...you cant use Rabin's death for propaganda as it causes Israel to do the exact opposite the propaganda was intended to do. Let Rabim lay in peace and find another way to get your message of supporting the goverment across.

why did the game organizers have to mix in politics with football?! rabin has been idolized by the left, but why should all people of reason be forced into honoring his memory, disgraced by spilled jewish blood and national suicide tendencies by successive israeli governments?

When my parents, Shoah survivors from Germany, tried to explain to me the uprising of the Nazi's in Germany in the early 30'ies of the last century, I did not comprehend. I could not comprehend how it could be that the "brown shirt"s were considered Germany's finest. I could not comprehend how even some naive Jews thought they could participate in the dream of a better Germany. I could not comprehend how many decent Germans did not see the monster that, like a cancer, was growing inside it's own walls and culture. I could not understand, I could not grasp, I could not............. Now I finally can. Thank you, you thousands of Beitar Jerusalem fans, for showing me within a few minutes what many years of thinking, seeing and listening to Shoah survivors could not accomplish.

regardless of how I feel about Rabin, his murder has been stuffed down our throat for years as a way of demonizing the victims. the right wing, and giving a symbol, a martyr, for a bunch of money hungry dirty politicians pushing forward an absurd plan that brings nothing but pain and suffering for arabs and jews alike.

It is time to understand why these people hate Arabs. Could it have something to do with the relentless murder of Jews by Arabs? The shelling of Sderot, and areas? The constant security threat? The need for al Israelis to serve in the military? What can Israel do to stop this? And hatred for leftists? Could it be because the leftists' policies have done nothing to address the root causes of Israeli soccer fan's anger? Perhaps appeasement of terrorists is not the way to go. Time to seek out the true root causes and correct them, not to condemn people for holding opinions we don't like.

Thats why Amir has become so popular. Its the only way to make the leaders and the media and the leftists share the pain of the nation that are watching this happen as we speak.

they hate everybody. What foolishness! According to your Leftist twisted belief, everybody or almost everybody in this country are Leftists. That's quite untrue. Here's a poll proving how there are more Rightwingers in this country than Leftwingers. But the Leftists are less refined, louder and control the media, the court system and the government. They make a commotion as if they are Klal Yisrael. If not for these ugly Leftist, Israel would be on the "Right" path. It's the Leftists destroying this country. This can easily be proven. All Leftists should get out of here and settle among their Arab friends in Arab countries where they will be very welcome(?) and they'll live in peace and Israel will prosper with the Rights and will be a light unto nations. (You cannot prove it the other way around for the Rightists to leave, because there won't be an Israel left. The Left would just give it all up. So it can only be proven with the Left leaving.) http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/135913

"Yitzhak Rabin did not deserve to be murdered. He simply deserved to lose the public trust. He deserved to live out his life in obscurity rather than dying a martyr for a detestable cause." Ben Shapiro http://www.israelforum.com/board/s howpost.php?p=141295&postcount=44

They are tired of being killed because they are Jewish in their own Jewish homeland. They are saying that they refuse to give up another inch of land for the criminal land for peace by piece deals because it has been proven by the palis that they will never honor any agreements. Their own charters prove the pali goal is to drive the "Jews into the sea" and steal all of Israel. What they are saying is they are tired of risking their lives and their families while the terrorists who are captured are freed after just a few short years and allowed their freedom to kill more Jews. What they are saying is that the land has always belonged to the Jews and there is no such thing as a palestinian people with claim Jewish land and they refuse to let the corrupt gov't continue to perpetrate a murderous lie on them. What they are saying is that they are fed up with the USA as an "ally" who trains their enemies, provides them with weapons when their true goal is to turn the bullets on Israelis. The gov't is supposed to defend its electorate not to support the enemies and murderers of its state and reward them with Jewish land, money and weapons. INSANITY !!. Its time for a serious investigation into the money trail of current and past governments who insist on suicidal land give-aways and the continued murder of Israelis that the government refuses to protect. That is what these fans are saying professor. Shame on you for not coming down on the right side of a just morality, virtuous character and Israel's defensible future. How many traitors live in Israel???

The fans are tired of the Left hating the Right--more than hating their true enemies, the arabs and the Jew hating Jews and the corrupt gov't.. Unbelievable. It is people and professionals and educators like you that make Israel a dangerous country. You undermine her global standing and shock Jews around the world that Israel refuses to protect her own. Your position gives license to continue the Jewish hatred ----the likes that have not been experienced since the late 1930's. My parents are Holocaust survivors and in just one short generation you want to throw the Jewish homeland away ----the only place in the world where we are supposed to be safe and free. Shame on all of you. It is this rhetoric and position that scares Jews from making aliyah and enboldens the rest of the world to insist Israel has no claims to her divinely sanctioned lands because you give it away as if it is yours to throw away. It is not. Go visit the Camps and then kiss the ground in Israel. The world is setting the stage for another Jewish Holocaust , happily assisted by many "Jews". Never again? Oh yes, with the Left's mindset and help--it is Very Soon !! DESPICABLE !!!!!

When I saw that mob screaming my vision blurred by tears swelling up in my eyes while they had to witness here in Israel, in Jerusalem and in the year 2007 the most vicious and hideous expression of fascisme known to me in recent times. Is it just coincidence that the blur caused in my eyes made the yellow and black colored shirts and shawls of the thousands of Beitar Jerusalem fans turn into an ugly brown, bringing back memories of initially glorious HJ's convened in a football stadium some odd 70 years ago??? No of course not. Every painter (btw, 88, a.k.a. A. Hitler, was also a painter...,) knows that in order to obtain brown, you mix yellow and black paint !!!!

Thank you dear elitist leftist academic for telling us what to think. However, unfortunately for you, we will make up our own minds on what hate is and who the haters are.

when arabs write similar pieces about their own people. Unfortunately it seems the Jews are the only ones who criticize themselves. Sure, it's not good to chant death to this and that. But look around you. You don't live in Disneyland. you live in an area infested with people who hate Jews. Plain and simple. What were those signs on the tanks holding Iranian missiles at the most recent parade..oh yea, death to Israel. So, is this so unusual? No, not really. What I want to know is...where are the arab/moslem voices of dissent. Until there are ANY, I have no problem with these chants. Action, reaction.

I dont care for soccer, I find soccer fans rude (I take the bus frm kinyan malcha alot) but the talkbackers made interesting points. Jack at Ramat Hasharon clearly outlines how anyone who does not like your views must be facist nazi's no? No sir you dont know what jews under nazism sufferd.. it was not a bunch of chanting soccer fans.. funny how when the right compares things to nazism everyone starts screeching. Its a bunch of soccer fans, maybe you should write a article about the 120,000 hate feast at kikar rabin the other night as they tore apart the right?

the people defending the actions of the Beitar fans disgust me...I was not a big fan of Rabin's policies either but the man has done more for Israel with his little finger than most of these disgusting talkbalkers have ever done. Any civilized Western country would honor one of its leaders that was murdered; to say this is some left wing plot is ridiculous...stop making excuses and blaming others, blaming everything on the left wing... anyone making excuses for the murder of Rabin, and the actions of these animal beitar fans, you are a disgrace and embarrasment to Israel....If these people ever become a majority in Israel, G-d help us all...such a disgrace!

While you berate the behavior of soccer fans - who are not a paragon of sophistication or political correctness anywhere in the world - you are closing your eyes to what your enemies, pardon me, your "partners in peace" are saying and doing openly on PA television. "A new video clip, broadcast numerous times daily since it first appeared on Fatah-controlled TV last week, passionately promises "Mother" that every Israeli city will be "liberated" because its "identity is Arab" and "Palestinian”: "We will liberate the Land… [which] is Arab in history and identity, Palestine is Arab in history and identity." And to ensure that no one limits the land of the future "liberated Palestine," the song defines the scope of Palestinian cities, which include all of Israel. "From Jerusalem and Acre and from Haifa and Jericho and Gaza and Ramallah From Bethlehem and Jaffa and Be'er Sheva and Ramle And from Nablus to the Galilee, and from Tiberias to Hebron” This is significant not only because it was broadcast on Fatah TV, but because the constant repetition of this clip promising Israel's destruction comes at the very time that the world is preparing for a peace conference. Also: A clip broadcast by Fatah-controlled Palestinian television this week shows a map in which Israel is painted in the colors of the Palestinian flag, symbolizing Israel turned into a Palestinian state. (Palestinian Media Watch Bulletins) http://www.pmw.org.il/Bulletins_oct2007.htm#b291007 Israelis, stop fighting each other and defend your land against the Bush-Olmert-Abbas plot to destroy your country.

We teach our citizens how to think for themselves,and then slam them when they don't think the way we want them to. This article smells of hypocrisy and elitism.This reporter mentions Israeli society's dirty backyard.I suppose he inhabits Israel's dirty frontyard.No prizes for guessing which is dirtier. I wouldn't like to hazard a guess from where he got his Docotorate in Sociology,or where he should stick it.

Where does Galili stand on Olmert and his willingness to expel tens of thousands of Jew from Judea and Samaria before Mr. Bush leaves office in 2009? This is Mr. Bush's priority before leaving office. Does anyone know? Anyone? Where does Galili stand on the establishment of a Palestinian Muslim terrorist state in the Holy Land? Does anyone know? Please do not tell me these questions are irrelevant. Doesn't anyone know where Galili stands?

Characters of the deluded israeli left find fault with all who disagree with them. To this character, Galili, the football fans are racist and they are a "cancer". You are the cancer, Galili: neta zar-you hate your own people and you are a traitor who can identify with the enemy. I am sick of you and your kind: self-hating pompous individuals who do think that they are the righteous "israelis". You are a lost, frightened bunch whose parents did not teach you to be aproud jew, that your heritage is more important than the feelings of the arabs who surround you and despise you.

Only Leftist can speak freely? Only they want peace? That is more of a danger to Israeli society that the booing of Rabin. Where were you when Sharon's minister was killed were you at any of the memorial services or only the left worthy pf mourning? There is a real problem in democracy when people cannot speak with freedom. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com/

WHAT AN IDIOTIC POST!

Hooliganism at football matches isn't good, but forcing the Rabin/Amir fetish into the stadium isn't any better. Better to learn the lesson and not throw a rotten fish into a crowd before complaining about mob behavior. In any case writing a set of PC guidelines on what type of cheering fans can do will not work. Betar management doesn't need adopt the stalinist mindset of the Israeli left. Football is more intelectual than that.

... sport doesn't build character; it reveals it.

You are no Rightwingers and you are no Rightists. It can't be right that your Right is the right Right. You do not have the copywright on these Rights because I believe you are wrong. And your wrong is the right Wrong. Listen to yourself: #10: Your English is perfect; your name sounds foreign, so how is your Hebrew? Do you even live here? I can debate with you on these issues you put in the mouth of that mob, but that does not mean that these hooligans can destroy from within the essence of the state of Israel and its right of existence. If Israel's right of existance would be based on those "rights" then we have renounced our rights! #8: a Joseph P...... He carries his first name with honor. His companion in name could have used some of #8 sentences in his radio speeches, just replace 'leftist' with 'jews' or/and 'communists' and you have the "endloesung", the final solution..... #7: Amir popular??? Lee Oswald popular in your country?? Yeah right! #6: Your shout proofs that you are lying! And too afraid to put a name to that sentence. Crawl back under that piece of stone that you call your hole. #5: No simple solutions are at hand for sure, but appeasement of hooligans is definitely not the way to go. #4: How you feel about Rabin is a no-brainer and using this platform for your idea about what our politicians should not do is also a no-brainer which we all can understand.

Dear Brooke, It are fascists, non-democrats, people-haters and prime-minister-murderers who make Israel a dangerous country. Are you one of these shocked Jews whom global understanding was undermined?? Parden me, but you have to learn what reality is all about. As long as no column of fire at least 1km. high is guiding the Israeli government what to do, we have to do what we can in a real world. And our strength and capabilities are not endless. So we have to use it with restrain and in the most effective way without rocking the boat which is already full with lose cannons! So now it is the rhetoric and position that scares Jews from making aliyah? Tomorrow it could be the bad weather and next week the high costs of moving and next month ........ Who is you that should be shamed? Who are those that are "giving" it away?? If it is not theirs to throw away, then is it yours?? If you are too scared to make aliya, then for sure a short visit to the camps and on the way back to the safe USA, a quick kissing of the ground in Israel is actually not a bad idea.... I agree with you that the world may set the stage for another Jewish Holocaust and I agree also with you that this may happen with assistance of many Jews (without the double quote signs), but I believe these are the Jews who think they live in biblical times and big wonders are going to happen if you only circle 7 times around something blowing the shofar...

Censoring feedback? by Andras Bereny Perhaps it's time for the left to realize that they are overdoing it with Rabin, that he may have been an error of Israeli democracy rather than the champion of it. Perhaps it's time for the left to realize that important segments of society can not be censored and terrorized to silence with calls of "Fascists, Fascists!". Jewish nationalism and patriotism is NOT fascism, the same way as Zionism is not racism. Galili should be more careful caling people "fascists"! Perhaps it is time for the left to realize that Israel was founded as a Jewish country and Jewishness is measured by Torah Law and by Torah values. At a time when the ruling peres-beinish-mazuz-olmert-livni-barak elite is refusing to recognize any of the reasons the majority of the people in this country wake up in the morning and get out of bed for, well, in such a circumstance you must not be surprised to see Beitar Jerusalem fans telling you and to the world what they think. By the way, they also speak for the 30 imprisoned and brutalized teens held currently in Ariel Police Station, "guilty" of being good Jews, occupying their own, G-d given Land. This also is the "crime" of Yekutiel Ben Yakov and Nerya Ofan, the two Jews who were recently expelled from their homes in Samaria for three months by a military order, without any reason given. All these cases are being created against good Jews in our time, while Arab and leftist Jewish extremist destroying 3000 Jewish vines, cutting down fruit-trees are undisturbed. The building up of whole illegel neighborhoods seems to be OK, as long as it is done by Arabs. What is a lot worst however, is their digging up our Holy Temple Mount and destroying our Jewish heritage there - again, undisturbed by the Israeli "authorities". These acts appear as huge injustices against the Jewish people and therefore Jewish Jews are angry and rightly so. Perhaps it would be time for the left to realize what's going on in this country under their leadership.

And all the professional idiots go off the rails. The Rabin/Amir cult is a bunch of losers.

See, leftists didn't like what people are saying... right away they call them names, invent violence charges, demand punishment! Typical stalinist leftist totalitarian mentality. No, boos against leftist pigs are not enough!!!