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Gabso to Zilber: Forget about it
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Published: 23.10.07, 17:16
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1. He has a point
ELiyahu   (10.23.07)
Justice in this country is a little weird. It should not be controversial that a prisoner, any prisoner, gets the rights the legal system has set fo him. And it is also acccepted that certain politicians are abve the law. Shouldn't the designers of Oslo be investigated to insure that they adhered to the law.? They certainly shouldn't be exempt. Olmert seems to be exempt. Sharon was. Peres is not only exempt, he grants exemption to murderers with blood on their hands.
2. What bothers all you lefties...
R   (10.23.07)
That Ariel Zilber spoke out for treating Amir as all other criminals does not bother the left and other self haters. What bothers them is the fact that he may become a Bal Teshuva like Uri Zohar ;)
3. Zilber like Amos Oz has free speech
Ilan ,   Ariel   (10.23.07)
Don't like then don't read Oz or listen to Zilber. Don't worry life will still be complete.
4. yigal
gigi ,   belgium   (10.23.07)
I'm not supporting yigal but I'm for zilber and the other 50% of the country who has been silenced by the lefts control of the media. But all this will change soon, it will start when the numbers change from 50/50 to 55/50 and from there it will speed up because the left will join burg in france.
5. Gigi - your talkback is stupid...and you can't add to 100.
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (10.23.07)
6. "The left will [go to] france", Says the Jew in Belgium
Aharon   (10.23.07)
7. Free Speech and Opinions
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (10.24.07)
If you insist on exercising free speech and disseminating your opinions, especially as a public figure, you had best be willing to live with the consequences. Just as you have the right to express yourself, what I think of what you express is no less within my rights. As one might have said to Mel Gibson, "You're free to spout to your heart's content, d---head."
8. Every decent person should act like Shai Gabso.
Mark Kerlen ,   Canada   (10.24.07)
Zilber and others promote hate, criminality, murder, including the murder of the Prime Minister of Israel. These people MUST be ostracized from Israeli society.
9. Yigal Amir's Rights?
Rachel ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (10.24.07)
Actually, the only thing prisoners who commit murder do not have are "rights" nor are they deserved. This is the one thing that society can take away from an individual for committing horrendous acts. Things go beyond the idiotic left wing and right wing debates when one advocates murder which is what anyone stating that Amir should go free are doing. Regardless of who is killed, no one should go free for committing such acts. They are direct assaults on the state when it is a leader or political personage. It is shamless for anyone to support freeing such a creature as Yigal Amir. Yitzchak Rabin had the right to express his views as the elected head of state without fear of assassination and whose rights were egregiously violated. I do not see anyone mourning over this point.
10. hes really lost the plot
Simon ,   TA Israel   (10.24.07)
Ariel Zilber as well as being a homophobe now adds supporting a murderer to his list of credits. This guy really lost the plot along time ago, although i think he does a good impression of the dog that plays the piano on the Muppet show.
11. Defending democracy or a dictatorship?
Simply Jewish ,   Yesha Israel   (10.24.07)
Based on presented video evidence, I have serious doubts that Amir was the murderer of PM Rabin. Does this mean that I support Rabins' assassination? No, of course not! Israelis found out today that 99.8% of criminal prosecutions are found guilty. That's staggering, especially in light of the continous suppression of corruption cases brought against our leaders. Isn't it more in the interest of defending democracy that the truth not be suppressed, and that basic individual rights are maintained?
12. What an asshole
lix   (10.24.07)
I always knew that there was something I didnt like about Ariel Zilber...... He thinks Yigal Amir has rights???? What about Rabin's rights???? What about the ten commandments? Pathetic asshole
13. Others to boycott
Amos ,   Israel   (10.24.07)
I agree and would like to add Aviv Gefen, Michael Lewis, Bar Rafeli and all other draft-dodging parasites.
14. #9: Is amir worse than the arab killers who received amnesty
eliyahu   (10.25.07)
It's amazing that so many Israelis get all uptight about saying that Yigal Amir has rights. But no one says a word when Arabs with blood on their hands are released scott free after a few months in jail. Shimon Peres is the ultimate hypocrite. Why was Rabin's murder worse than all the other jews who have been killed due to Oslo?
15. #14: Your question is a stupid one.
Mark Kerlen ,   Canada   (10.25.07)
Whose worse? - the answer is irrelevant. The answer does not affect how Yigal Amir must be dealt with by the justice system. Arab killers received amnesty as part of political agreements, in the hope of benefiting Israel. Whether you believe this or not is irrelevant. If an agreement with Hamas could be arranged where they would accept Yigal Amir in exchange for Shalit, I would have no objection in granting Amir amnesty . Or if a similar agreement could be reached with Hezbollah for the release of the 2 captured IDF soldiers, again I would have no objection in granting Amir amnesty. Absent any such agreement - the murderer of the Prime Minister of Israel will sit in jail for the remainder of his days. Finally, even though the answer to your question is irrelevant - I will give you the answer: - AMIR is worse.
16. Karken from Canada should talk less
Amir ,   Beer Sheva   (10.25.07)
We are getting rockets every day because of Rabin-Peres-Beilin policies. We are getting killed because of them. You can do what you want in your Canada but don't tell us that we have to die. Recently Left wanted concert with PA killers in Tel Aviv.
17. Shai gabso...a wannabe....
gabsosux ,   zilberrules   (10.25.07)
Ariel Zilber is a great musician and speaks the truth. Gabso....when your music sux you turn into a politician?....you suck at politics too ,haver.
18. Response to #15 from #14: You made a good point
eliyahu   (10.25.07)
Although I am obviously on "the other side of the fence", I appreciate what you said and how you said it. I agree with you but not with the political maneuvering that led to the the release of the PA terrorists. I do not think Amir shuld be released. I also don't think the PA terrorists shuld be released, and for the same reason. I am shocked that political considerations and maneuvering can release murderers, Jewish or Arab, from jail. But why should considering Amir's release be reprehensible when releasing PA killers is considered a "Moral neccesity"? I think it is equally immoral. Which says a lot about the process and the politicians.
19. To # 18 -releasing PA killers NOT a moral necessity
Mark Kerlen ,   Canada   (10.26.07)
Releasing PA killers is NOT a "Moral neccesity". They are NOT being released for "moral reasons". They are released in the hope Israel will receive a benefit - ie an eventual peace treaty. Whether you believe this will happen doesn't matter. Yigal Amir, just like the palestinian terrorists, does not deserve any sympathy, nor to be released for moral reasons. Unfortunately for Amir - no valid reason exists or could exist to release him.
20. The left denies the right freedom to speak
jason white ,   afula,israel   (10.26.07)
Only they are allowed to speak,even against the state,the I.D.F., Judaism, ect. They will speak against us all over the world. But anyone else has no right to speak.
21. Mark Kerlen - please stay in Canada!
elchonon ,   chevron   (10.28.07)
You have the same sickness as the lefties here.. Well yes its VERY relevant how and why arab terrorists are released!! Because every time they go back to killing more jews.. living in canada you have nothing to fear.. I on the other hand am the one getting shot at! Secondly the arab terrorists are released in "goodwill gestures" which to my knowledge we have done at least 100 times.. The arabs never do a "good will" gesture.. in fact they just laugh at the revolving door jails and it further motivates them to keep killing, Finally, while till this day there are many experts arguing that amir did not kill rabin.. but if he did ? I am against him and dont support murder.. But that being said, your arguement that rabin is worst than the terrorists is pathetic and comical.. sure amir murderd the prime minister (or not) but his goal is / was not to kill as many people possible as the terrorists do... Lastly, its sad how the left can find moral ground to forgive the terrorists basing it all on the evil occupation blah blah blah.. they are not terrorists just freedom fighters right? Does this not support murder ? .... And mister canadian, YOU are commiting accesssory to murder everytime you justify the release of terrorists.. peace may be honky dory to you.. its rocks, bullets and firebombs to me.
22. #21 - you may be right in what you say....
Mark Kerlen ,   Canada   (10.28.07)
about the Palestinian terrorists and the consequences of releasing them. I am not going to argue with you about that. But using the release of Palestinian terrorists to promote the release of Yigal Amir, is convoluted, and dishonest., and FOOLS NO ONE - except those who who believe they have the right to disobey the law, and even kill, whenever they see fit. And this is not an issue of left vs right . It is an issue of the rule of law; of respect for authority; for democracy; and even of Israel's survival. Because if ever Amir is released, such an event would be recalled as the first step by the modern state of Israel, towards a path to becoming another footnote of history. Finally, Yigal Amir IS the murderer. I am not interested in your BOGUS conspiracy theories.
23. ygal amirs innocence
yigals inoccent ,   canada   (11.04.07)
mark u seriously dont know what youre talkin about my father was working in the israeli government until they fired him for supporting igal amir he knew what happened why do you think the head bodyguard in rabins ss disappeared? he didnt agree to their plan ! do u no they found 3 bullets in him?! 2 that igal shot hit him in the shoulder then later while taken away he was shot at point zero!!!!!!!!! and finally igal amir is NOT the murderer!
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