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'How can a dying man pose a security threat?'
Roi Mandel
Published: 12.11.07, 21:28
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31. No kidding, Mr. KnowItAll #16?
Anna ,   Montreal, Canada   (11.13.07)
Somehow your so called FACT doesn’t look truthful. As a matter of fact anyone can get medical help for money in any country but for free you can get only in Israel by pressing the buttons like Human Rights and Compassion.
32. Tell Hamas
Talula ,   Israel   (11.13.07)
It's sad, it's very sad. However, if he is dying then he should die in Gaza and not Israel. I think it's pretty clear that there isn't anything that can be done for him, or even for an Israeli in the same condition. Naál’s government (Hamas) refuses to accept Israel’s right to exist, however, we DO exist for medical care, electricity supplies, water supplies and endless rocket attacks. I know collective punishment is against International Law etc blah blah blah, but this is not a collective punishment and cannot be regarded as such. Na'al’s fate lies purely with Hamas and NOT with the Shin Bet. Hamas are a bunch of Morons, utterly brainless losers for wanting to build 'the new Hollywood' in Gaza, when men like Na'al are in desperate need of proper medical attention, and for sure, he isn’t the only one. Sorry, but it's just NOT our problem.
33. it should be put this way
(11.13.07)
it's not the israelis that are collectively punishing the pal population in gaza. it is hamas who collectively punished its own citizens and created the abysmal situation they find themselves in today. this poor man, one of their victims, is collectively part of the palestin ian population that has suffered, continues to suffer and will do so forever because not one leader, not a single one has an iq more that 20. in other words....retarded!
34. To Gaza City, #19
Anna ,   Montreal, Canada   (11.13.07)
Blame Hamas and not Israel. How can you even complain about anything after today’s fight it Gaza? You, Arabs from Gaza look completely ridiculous: you got Gaza for free and can’t decide who will rule it. The whole world is disgust by your inhumane treatment of your own people. You look like an army of mentally unstable creatures. Hamas wants complete destruction of Israel and complains about Israeli’s refusal to treat Gaza’s patients. Hamas brings tones of arms and explosives through the tunnels underneath the Israeli- Egyptian boarder, and can’t take care of the sick patients? Where is the logic? Do you have one?
35. #5 Hakeem
Talula ,   Israel   (11.13.07)
Why should we care? Really? why should we take all your sick and dying people into our hospitals? Regardless of whether they pose a security risk or not. You have your own Hamas government to blame here, it's THEIR problem NOT OURS. They want to spend 200 MILLION dollars on creating a new 'media center' - and then expect us to take all your sick and dying in for treatment. SORRY DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT! Yeah! the grass is greener on the other side, but that's life, you got what you voted for, so suck it up!!
36. Question to PHR
gabriela ben ari ,   jerusalem   (11.13.07)
Why didn't you demand / lobby for Gilad 's release as a token of appreciation ???? Answer: coz Jewish lives aren't worth a S--t in your eyes
37. Reply to #23 "Lynne in Texas"
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (11.13.07)
1. Anybody who begins a post in one of these forums with the words "I am Jewish" probably ISN'T. 2. Being compassionate does not mean being STUPID. Not every sob story is authentic. 3. This guy has cancer of the balls. He is never going to get laid in this life. He wants his virgins NOW.
38. One more thing about "compassion"
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (11.13.07)
The time to show compassion to one's enemies is when they are utterly defeated and have surrendered. Then they can be coddled and cuddled all you want. But while they are actively engaged in a war of extermination, no freaking way. Sorry, but patching up your enemy so that he can continue his war against you is not "compassion" but cruelty to your own people. But Lynne, you are not Jewish anyway.
39. The Bravery of the Healthy
Michael ,   Jerusalem   (11.13.07)
This is a dying creature. If you ran over a dog and it was still alive would you use polemics, rhetoric and your prejudices to justify not helping it of at least giving it consolance while it died? If you were dying would you not do what you could to prevent it? You do not know that this man partook of any terrorist activity nor that he even voted for Hamas. Futhermore, the point is that Israel is a humane and compassionate society that does not act like it's enemies. G-d forbid anyone who has posted here should finds themselves trapped in a cesspool like Gaza, dying in a squalid cinderblock room in order to see for themselves how lonely and desperate a condition they find themselves in. I am disgusted by the knee-jerk reactionaries here. As for German and Japanese POW's, yes, they were given medical treatment during and after the war years. The Geneva Convention states they must, so these hard-assed opinions are contrary to acceptable humane considerations.
40. Sick
Ruth ,   settlement   (11.13.07)
This is a very sad story. I think that we should demand Gilad Shalit in exchange for cases like this. In his recorded message, he said that he is sick too and needs medical care. Also, if the PLO and Hamas would spend money on medical care and modern hospitals for their people instead of missiles to kill Israelis, these sick people could be treated by their own. On the one hand they want to kill us, on the other hand they need our doctors!
41. To 20 and others we should care!
Margaret   (11.13.07)
I empathize with the Israeli people's fears of suicide bombers and terrorist attacks. And because of this I understand why you must be so careful about who you let enter your country. But how can a person who is so sick and weak they can't even stand a threat? To me,this whole tragic,unfortunate incident is just another in a longline of the devastating ripple effects of terror and what it does to a society. I can only hope that compassion will win over fear and consideration will be given to this young man and his family.
42. 23 - I'm Jewish?
Talula ,   Israel   (11.13.07)
I don't think you are. And if you are, you're stupid. We do not have to take cancer patients from anywhere. And before you start preaching, if you don't have insurance in the USA you can die on the street before anyone will give you medical help. So, take your placard and go and demonstrate outside your nearest hospital and leave the problems in the Middle East to the real Jews.
43. Tax money
Amir ,   Duesseldorf   (11.13.07)
The israeli hospitals don't help for free, the PA get's regulary charged for these healthcare services by the occupier although it's the obligation of the occupier to grant the welfare of the occupied civilians. So don't talk idiotically that israeli tax money is spent for palestinians. That's simply not true. You israeli thiefs even would charge the palestinians for the air they're breathing on their own soil! Shame on you! The day will come when everything relapse on you!
44. Stupid Talula - 42
Amir ,   Duesseldorf, Germany   (11.13.07)
The israeli hospitals don't help for free, the PA get's regulary charged for these healthcare services by the occupier although it's the obligation of the occupier to grant the welfare of the occupied civilians. So don't talk idiotically that israeli tax money is spent for palestinians. That's simply not true. You israeli thiefs even would charge the palestinians for the air they're breathing on their own soil! Shame on you! The day will come when everything relapse on you! Go back where you came from so that I could return to my homeland, you east-european settlers and thiefs.
45. 44 is even more stupid
Talula ,   Israel   (11.13.07)
"Go back where you came from so that I could return to my homeland, you east-european settlers and thiefs". SAYS AMIR FROM GERMANY - HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! Move there for a better life did you? You're pathetic.
46. PHONY !!
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (11.13.07)
Ynet is publishing this kind of crap to show off their phony moral humanistic nonexcistent values. While their own citizens are under daily fire and even their much supported olmert and friends declared Gaza a enemy entity,Ynet has to show their arrogant superior attitude. No change is missed to selfloathe and to demean us in front of the world. This a clear example of how twisted Ynet's reporting is, maybey they should try to show some compassion to the people living here. We are tyred of Ynet's Yafut nefesh nonsense and are still waiting for some real reporting,based on truth and reality.
47. Thief Talula #45
Amir ,   Duesseldorf, germany   (11.13.07)
You didn't loose a word to the fact which I mentioned that you stupid don't pay any dime for the health service the palestinians receive? So I suggest that your statement that israeli tax money is spent was a unscrupulous lie. And you thought to come through with it. The PA pays millions to your hospitals for treating of palestinian patients. And they are getting good money for this job. Or why do you think they are backing the palestinians request? Open your eyes! Stupid you, it's happening in front of you and you even don't have a clue what happens around you. Misinformed thing! Beside, I'm here in german exile while you probably live in the house my father left behind after been ethnically cleansed by you thefts. We'll stay in exile until you thefts leave our homeland. Until then we'll pray and hope next year in Al Quds inshallah! Time is not working on your behalf...you better behave in our region. Otherwise maybe your rassist and unhuman behaviour will relapse on your rassist heads.
48. Palestinians calling for boycott
israeli ,   israel   (11.13.07)
AN OPEN LETTER TO THE PALESTINIAN AND INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY REGARDING PALESTINIAN-ISRAELI COOPERATION IN HEALTH by Health Sector Signatories, Occupied Palestine | Palestinian Committee for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel | May 2005 http://www.monabaker.com/pMachine/more.php?id=2903_0_1_0_M "Palestinian Medical and Health Institutions Call for Imposing Measures against the Israel Medical Association (IMA) Whereas the IMA's medical ethics record on torture has been well documented, and the institution has never denounced or seriously confronted the Israeli government on its shameless use of torture; http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6737.shtml" Does anyone see the irony here? Palestinians call our doctors "well documented torturers" and still want to send their patients for treatment into Israel? How can they be sure that this poor fellow will not be tortured and killed by our doctors and medical staff? Please, abide by your boycott, and be thorough about it: http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=3200
49. Amir, Germany
israeli ,   israel   (11.13.07)
Take a minute to wipe the froth from your lips, Amir, and consider this: you don't even have a name for Jersualem except al-Quds, which is translated and borrowed from (Yir-)Ha-Kodesh, The Holy (City), mentioned in our psalms, prayers and blessings, long before your prophet walked this earth.
50. Na'al's last days
Farouk ,   Jerusalem   (11.13.07)
May the remaining days of your life be peaceful, painless and full of love. May god be merciful on you and curse the Palestinians and Israelis who cursed you to this end without mercy and compassion. As for some of the talkbacks, I do not wish that (as some did) you or loved ones suffer the same fate to start to understand but I wish god may light something in your heart so you will think about this time and time again before you react like animals. My apologies to the animals off course.
51. 47 Blah blah blah!!!
Talula ,   Israel   (11.13.07)
Why don't the PA give the supposed 'millions' to the hospitals in Gaza? Why to Israel? I'll tell you why. Because there are no decent doctors in Gaza, there is no decent anything in Gaza and that is not our fault. You don't even have your own water and power supplies. Again, NOT OUR FAULT. Yasser Arafat had BILLIONS of dollars in aide. He chose to steal it all from the Palestinian people and put it in a Swiss Bank account. The living evidence is his wife and their daughter’s very expensive lifestyle. You can blame Israel for all the crap that happens to the Palestinians, because it’s easier to do that than to accept the fact that you are all hopeless with no future with a bunch of terrorist thugs for a government. REALITY BITES! Exile? You could always go back and live in Gaza or the West Bank if you wanted it that much. Fact is, you have a better life there. So don't sit and preach to me about and morals. And just to ease your warped mind, I don't live in your house. I prefer modern buildings.
52.  carcinogenic tumor in his testicles
Ben ,   Gush Etzion   (11.13.07)
may G-d bless all terrorists and those who send and support them with this malady (for the female terrorists may it be in their ovaries)
53. to Amir, #43
Anna ,   Montreal, Canada   (11.13.07)
What are you talking about? The article is about the gravely ill Palestinians from Gaza and not from the West Bank. Today is 2007 and your Gaza is completely free of Israeli occupiers. The tongue of snake is trying to manipulate the facts in big and small. It’s too bad for Düsseldorf. Amir even can’t spell the name of the city correctly where he lives.
54. Q: How can a dying man pose a security threat?
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Samaria   (11.13.07)
Q: How can a dying man pose a security threat? A: By proxy. By convincing people like Prof Eyal Pfenig of Physicians for Human Rights and the "High" "Court" that he should be cured in Israel as if we didn't disangaged from Gaza two years ago. Providing health care is a territorial and national service and one doesn't understand why Physicians for Human Rights and high court judges think it is not.
55. Anna the Brain #53
Amir ,   Duesseldorf, Germany   (11.13.07)
"Today is 2007 and your Gaza is completely free of Israeli occupiers." 1. I'll explain it to you, Anna the Brain. Completely sealing off an entity, resp. Gaza, from land, air and sea means still occupation. Until not the complete sovereignity is given to the Palestinians, the occupation is still ongoing. 2. The PA also pays for the healthcare services provided by israeli hospitals to Gazans, as it is the obligation of the PA. The money they receive belongs to all palestinians not only their West Bank brethren. "It’s too bad for Düsseldorf. Amir even can’t spell the name of the city correctly where he lives." Also this I'll explain to you, Anna the biggest thinker of our century. The german "Ü" is not supported by the headline script "y-net-news" uses. Then german "Ü" is spelled by "UE" if it's not available, stupid!
56. How can a dying man pose a security threat?
,     (11.13.07)
By giving Hamas the opportunity to hide explosives in the ambulance carrying him, by having a Hamas (or even Fatah) terrorist accompany him (instead of a relative). How do we know he has cancer? What if he has AIDS ans tries to pass it on to the medical staff attending him (by biting them, etc?) I mean killing or harming JOOOS is considered a great victory for these people, so I wouldn't be surprised. Physicians in Gaza have been know to fabricate medical letters for two suicide bomber wanabees, one of whom was pregnant. Just because one is terminally ill does not mean that one has to seek medical attention in Israel.
57. ONLY in Israel
Hakeem ,   Gaza   (11.13.07)
TO leave Gaza u need PERMIT from Israel becuase the control all the crossing from and to gaza. Israel dedact the cost of treatment from the palestinian tax it collect for the PA (IMPORT TAX).
58. Only in Israel, Hakeem
israeli ,   israel   (11.13.07)
Only in Israel are those who want to see us wiped from the face of the earth receiving medicl treatment. And they even want it for free. How's that for hutzpah?
59. Let me tell u #5
God   (11.19.07)
What state? Jewish State,Israel the one that all of you want to wipe out! We dont need to provide to our enemies that are in war with us daily,any help! go yo your brothers in hell
60. #23....come to live here....then we shall talk
God   (11.19.07)
Sitting in Texas....and talking about Poor pa;lestinians dogs? let me show u compassion http://www.terrorismawareness.org/know-about-jihad/ http://www.whatthewestneedstoknow.com/view_trailer.asp http://www.terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-kampf/ "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
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