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Erekat: 'Difficult' meeting, no joint document yet
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Published: 12.11.07, 21:38
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1. "snag" is a big understatement, it means the end of talks!
redmiike ,   tel aviv and london   (11.12.07)
2. antisemites
alvaro ,   jerusalem   (11.12.07)
israel is a jewish country, you should learn to respect other people religious. take it like this, or keep living in the shitty situation you live today my dear palestinians.
3. the roadmap to driving the jewish state into the sea
zionist forever   (11.12.07)
So whats this whole so called peace process all about if the palestians refuse to recognise Israel as a jewish state I thought that was supposed to be a condition of creating any kind of terrorist entity that they recognise Israels right to exist as a jewish state? Now Erikat the senior negotiator on the terrorists side is going on record saying we will not we will not accept Israel as a jewish state. How can you recognise a country has a right to exist and not recognise what it describes itself as? Would he recognise Israel if it said it was a Martian state? This isnt about making peace its about a tempory hudna ( a ceacefire ) which of course the terrorists are entitled to break anytime they wish. when Abbas goes and make a speach in the Knesset saying he wants peace with the jewish state. The so called roadmap spesificly states that palestians will have a right of return to the palestian state not Israel. This roadmap is nothing more than a new name for oslo, same ideas, will fail the same way and lead to the same policies of terror and arabs still refusing to recognise Israel as a jewish state. Even after comments like this we have Olmert releasing hundreds more terrorists has this man no shame?
4. nothing to do with antisemitism
(11.12.07)
palestinian negotiators do not want to recognize israel as a jewish state because then, they won't have their desired destruction of israel's demographic character acheived. if palestinians do not recognize israel as a jewish state from the beginning that means that they can progress with their absurd right of return, meaning all palestinians will flow into israel proper even after the palestinian state will be created. the pals negotiators know that this will be a suicide for israel which will become majority arab in few years because of arab profligate birth rate compared to that of jews. after this is acheived, then the majority can decide on the government, on policies and basically on everything internally. the palestinians once said that the arab womb will be the destroyer of israel. the only solution is this....once the pa;estinian state is a reality, all arabs including the so caqlled refugees will be only allowed to enter the country they dreamed of for so long, none on israeli property and land. let them live with their brothers in the future palestinian state. wording on agreements is crucial for both arabs and israelis. semantics for arabs means they can twist any "written agreement" to their advantage. let the world and jews in israel say no! we should be recognized as a JEWISH STATE! not only israel. period! otherwise, no go! this only shows you the palestinian intent. why so difficult to recognize us as a jewish state? why? if they have their own country side by side with ours, why does it really matter what they call us israeli or jewish state. it matters a lot to them because through this semantic, they intend to institute the law of return of all refugees to flood israel with a majority arab population in the future. by that time not only that israel wouldn't be a majority israeli state, it won't even be jewish any more.
5. ok, palestinians
(11.12.07)
what would you like your state to be called? PALESTINE! what is the ideology and religion of your state? ISLAM! who can only live in your state? MUSLIM ARABS! how is that different than what the jews want? no difference. if your want to be known as a palestinian muslim state where religion is islamic and rule is arab, then israel is a jewish state populated by jewish israelis only! your state will be muslim and ours jewish. no problem......unless you really really really want to take the jews to the cleaners and make sure you all flood our JEWISH COUNTRY with muslim terrorists.
6. Let us be fair.wait till SaudiArabia becomes a secular state
KMR ,   Middle East   (11.12.07)
7. Statement Must Include Israel Respect the Right of Return
Mr. Knowitall ,   Frostbite Falls, MN   (11.12.07)
The simple solution is to have, in return for Palestinian acceptance of Israel as a Jewish state, a statement by Israel in which Israel accepts the Palestinian right to exist, its own responsibility for ethnically cleansing the Palestinians from their eternal homeland and also guarantees the right of return to those wishing to return who were forcibly prevented from returning to their homes by Israel. Accepting Israel as a Jewish state should not infringe upon the right of return of those who were ethnically cleansed by Israel, nor does the Palestinian Authority have the authority to negotiate away the rights of the many thousands of Palestinians living in Diaspora who have not elected Abbas to be their leader or to negotiate on their behalf. The issue of right of return for those whom Abbas is not their elected representative should be addressed in the International Court of Justice at The Hague where the amount of reparations and other damages incurred by those denied their right for 40 years can be determined easily thanks to the Precedents already set by Jews seeking repartitions for German crimes, so the courts should take on those cases.
8. STOP THE B.S. !
AVROHOM BILGREI ,   ZION   (11.12.07)
THE FIRST QUESTION IS: HAS THE SECTION OF THE P.L.O. CHARTER CALLING FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL BEEN REMOVED ? UNTIL THAT'S ANSWERED EVERYTHING ELSE IS MOOT ,INCLUDING THIS ENTIRE ARTICLE !
9. "Palestinians won't accept..."
Aharon   (11.13.07)
I don't understand this. Why are the Palestinians the ones setting the demands? In every other war, the victor has been the one that sets the terms for cessation of hostilities: These Palestinians are behaving as though they are the dominant force in the region.
10. My Only Question Is:
MK ,   Philadelphia USA   (11.13.07)
Whenever I hear talk of "negotiations" with the Palestinians, I am befuddled by the notion, since the Palestinians have nothing to negotiate with. Enough of this idiocy, already. Someone needs to stand up and say that the Palestinians were on the losing side of many wars and deserve NOTHING. They have no right to a state and no right to anything. That is a fact.
11. WOW-----ADMIT IT ALREADY!!
Brooke   (11.13.07)
The horrific social experiment with the Jordanians in Judea and Samaria and the Egyptians that Egypt refused in Gaza in 1967 has been an incredibly deadly, stupid, illegal and corrupt experiment gone bad. "Palis" prove over and over, every second of every day in their schools, mosques, news and music that they are not interested in peace with Israel just in tearing them to pieces and grabbing all of Israel piece by piece. ENOUGH!! STOP!! Where is the brave men, women, students to rise up and demand that the oslo accords are rendered null and void because "palis" have never successfully implemeted any of their responsibilities. Therefore there was no enforceable contract---ever!! For people to reach a successful agreement, it is unbelievable that the starting place is not a recognition of their right to exist. That tells you everything you need to know about your "peace partner"!!. Anybody who would continue to negotiate with a person/people who would not give you this most basic respect and acknowledgement will never upheld or keep their word---on anything!!. As proven endlessly and with bloodshed for 15 years. Israel you have the strength, its all your country divinely sanctioned and the moral imperative here. Protect your citizens and end this diabolical deadly BS peace plan to nowhere but the grave. Who do you think you are all fooling.??? All these politicians involved are disgusting and worthy of scorn and at the very least ---jail time. Stop recycling the same old politicians pretending to have a new agenda. What is the punishment for treason in Israel???? Try exercising it and see what happens to any new future "peace" plans!!!
12. #7
(11.13.07)
mr. frostbrain, the same court in hague you are refering to should also take on the case of over 1,000,000 jewish people who have lived for cenruties in most arab lands and were tortured, killed, stollen from, lived dhimi status in fear and povery throughout the centuries, and finally kicked out of all arab nations after 1948, after riots resulting in their death, ruination, pogroms, inticement, hangings, imprisonment, stealing their property and confiscating their life long earnings and businesses by the arab governments and then kicking them out to nowhere. these are the sephardic jews that were kicked out of arab lands after living in very dangerous and murderous conditions there for centuries.....please bring that case to the hague because not a single one of these miserable poor jews kicked out of arab lands were ever allowed to come back and appropritae the lives and propertis, monies, businesses, art and treasures these arabs regimes stole from them after kicking them out to nowhere. thanks god for israel absorbingb them, granting them citizenship and making them part of the jewish israeli state. where are their properties? not a single arab country has ever given them one single penny back. how is that for a court case in the hague????????????
13. compromise
rami   (11.13.07)
why can't we say israel is a state with a jewish majority instead of a jewish state?? unless u want it purely jewish like hitler wanted germany pure Arian??
14. to 11
ramez   (11.13.07)
cry me a river...u're conveniently forgeting that by all objective accounts, pals life in Westbank got worse after Oslo, setttlements accelerated and agreements to withdraw haulted even before 2nd intofada broke out. u represent SOME jewish strain that will never accept responsibility 4 anything, abnocious...why do u think manny of the lawyer in states are jewish? and many of the most rediculous frivilous suits are filed by old jewish ladis...why?
15. #10 My Only Question Is
Marc ,   Philadelphia, USA   (11.13.07)
Whenever I hear talk of "negotiations" with the Palestinians, I am befuddled by the notion, since the Palestinians have nothing to negotiate with. You stated: "Enough of this idiocy, already. Someone needs to stand up and say that the Palestinians were on the losing side of many wars and deserve NOTHING. They have no right to a state and no right to anything. That is a fact." Sounds great but what are your plans for the millions of Palestinians living in the WB and Gaza? Maintain the status quo? The refugees on Israel's borders? Israel has to decide if it wants the land and the people or neither...
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