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Rabbis warn Bush: Annapolis will bring destruction to US
Neta Sela
Published: 06.11.07, 19:57
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91. George better listen!
Adelia Burton ,   Chicago, ILL USA   (11.08.07)
Stupid foreign policies bring disaster. Remember 9/11!
92. are the rabbis america?
(11.08.07)
93. #76 because most of the victimes were His children, but
observer   (11.08.07)
what about the others?; G-d sacrificed them for a more noble aim; getting rid of His chosen children.
94. GLAD "SOMEBODY" IS STANDING UP!
BK ,   PHILADELPHIA- PA.   (11.08.07)
GOD GAVE "THE LAND" TO THE JEW~ WORLD WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEAR GOD'S WORD TO YOU~ IT'S WRITTEN IN "THE BOOK" SO MANY TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO PROCEED WITH ANOTHER "DIVIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" LEST GOD FROM YOU~ HIS FACE~ HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HESED P.S. KATRINA ETC. GOD HIMSELF IS SAYING ~ "LISTEN TO ME!!"
95. RABBIS
DEVORAH ,   BKLIN NY   (11.08.07)
YOU MAKE AN EXCELLENT POINT-OLMERT IS THE ONE MOST RESPONSIBLE-BUT DONT WORRY THESE RABBIS ARE NOT GIVING OLMERT AND HIS HENCHMEN ANY FREE RIDES-THEY ARE GIVING IT TO HIM HARD. AS FAR AS BUSH IS CONCERNED HES MORE THAN HAPPY TO APPLY PRESSURE ON ISRAEL TO PLEASE HIS SAUDI FRIENDS.
96. AMEN
Lori ,   Racine USA   (11.08.07)
God bless the rabbis for standing up and telling the truth!
97. #76 ask Ovadia, the Rabbi
observer   (11.08.07)
A: soldiers who did not observe Torah, G-d left them die despite their fight for the sake of G-d. So, it was easier for the G-d to let down those who were not Torah observants and were not fighting soldiers.
98. Right or wrong?
Ramallah Mahdingdong   (11.08.07)
I'm not saying the rabbis are right, and I'm not saying they're wrong. I just want to point out that when Jerry Fallwell said the same thing about Katrina, he was villified. (I think it was Fallwell -- it might have been Pat Robertson.)
99. Peace and Security, wars and rumor of wars
LNT ,   USA   (11.08.07)
Wake up! The Arabs are obvious enemies of Israel, but when "so called" friends sell you out all in the name of "Peace and Security" they are no longer friends. I am a Christian American, and I am ashamed of my president for turning his back on Israel. He's out of touch with most issues...this is just adding to the pile of things he ignores the people on. I don't know if Katrina was a warning or not, but one thing is for sure: Israel belongs to the Jewish people as a gift from God and no one has the right to take their gift away from them. If giving away land brought peace, Israel would have had it years ago. Many things going on right now are prophesy from the New Testament being fullfilled. I pray God opens the eyes of His chosen Jewish children and chosen Gentile children soon. Believing the truth is a gift in and of itself, ask for it.
100. 89#
alun ,   london uk   (11.08.07)
most of the aliya to Israel from for arguments sake let us say was 1870 was due to pogroms in Russia persecution in the soviet union and finally due unfortunately to the holocaust .If this anti semitism did not exist Israel would not exist i think that is a fact few historians would disagree with G-d could have intervened and stopped the anti semitism just like he could have stopped the holocaust .The holocaust is the most extreme form of anti semitism.I note the fact that the only positive outcome of World war 1 was the Balfour declaration the only positive outcome of WW11 was the establishment of the state of Israel and now my exercise for you is to list the positive benefits TO Israel and i believe only to Israel of the WAR ON TERROR I believe that when Pakistan is taken over by al quaeda or Iran develops nuclear weaponery the west will be forced to destroy these countries and the Israel will expand from the nile to the Euphrates and Israel will be the only winner of WW111 and the meek shall inherit the earth [the Jews] Why it had to be this way do not ask me i do not know but that i think in my humble opinion that is the plan.Some people move in mysterious ways
101. Alun , are you sane ?
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.09.07)
The Balfour declaration was a reward to Chaim Weizmann for his work , related to WWI . This was not the "outcome" of this war . Regarding the rest of your writing , hold this b..s.. for you , don't be ridiculous
102. 101#'
alun ,   london uk   (11.09.07)
outcome, reward, that is playing with words. Questioning my sanity and calling my thesis ridiculous is not a substitute for reasoned arguments, in fact it is just a verbal punch on the nose, because you have no decent arguments against my thesis good shabbos and have a nice day
103. 102 Alun
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.09.07)
what are your proofs ? only belief . I answered for WWI , can you say something against my thesis ? Have a שבת שלום
104. For Hebrew speakers re: the Holocaust/Shoa
LEE ,   NY, USA   (11.09.07)
For those who do not wish to take the easy road of riding on the Shoa to relieve themselves of their Torah obligations, here is a very interesting and informing series of downloadable lectures pertaining to all matters concerning the Shoa/Holocaust. Unfortunately, its only available in Hebrew: (for english speakers, I would advise to read and reflect upon the writings of Rebbetzin Jungreis - you can google her to find the books she's written- who lived through the horrors of the Holocaust and who has become one the forerunners in Jewish outreach). Here is the link for the Hebrew speakers: http://hidabroot.org/site/ProList.asp?id=9127&CategoryID=10&subID=9127&StrCategory=השואה
105. PRAYER TO THE GOD OF ABRAHAM,ISAAC AND JACOB IS THE ANSWER
JohnB ,   Alabama, USA   (11.09.07)
Jesus/Yeshua, He is the answer. John 3:16
106. to said london
baby ,   jerusalem   (11.09.07)
you said and i said and he said and she said but only god create .or do you think you can .. please try
107. to alun london
100 ,   jerusalem   (11.09.07)
till after the 11 w is true but after that no one know /god do not tell any one about his plan or you can gusse the future /your hope is this and that but sure my one is not the same and god will is not a hope but a result of the doing of the people // i think moses got bni israil out of egypt becouse they deserved the freedom .. and may the holocoast survivors deserved a land but i think israil by her doing do not deserve god helping or mercy // it is only an openion not a hope
108. No one likes a prophet unless he speaks peace
Chris ,   UK   (11.09.07)
God shall punish those who come against Israel. For those who mock, asking why God isn't helping Israel, you should know this: all of the bad things that have happened to Israel were supposed to happen if Israel turned its back on God -- this is in the written law, even to the point where God said he would disperse the Jews among the nations and make their land desolate. God also said, through the prophets, that in the latter days he would gather Israel once more from where they were dispersed, that he would call them all back -- which is happening even now. Jews are returning even though they don't know why. God said that there would be no more Israel and Judah, but that it would be one nation -- and this has happened for the first time in history since Israel became a nation again. The prophets were right. God spoke through the prophets that the nations would come against Israel in the latter days. The prophets told of how God would destroy those who come against Israel by fire, brimstone, hailstones, etc. It sounds foolish to modern man, but nothing is impossible with God. Those who bless Israel shall be blessed, and those who curse Israel shall be cursed: it is written! These Rabbis are not fools, but are speaking as the prophets of old times. And just as the prophets were mocked, though their predictions came to pass, so shall the prophets of today be mocked. May God bless his people Israel and grant them peace and salvation.
109. Rabbis warn Bush!
rob ,   san bruno, CA , USA   (11.09.07)
I love Israel since I was a little boy...and I know that Almighty God gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people. I am very, very concerned that if Bush and Miss Rice continue with this action of forcing the Jewish people to give up more land especially the dividing of Jerusalem will result in calamity for this country, the US. Ipray to the Lord that the President and his Secretary of State will come to their senses as soon as possible. I am perplexed with Bush's action towards Israel when he profess to be a Bible believing Christian but do the opposite of what the Scripture says.
110. right-wing, left-wing - let's be consistent.
Rami   (11.09.07)
Neta, I don't have a problem with you calling these rabbis "right-wing" AS LONG AS you're consistent and call Olmert, Livni, and the rest of the give-away specialists "left-wing". The point about the Rabbis is not what wing they're in, the point is, they are absolutely 100% correct in warning the USA of its demise.
111. LEE , NY
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.09.07)
It's of course a Rabbi who speaks , i haven't to agree , and stay on my position . Believing people can accept his teaching or words , i not
112. Bush, Bible believing? Ha!
(11.09.07)
Bush "says" he is Bible believing, but he is clueless to what it says. How can he truly believe in that which he doesn't read? He said ALL religions pray to the same God. Just because Muslims "say" that Allah is the same as God doesn't mean that is true. God and Allah do not share the same characteristics, so they are not the same. Bush says they are the same which proves that he isn't even sure what Christianity really is or he does and plays dumb to get along with everyone--which is blasphemous. If he was a Christian, he would feel compelled through the Holy Spirit to boldly speak with love the truth and not try to appease people caught up in a false religion. How loving is it to go along with someone believing a lie who will be damned for it? That is the opposite of love. Bush needs someone to explain to him what the Bible says and see if he still calls himself a Christian. It is a cop-out to say that you don't know what the Bible says. He shouldn't call himself a Christian if he isn't in complete agreement with the Bible or if he doesn't want to take the time to research what he proclaims to believe. Let's see: He is trying to convince the Jews to give up their God given land and he says that all religions pray to the same God. Someone needs to educate this man!
113. to 112
113 ,   jerusalem   (11.10.07)
specially in believe the most important is ,what you believes not the other even he is mr bush ... but in power and in war and in government ,may we seek about mr. bush openion
114. 103charles#
alun ,   london uk   (11.10.07)
if WW1 would not have occurred the British army would not have liberated palestine from the Turks and therefore the British would not have been in a position to reward the Zionists with the Balfour declaration thus i think my thesis that G-d controls history for the long term benefit of the jews and the world to bring forth the ultimate goal of universal peace is correct of course this is not scientific proof but take a look at Michael Karpin's book the BOMB IN THE BASEMENT Ben Gurion went to Belsen and was determined that Israel should develop the nuclear bomb and even the Lavon affair when Israeli spies were unfortunately hung this led to the removal of the Lavon government which did not want to develop the bomb and Ben Gurion came back and restarted the nuclear program ECCLESIATES CHAP 2 SORRY I CAN NOT REMEMBER THE ACTUAL VERSE states that the wisdom from stupidity is like the light from the darkness, the chabad rabbis explain the Zohar comments here stating that you get more light out of darkness than you get from light itself meaning that from negative and painful events you get more good than from good itself or in ppractical terms ten kilo of plutonium which is very dark matter produces more light than the biggest power station. That is Israel and its nuclear program was the result of the holocaust when Israel extends from the nile to the Euphrates and Islam and christianity are destroyed will prove my thesis, up to that time you are quite correct it is unproven and a belief but it is not a blind belief but a belief based on historical facts which could be coincidental or could be evidence of G-ds control Shavua Tov
115. 103#charles your thesis
alun ,   london uk   (11.10.07)
Your thesis is, Can i have the liberty of putting it this way that life is so f.....ing s....t that how could a loving G-d exist?I unfortunately am under the same misapprehension as you that the purpose of life is to have as much fun as possible and then we die. Have you ever considered that maybe in reality you are on a special forces training program and the culmination of the selection process is a torture program to see if you are tough enough? When the going gets tough the tough get going Maybe you are not here to have fun but to perfect the world by getting rid of all the religous maniacs and false ideologies and all the nasty meglamaniacs ?SHAVUA TOV
116. If war happens, I say this!
K ,   Sweden   (11.11.07)
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, let (him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judea flee to the mountains (Mar 13:14) My God bless Israel people and give them salvation!
117. Alun
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.11.07)
I agree that we have to get rid of the religious maniacs . Are'nt you one of them ? I don't believe , so for me no god's influence . There are powers who wanted to extend their influence , the British wanted more control of the middle east , that made them attack here . Israel was created with the help of the USSR [ weapons ], who were also trying to have influence here , but they were wrong , Israel did'nt obey . Nothing to do with god , predictions or anything else , only politics And Israel from Euphrate to the Nile ? are you knowing what you are talking about ? שבוע טוב
118. Charles 117#
alun ,   london uk   (11.11.07)
It is logically impossible to prove a negative so it is logically impossible to prove that g-d does not exist as you keep on saying youself you do not believe.Fine that is your right .As from the Nile to the Euphrates all Islamic states are either dictatorships who are a threat either to their neigbours or a threat to their own populations or Islamic democracies such as Gaza and Iran which threaten their neighbours Take for example Pakistan which looks like to me that it is going to be taken over by Al Quaeda either through elections or by force as Hamas took over Gaza .Would the US tolerate a nuclear armed Pakistan run by AL QUAEDA Thus all thes countries are an anachronism and obsolete and past their sell by date and i see them being as on the eve of destruction and as for being a religous maniac i admit it.So i think we can agree to disagree until Israel expands from the Nile to the Euphrates when i think you will have to agree with me. Have a peaceful and safe week
119. Let the rabbis appeal from the Temple Mount
David Ben-Ariel ,   Toledo, USA   (11.12.07)
Much of what the rabbis have written is true, but let them show their sincerity by appealing from the Temple Mount. If they don't care enough about the Temple Mount, witness Israel's woeful neglect of Judaism's alleged most holy site, then why should they expect professing Christian Bush to care about Israel?
120. Burdensome Stone
lil sis in Jesus ,   smalltown, america   (11.12.07)
Yet again they try to lift it only to hurt themselves. I was watching Stephen Spielberg miniseries Into the West 2 years ago this one scene played in my head wouldn't go away a young girl gets her leg run over by a wheel it gets gangreen with maggots crawling inside they try to saw it off with rustic saw she died anyway, next morning I saw that image in my head horrible I heard holy spirit say America is like that young girl eat up with sin and rebellion unless I cut her apart she won't live. This sin in seperating Israel is a big one that will be a troublesome stone to us.
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