel will have before the coming of the Messiah are true! Olmert is at best a fool, at worst a knave.
2. Israel is the LIGHT for the nations!
Eli ,   Tel Aviv   (10.19.07)
Reading, listening to Israeli comments on Olmert's trip it seems that Russia has enormous powers over Israeli media, and many other aspects. Olmert is outside this interest group and this bothers Putin and his friends who wants to destroy Israel. Israel is the LIGHT for the nations, and this is why Olmert went to show the world that we don't play like the EU countries. Russia is on fast road to Fascism. Putin is blackmailing the world by helping Iran. He doesn't care about Israel, but wants to become a superpower again. From Y-net it seems that Putin has more supporters in Israel then Olmert. With 70% of israelis being of Russian descent it is no surprise. Did they forget what they ran away from?
3. Russia and Iran
chaim ,   miami beach usa   (10.19.07)
By Chaim Grosz The veterans of World War Two are having today a nagging sense of Dejavu a terrifying fear of, will today’s leaders succumb to believing the false inducement to placate the unsuspecting peaceful nations with boldfaced lies as uttered by leaders of countries that are committed to their total dominance of the world nations, and are fearful to take timely corrective action, in the hope that it will blow over or somebody else will tackle this threat. The clouds of war are being felt again. Then 1939 when the war began the Nazi’s using a false incident commence to invade Poland from one side and USSR invaded Poland from the other side together they successfully destroyed the government of Poland. Today the Islamic hoards are seeking to attain measure of superiority before they under one guise or another commence an attack against Israel with their long standing goal of Wiping Israel off the map” What is the same today as prior to the commencement of hostilities on in 1939, Communist Russia was a sworn enemy of Germany, Islam is also the sworn enemy of Russia, the war between Russia and the Muhjadin in Afghanistan, was so violent that even today the deep seated hatred has not abated. Beside Iran’s and Russian cultural differences are antagonistic to each other, Russia is either Greek Orthodox Christian or Atheist , both are in direct contradiction and is anathema to Islam. Mohammad allows, any and all lies any and all subterfuge when you are trying to subdue your enemy, you can even make a pact with the devil, but the Islamic leadership must break off any further association with those infidels as soon as you have obtained a victory over you enemies. Today the Islamic led Iran, also publicly espouses lies upon lies about their intentions of attaining Nuclear Weapons, allies itself with a nation of infidels Russia, to provide them with an umbrella of protection from the USA UN Israel and align themselves with the likes of Chavez, Cuba, China, but such pacts will only last until Iran has achieved its goal to posses weapons of mass destruction. What I fail to grasp is Russia’s allowing itself to be used by a Religious megalomaniac, The Soviet Union was on par with the United States in weapons of almost every description, the leaders understood the policy of MAD and realizing even if victorious over the United States and Europe all it will be able to rule from that victory is a nuclear wasteland and the cost of such will be suicidal. Put a theology of Islam which there are no individual rights but only an obligation to a collective and all must be subservient to Allah, so any notion of them being destroyed is acceptable since that is the will of Allah especially if that will also destroy what Allah hates, all non believers. So I pose this question to the leadership of Russia, do you want to hitch your wagon to such an intolerant unmovable philosophy that which you have first hand knowledge, they actually welcome Death, and all for what, the resources which are currently there will be unusable for the unforeseen future, and chance that your country will also suffer horrendous suffering, a total collapse of your economic base. The Russian leadership is unrealistic to believe that the Jews will again allow any armed forces from any nation to destroy them without Israel either preempt a devastating blow or even if it is first attacked it will respond with all its might and disregard what the world likes to quote such action is a violation of International Law. The Jew of today is not the historic subservient second or third class stateless citizens. This Armageddon respond will be forthcoming without any doubt to any WMD attack. 10/18/2007 4:08:25 PM
4. Olmert's positive action
mr ,   israel   (10.19.07)
Kol hakovod - not having to stand idly by while the world looks on.
5. To SL in NY
mr ,   israel   (10.19.07)
So Washington was enraged - I believe you are a fool and not Olmert.
6. #3 Chaim
Glenn ,   Canada   (10.19.07)
Russia is also holding its nose and making alliances with people they fear and despise. For the Russians too this is a temporary alliance. They have long term plans for world domination. These are mere tactics to get there. But speaking of alliances with Islamic countries, you don't need to look any further than your own White House. Sadly to say, they too have capitulated.
7. #3
Richard ,   London UK   (10.19.07)
Iran is not a threat. Iran is bluffing. Iraq is currently occupied by around 150.000 foreign and belligerent troops. Iran did not bring devestation to Iraq. Any country with a foreign and aggresive army occupying the neighbouring country would 'big itself' up and seek alliances with other powers. Iraq did not have WMDs and neither has Iran. Of far more concern should be Pakistan, which does have nuclear weapons and which is teetering on the bring of an Islamist 'revolution' (look at today's news) Yet, Pakistan is an ally of the US. Attacking Iran will solve nothing and will only exacerbate the tension.
8. Glenn #6 and Richard # 7
chaim ,   miami beach usa   (10.19.07)
There is one major difference between the Bush administration ties to a major contributor to Islamic extremism and Putin of Russia, Bush is open with his family’s close association to Saudi Arabia rulers, any threat against the Saudis is a direct threat to their Cash Cow hence Desert Storm 1 and the current conflict in Iraq. Contrary to most opinions that America attacked Iraq at the behest of Israel, if that is the reason why Iraq, why not Syria which is more of a direct threat to Israel it is bordering on Israel north directly on the Golan and indirectly with their proxy in Lebanon. America was terrified that if there was even a slight chance that Iraq has or will have nuclear or other WMD, it will overpower not only Kuwait which they believed to be the 19th Provence of Iraq, but also would by intimidation assert dominion over the rich oil fields in Saudi Arabia and stop the cash flow to Bush/Chaney. What I am having trouble to understand is why Russia is entering into a cesspool of ancient ideological religious driven hate that once they assert their beachhead of Islamic theology it would take a major operation of removing them from you society. It cannot be for their desire to become dominant, Europe is rife with quisling leaders that if Russia would just even look their way, they would collapse and fold like a house of cards. So why knowingly lie down in a bed full of vermin. It makes no sense whatsoever.
9. Israel is now not believed
John ,   London,UK   (10.19.07)
Israel desperately tried to scared the world by claiming that Iran is the new Germany and its now 1930. Ahmadienjad is the new Hitler, and so on. But sadly no one really believed Israel. EU and Russian now think Israel is behaving like a paranoid child. Olmert runs to Moscow to ask "tell me. tell me. what Iran say. What Iran say. " Awww. Poor Olmert. The fact is that people around the world have now waken up to Israeli media spin and propaganda. They dont buy Israeli scaremongering tactics anymore. British press give a scathing criticism of Israel policies. In US some academics are openly blaming Israeli policies as cause of 9/11. Never in history has world condemned Israeli like this. No wonder some are beginning to doubt whther after 9/11 Israel's very existence is now in question. It seems 9/11 has been more of a disaster for Israel than for US. I think Israel should now get wise leaders who really can save Israel. Because otherwise. its days seems numbered.
10. #8
Richard ,   London UK   (10.19.07)
The US was not terrified of Iraq's WMDs because the US knew perfectly well that there were no WMDs. As everyone knows the US knew what weaponary Iraq had because the US sold them the weapons in the first place - to attack Iran. (see a pattern emerging?) Russia is not entering a : 'cesspool of ancient ideological religious driven hate ....' Russia is maintaining its interests by keeping the US out of the region. As the US did in Cuba. Also, who are these 'quisling' leaders in Europe you refer to?
11. # 9 John and #10 Richard both from a small island country
chaim ,   miami beach usa   (10.19.07)
Known as England. no longer the United Kingdom that distinction has been lost a long time ago yes the sun does set on the former Kingdom each and evry day As whether Israel is belived or not whether the openly biased English arabist press writes scathing critiicism by openly a press core that never sleeps in the areas controled by the Islamist and they make certain to be back in Israeli controled areas before sun set. goes only to prove the tolorance of the Jews of people of differing opinions if they even dare to write any thing not approved by the islamic terrorists they know to fear for their lives if they are cought by the wonderful tolorant peace loving Arabs whose cause they champion. according to the every conspiricy theory the Jews are to blame for any ill that befalls the world the Jews have gotten used too such trash talk that they do not give it any credence at all. you ask who are the quisling leaders the ones that allow islamic hate teachings in their country out of fear of Arab unrest the same ones that outlaw any writings or cartoons that the Islamist who live amounst them object to. a true self assured government has laws and enough forces to compell the obidiance to the rule of law and not cave to a group of hate induced unrest and mayham combined with terrorist acts. the most stupid remark is Russia is maintaining its interest by keeping the US out of the region, since when is that refion Russian, beside weapons what humanitarian aid has Russia ever provided to the Arab population, America has as much right to be their as Russia the diffrence being the US goal in entering Iraq was to bring the population releif from a ruthless dictator the fact that the Arabs are unable to live in peace with anybody even with their own kind so instead of taking advantage of the freedom offered by the US they were egged on by no other then the darlings of Russia Iran and Iraq to destory every vestage of humanity in Iraq. I understand you have a right to your opinion but so do I have a right to refute and denigrate your opinion since your opinion is hate derived and in contridiction of the real fact, that others have the same hate induced ideas does not conferr upon it an credence it si still wrong
12. #9
Zeev ,   Haifa   (10.20.07)
"In US some academics are openly blaming Israeli policies as cause of 9/11". And the members of KKK in US are openly blaming Jews and blacks for everything, what's new?
13. #12 Zeev
ben Ish   (10.20.07)
Well said, however I must point out that stating facts is irrelevant. These people only care about their own hypocrisies. These people rather feel good about themselves than admit being wrong. US Academics feel good about themselves because they blame others, KKK feels good about themselves because they blame others. No one wants to take responsibility for themselves, leaders included. It is much more satisfying to blame Israel for defending itself, because in their hearts, US/UK liberals hate Israel even more than Arabs hate Jews, but US/UK are consumed with hypocrisy and hedonism too much to admit their own ignorance, even to themselves.
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