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JNF bill challenged by Arab proprietary database
Sharon Roffe-Ofir
Published: 23.10.07, 20:15
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1. The Bible is OUR database and much older than yours.
Joseph P. ,   Jerusalem   (10.23.07)
The Bible describes the land that G-d gave the Jews quite clearly. Israel, according to the Bible, includes quite a bit of land that Arab countries stole from us.
2. We Should Follow The Advice Of US General WT Sherman
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (10.23.07)
"If they want eternal war, well and good; we accept the issue and will dispossess them and put our friends in their places. Three years ago, by a little reflection and patience, they could have had a hundred years of peace and prosperity, but they preferred war; very well. Next year, their lands will be taken; for in war we can take them and rightfully too, and in another year they may beg vainly for their lives." - Civil War General William Tecumseh Sherman in a letter spelling out his attitude in the fight against the Confederacy
3. This guy is out to lunch. Very much so.
freedom ,   canada   (10.23.07)
How a bout a database for every single person that lost land in a war. I can start with my great grandparents and the communists of Yugoslavia. They took a huge acreage of land from them in the second world war. Who should i sue to get my land back. How about the deposed Christians in the west bank and the ejected Jews from Gaza and the west bank and other areas in the middle east. How many databases can we start and how do we enforce these databases. HEY MK you are a joke.
4. JNF = FRAUD
Jason ,   Canada   (10.23.07)
5. There should be legal suit against JNF
Jason ,   Canada   (10.23.07)
for fraud perpetrated on Jews who donated their hard earned money to legally purchase land, land that was subsequently given to Jew's enemies. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/7343
6. JNF/ Kerin Kayemet a sham
Josh   (10.23.07)
Where in Torah does it say return to the land and rent it? Jews are being ripped off of Torah and their right to own the land. Between the Rabbis and these strange institutions Jews dont read Torah as Moses delivered it and they do not come to possess the land. Some othe entity owns the land, we get to rent it from them. Jews were supposed to return to the land and posses it. Talk about a combo. Pay full price and more for a property but never own it. Then pay taxes on the land which someone else owns. Combo!
7. GARBAG IN... GARBAGE OUT...
stude ham   (10.23.07)
How will these arabs certify the authenticity of the data they'll pump into their shoddy little clone of a desktop? As they say in the trade... garbage in ... garbage out... and that about will sum up that arab effort to dispossess us of the lands of Israel.
8. Databases and racist agendas...
Joe ,   Los Angeles, CA   (10.23.07)
Hanna Swaid's percentage numbers sound fudged and his biased, racist, hate-filled agenda couldn't be clearer, but his idea of creating a database is a marvelous idea with the Annapolis Conference coming up in a few weeks. Sephardi and Mizrachi Jews should build a database of all the property lost to them via the ethnic cleansing that took place in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, Yemen, etc. and use this as a tool in peace negotiations. No peace plan would be honest if the issue of reparations to Sephardi and Mizrachi Jews is not satisfactorily addressed. On a personal note, however, all this talk of database building to "prove" ownership of land is utter nonsense. The simple fact that a non-Jew can always become Jewish and a non-Arab can never become an Arab is enough to expose the racist, apartheidist policies of the Palestinians (our partners in the peace process, haha) and of the Arab Israeli MK's who wish to implement those policies on Jews. To make a long story short, if you want to buy JNF land, convert to Judaism. If you don't want to convert to Judaism, there's plenty of land elsewhere in the Middle East to purchase.
9. Bait and Switch Scam
ralphsrant1 ,   USA   (10.24.07)
Bait and Switch Scam promises money is to be used to plant forest and to settle jews and the money is being used to help Arabs. I was considering giving money to them when I die but now I have my doubts. Where is all the money I gave all these years maybe I should ask for it back? http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com/
10. Fake Database
freejay ,   Israel   (10.24.07)
How many fake deeds were created when Arafat was in power? THOUSANDS! Every application should be checked for authentication., but i bet they wont be. This is just another scam by the Pallies to steal Jewish land! Did you know that alot of East Jerusalem is actually jewish owned, but YNet wont print that.!
11. Land records.
Aline ,   Kfar Saba   (10.24.07)
The State of Israel can start by cleaning up the land records offices in this a country. They are an unorganized mess. It takes years to get a new house registered, for what reason I can't begin to understand. Sometimes the lawyers, who work for the building contractors, but are paid by the home buyer, never file the papers, so that if the house is later sold they can get a kickback. After getting the land records offices orgainized, we can figure out who owns what.
12. the right to take property
Aline ,   Kfar Saba   (10.24.07)
If the State has to take people's property, they can to do so, but have to pay them the fair market value. Every country has the right to do this, it is called eminent domain(it is done in the US all the time). I don't know if these landowners were ever paid, but they should be. Maybe we can pay them now retroactively in exchange for them giving up their claims.
13. "The Jewish National Fund shall be the eternal ...
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (10.24.07)
possession of the Jewish people",was declared in the Fifth Zionist Congress,in 29 december 1901. The work of the JNF was carried out by patient fund-raising throughout the Diaspora. Its symbol was the "Blue Box",placed in shops ,offices,synagoges,etc. Children,poor and wealthy Jews donated. It is Jewish Land,bought with Jewish money! Arabs must live in the Peninsula of their own name!
14. MK Swaid should do data base ...
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (10.24.07)
For their ancestral property in Saudi Arabia .....
15. Jewish land bought with Jewish money
English guy ,   London   (10.24.07)
Self-deluding nonsense written in #13. History tells us that at the time of the cease-fire in 1948, 8% of the land and assets of the state of Israel had been bought and paid for. The other 92% was in the hands of Palestinian Arabs - hundreds of thousands of whom fled. There was a plan mooted to meet Palestinian leaders in Switzerland and offer compensation for the assets which the state expropriated, but Ben Gurion felt it was not necessary. Now, #13, let's see how the great majority of areas lived in by Jewish Israelis came to be owned by the JNF... ah, simple transfer by the state of land which it had not bought and which it did not own, to the JNF which then sold it on to Jewish-only purchasers. Thus, the majority of land was NOT bought by the proceeds of the little Blue Boxes. It was simple land theft. Perhaps one can say it was opportunistic, but it was, in the final analysis, land theft. No compensation was paid, no deeds of sale were signed. Shall we also talk about the bank accounts of Palestinian residents which were expropriated as well? They certainly were not the proceeds of the little Blue Boxes. As for your final sentence, "Arabs must live in the Peninsula of their own name" - how may more facile racist slogans are you planning to write before you go and study a little history of the stolen land in which you chose to go and live?
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